Micah Parson is a combination of Ray Lewis & Von Miller?

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Not a fan of comparing guys to all time greats
That’s not likely no matter how good he is
He’s the best traditional LB prospect we’ve had in a very long time
 

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This guy is starting to get overhyped. People on this board has said Parsons is like Lawrence Taylor and then it DeMarcus Ware now Ray Lewis and Von Miller....... y'all setting this guy up to fail and big time. He isn't any of those players, just let him be Micah Parsons. If that turns out to be Hall of Fame guy then great. If that turns out to be average guy I'm going to be disappointed cause I was told he was LT, Ware, Ray Lewis and Von Miller
 

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From what I’ve researched, IIRC, Parsons has allowed zero TDs in coverage in his career. I could be wrong on that. There isn’t a big sample size, but when he has covered he hasn’t been awful.

We have Cox now anyway who has incredible instincts in coverage. He can easily cover the slot and TEs. A combo of those two could turn out to be a killer duo.
 

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From what I’ve researched, IIRC, Parsons has allowed zero TDs in coverage in his career. I could be wrong on that. There isn’t a big sample size, but when he has covered he hasn’t been awful.

We have Cox now anyway who has incredible instincts in coverage. He can easily cover the slot and TEs. A combo of those two could turn out to be a killer duo.


Whether people want to admit it or not. Parsons is extremely raw.. He’s just really good at, like he said in his presser, see ball get ball.
 

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I would love for those comparisons to hold true, but I'm pumping my brakes on getting too hyped.
 

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Whether people want to admit it or not. Parsons is extremely raw.. He’s just really good at, like he said in his presser, see ball get ball.
Yup....a V 2.0 of jaylon....but starting out healthy
 
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Yup....a V 2.0 of jaylon....but starting out healthy

Yeah.. I want to be clear.. The guy is a super talent.. As talented as it gets.

But people acting like he’s the best defender in the draft ? Puh lease. It’s all a projection at this point at a position that’s not worth taking risks on anyways.

I don’t even think he’s the best linebacker in this class. Most talented? Sure..

If I’m taking a risk on a Super talent at linebacker I’d prefer them to have the skill that the guy from Clemson who went to Arizona had last year..
 

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I’m not a fan of the pick until he proves he can cover. If he can’t cover than it’s a wasted pick IMO.

This is just Lavar Arringtons take.
Catch... you keep bringing this up. Like a ton of your posts, but for the life of me I do not understand why you believe a 4.4 guy that has fluid hips and has proven athletic ability will be unable handle coverage from time to time.

Do I isolate him on guys like Tyreek Hill? Of course not. Could he hang with Kelce? I think he can. He also has a sense and sees plays well. Sniffs out screens and misdirection.

I bet by game 8 you will be a big fan.
His hip fluidity and lateral change of direction are actually two of his weaknesses. He's explosive and quick downhill, but his COD leaves something to be desired. He also has very little experience dropping back. As a former DE, this means he probably lacks real instincts or feel for the passing game. If the Cowboys ask him to cover, not only are they negating his strengths, but they're not going to see much better production than Jaylon. At least not for the near future.

Lots of crazy good athletes can't cover for squat. Taylor Mays comes to mind right off the bat.

Obviously in the modern era, off-ball LBs must be good in coverage.

The reason that coverage is a question mark, is because he was used to attack forward and had limited opportunities in coverage.

If he has any problems in coverage, it's not going to be due to lack of athletic ability. His type of speed greatly increases the margin for error in coverage.
- If he has any coverage issues it will be due to the mental side of it, not a lack of physical ability.

LBs don't play the same type of coverage as CBs or even Safeties. CBs play on a island where they have to mirror WRs. LBs play in a crowded area and most often play zone. If they play man, it is normally just man in a short area.

In the Dan Quinn type defense, LBs generally play zone even when CBs play man. KJ Wright has been decent in coverage and there is nothing physically that Wright can do better than Parsons.

