Draft Day ***NFL Draft Rounds 4-7***

Sydla

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I'm not wrong on anything. I don't make silly claims about players I've never seen play. I don't sit here and watch Josh Ball tape and I'm not gonna lie and say that I have. You guys keep talking about reaches...based on what? Who's board? They are reaching because you had Josh Ball low on your board?

I never said Ball was a reach. I have an issue bringing in a guy who smacked a girl in the face.
 

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wait so he has significant off the field issues (woman related) and we reached heavily for him. Wright and Ball might be the worst picks of our draft.

Unproven accusations that now-a-days are "Believe All Women" Universities believe without proof - like with the Ezekiel Elliott accusations. Not saying it didn't happen, but I want proof, more than accusations. The woman NEVER filed a police report. Instead she sued for a restraining order, which is all-too-easy to get these days.

Also, even if true, a mistake at age 19 shouldn't derail a man's career for life. There has never been a corroborating account, or any subsequently reported incident. True abusers are always repeat offenders because it is indicative of their nature. The fact that Ball hasn't had any subsequent accusations indicates that it is likely that 1) the accusations were false or exaggerated, or 2) it was an isolated event, and not indicative of the person's character.

Ball could have been a 2nd - 3rd round pick without the allegations on his record. I'll give the guy a chance.

Note: Ball ranked 104th on NFL big board.
 

Sydla

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He slapped his GF in the face one time back in 2017.

This is not Ray Rice 2.0

You got issues.

I don't care if he was as bad as Rice. What he did was appalling. Geezus, dude.
 

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Ticket said he was suspended after that incident. He transferred to a JUCO school. FSU then said he was eligible to return then went to Marshall instead.

yes he lost his spot on the team and went to community college before being readmitted to florida state which he did not go back to.

whats wrong with what I said? he lost his spot because he hit his girlfriend. He is a huge human being and he hit his gf.
 

Sydla

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Unproven accusations that now-a-days are "Believe All Women" Universities believe without proof - like with the Ezekiel Elliott accusations. Not saying it didn't happen, but I want proof, more than accusations. The woman NEVER filed a police report. Instead she sued for a restraining order, which is all-too-easy to get these days.

Also, even if true, a mistake at age 19 shouldn't derail a man's career for life. There has never been a corroborating account, or any subsequently reported incident. True abusers are always repeat offenders because it is indicative of their nature. The fact that Ball hasn't had any subsequent accusations indicates that it is likely that 1) the accusations were false or exaggerated, or 2) it was an isolated event, and not indicative of the person's character.

Ball could have been a 2nd - 3rd round pick without the allegations on his record. I'll give the guy a chance.

It wasn't unproven apparently.

Two, I have no issue with him getting a chance somewhere. Just not on my team. I have a daughter and the thought of a football player smacking her in the face in college makes my blood boil.
 

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Idk but I wonder if they would trade Abram
Abram is a headcase. Happy we traded for Coop instead of taking him. Gets injured every game cause he plays football like a crash test dummy. It’s pretty selfish IMO, all he wants to do is crack a guy with no regards to his assignments or anything.
 

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You got issues.

I don't care if he was as bad as Rice. What he did was appalling. Geezus, dude.

Yeah it was bad im not making excuses for it so what? It was 4 years ago. Guy was 18 years old back than.

0 Incidents since than.

Good Pick. Move on.
 

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You got issues.

I don't care if he was as bad as Rice. What he did was appalling. Geezus, dude.
I agree. It’s terrible, but don’t act like a big mistake by a 19 year old makes him a serial killer. One stupid mistake shouldn’t sink anyone for life. We’re drafting football players not marriage counselors.
 
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