Von Miller played LB in a 4-3 for his first 4 years (Denver switched to 3-4 when Wade was hired as DC). Nobody really cared if VM was elite in coverage...
 

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According to Lavar Arrington he is. I thought some of you would enjoy this.

Fast forward to 5:30 into the video.



So he will surpass Lawrence Taylor as the greatest defensive player in NFL history?
 

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It wasn't just Lavar Arrington saying this but James Laurinaitis, former Ohio State University All-American linebacker.
Again, I'm concerned about the character and the Cowboys culture, but if those things prove a non-factor, I'm excited by this pick.
We've needed/need an impact player on defense. I'm hoping Parsons is that player. I'm not going to compare him with Ray Lewis, Von Miller or Mike Singletary. But all I know is that those linebackers played a major role in their teams winning the Super Bowl.
Hopefully, lightning will strike a fourth time.
 
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Yeah.. I want to be clear.. The guy is a super talent.. As talented as it gets.

But people acting like he’s the best defender in the draft ? Puh lease. It’s all a projection at this point at a position that’s not worth taking risks on anyways.

I don’t even think he’s the best linebacker in this class. Most talented? Sure..

If I’m taking a risk on a Super talent at linebacker I’d prefer them to have the skill that the guy from Clemson who went to Arizona had last year..

That guy was Isaiah Simmons. There where big question marks on him with regards to actually playing LB.

Simmons: Great in coverage for LB but didn't have LB type responsibilities vs the run in college.

Parsons: Great vs the run and pass rushing but limited opportunities in coverage.

Obviously the modern NFL is a passing league, but we saw first hand last season what happens if a defense can't stop the run.
- We also saw it in the 2018 season playoff game vs the Rams.
 

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It wasn't just Lavar Arrington saying this but James Laurinaitis, former Ohio State University All-American linebacker.
Again, I'm concerned about the character and the Cowboys culture, but if those teams prove a non-factor, I'm excited by this pick.
We've needed/need an impact player on defense. I'm hoping Parsons is that player. I'm not going to compare him with Ray Lewis, Von Miller or Mike Singletary. But all I know is that those linebackers played a major role in their teams winning the Super Bowl.
Hopefully, lightning will strike a fourth time.


I’m over the RKG culture.

Just thug it up.. Dak is the face of the franchise anyways and he can give the shiny company line that people identify the Cowboys as.

The rest of the team just needs to be good at football. We love our 90s Cowboys and at the time I’d say they weren’t RKG types.
 

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I’m over the RKG culture.

Just thug it up.. Dak is the face of the franchise anyways and he can give the shiny company line that people identify the Cowboys as.

The rest of the team just needs to be good at football. We love our 90s Cowboys and at the time I’d say they weren’t RKG types.


I agree 100% with this.
 

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A 4.3 LB with extreme ball recognition, get oof blocks
He will be in zone 98% of the time on coverage. If people are expecting him to turn and run with three hill, that is misusing his position.

Coverage will be fine. I'm still worried how he doesn't get triple teamed as OL cakewalk to the 2nd level
 

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That guy was Isaiah Simmons. There where big question marks on him with regards to actually playing LB.

Simmons: Great in coverage for LB but didn't have LB type responsibilities vs the run in college.

Parsons: Great vs the run and pass rushing but limited opportunities in coverage.

Obviously the modern NFL is a passing league, but we saw first hand last season what happens if a defense can't stop the run.
- We also saw it in the 2018 season playoff game vs the Rams.


I don’t think stopping the run is a talent issue.. 75% effort and 25% scheme. Guys at this level should be good run defenders by default.

If we get through the gauntlet of QBs it takes to win a championship then I will celebrate every time they turn around and hand the ball off.
 

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I am really happy to hear of his multiple positions he's played , proven versatility ,,, fantastic pick,JERRY:thumbup:
 
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