Eric Edholm Yahoo sports draft grades

Typhus · May 3, 2021

He went to starbucks afterwards and worked on his next brilliant tweet.

Typhus · May 3, 2021

baltcowboy said:
I am looking at 3 guys that will be the key to this draft, Parsons, Joseph, and Ball. If these guys hit this will be a great draft. The media seems to be killing our draft grade because these players don’t seem like good dudes. Ball is especially disturbing because of his domestic violence allegations. He must be really talented because most guys in his situation would go undrafted.

True that, and Alonzo Spellman says crazy is crazy does.
This was an alpha dog draft,, they got the psychological consistency grade down perfect on this draft class,, this was a big dawg in the yard draft.

freemanjc19 · May 3, 2021

Mcsports said:
Agreed.
Other than Cox, many of
Dallas picks were taken a full round (30 spots) sooner than they were graded.

Dallas wasn't the only team drafting 4th round guys in the 3rd round. This was happening NFL wide. One rumor I read why this was happening was because there just wasn't many 3rd Round grades on players after the 2nd round ended and the medicals were causing teams concerns. So teams were taking players they just really like at this point in the draft.

cowboyblue22 · May 3, 2021

i hope this draft is better than this guy thinks it is but he may be right but gil brandt gave them a pretty good grade of course it could be that he is being a homer

NotForLong · May 3, 2021

Shake_Tiller said:
I have no issue with the writer's evaluation or with the grade. But there is need for context.

The same folks who have criticized the Cowboys' draft, or the drafts of other teams, conceded, for the most part, the unique nature of this draft. Teams had less information than in the past, and medical information was sparse until the 11th hour.

Many draft analysts and NFL insiders mentioned before the draft that there likely will be more than the usual number of early-round busts and late-round surprises. They seem to have forgotten those cautionary remarks now that the draft has passed.

The Cowboys could be ahead of the curve or behind the curve. Time will tell. But they've earned, in the draft room, a measure of confidence. And it is virtually impossible that the media scouts will have been as accurate this year as in the past. They don't have the resources possessed by the clubs.

I'm not particularly concerned in 2021 what media evaluators thought of any club's draft. We are are flying a bit blind.

Nicely worded. . . I believe this to be true

dckid · May 3, 2021

RS12 said:
Final 2021 NFL draft grades

Eric Edholm
Sun, May 2, 2021, 5:27 PM·61 min read

Dallas Cowboys
Picks: 1-12: Penn State LB Micah Parsons; 2-44: Kentucky CB Kelvin Joseph; 3-75: UCLA DT Osa Odighizuwa; 3-84: Iowa EDGE Chauncey Golston; 3-99: Oregon State CB Nahshon Wright; 4-115: LSU LB Jabril Cox; 4-138: Marshall OT Josh Ball; 5-179: Stanford WR Simi Fehoko; 6-192: Kentucky DT Quinton Bohanna; 6-227: South Carolina CB Israel Mukuamu; 7-238: Nebraska OG Matt Farniok

Favorite pick: Cox

Our favorite by a country mile. Every other pick seemed to be close to where we thought they would land or lower. Cox slipping to Round 4 was a shock, as his coverage ability separated him from many other linebackers (including Parsons) in this year’s class. LSU coaches raved about Cox’s leadership. He’s a perfect complement to Parsons and could be part of a good duo that supplants Leighton Vander Esch and Jaylon Smith in time.

Least-favorite pick: Joseph

There’s an interesting talent here, as Joseph has decent length, great catch-up speed and some burgeoning ball skills. On talent alone, he was well worth his draft slot. But Joseph alienated himself with two different coaching staffs (LSU and Kentucky) and likely is in need of some maturing. Sources have said he can be headstrong and self-interested, and his commitment at both schools was questioned. If he can put it all together and adopt a team mindset, there’s a very good player. Joseph is a big risk for a Cowboys staff that is trying to rebuild the culture after a brutal 2020 season. They missed out on the top two corners, Jaycee Horn and Patrick Surtain II, and were unable to trade up in Round 2 for Tyson Campbell. Any of the three would have offered more stability.

Overall: The Cowboys’ patterned approach of taking character risks gives this class a frightening quality. Parsons was allegedly involved in a hazing scandal at PSU and had his maturity scrutinized during the process by multiple teams. We mentioned Joseph above. And Ball was not allowed to return to Florida State amid dating violence allegations before moving to Marshall. On top of that, things didn’t seem to line up extremely well for Dallas throughout the draft, and it adopted a carpet-bombing approach to aiding a weak defense. The Cowboys feasted on long corners such as Joseph, Wright and Mukuama, which makes sense for Dan Quinn’s defense, but the last two are major projects. Odighizuwa and Golston were not beloved by many scouts and felt overdrafted by a round apiece. We’ll say that Dallas’ scouting staff is considered one of the best talent-evaluating groups in the NFL, but we’re not sure this was their finest effort.

Grade: C-
Grade in 2020: A
Grade in 2019: C+

https://sports.yahoo.com/final-2021-nfl-draft-grades-002740584.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

My guess is most of us give a similar if not lower draft. To me it was a draft of missed opportunity.

Stash · May 3, 2021

RS12 said:
Final 2021 NFL draft grades

Eric Edholm
Sun, May 2, 2021, 5:27 PM·61 min read

Dallas Cowboys
Picks: 1-12: Penn State LB Micah Parsons; 2-44: Kentucky CB Kelvin Joseph; 3-75: UCLA DT Osa Odighizuwa; 3-84: Iowa EDGE Chauncey Golston; 3-99: Oregon State CB Nahshon Wright; 4-115: LSU LB Jabril Cox; 4-138: Marshall OT Josh Ball; 5-179: Stanford WR Simi Fehoko; 6-192: Kentucky DT Quinton Bohanna; 6-227: South Carolina CB Israel Mukuamu; 7-238: Nebraska OG Matt Farniok

Favorite pick: Cox

Our favorite by a country mile. Every other pick seemed to be close to where we thought they would land or lower. Cox slipping to Round 4 was a shock, as his coverage ability separated him from many other linebackers (including Parsons) in this year’s class. LSU coaches raved about Cox’s leadership. He’s a perfect complement to Parsons and could be part of a good duo that supplants Leighton Vander Esch and Jaylon Smith in time.

Least-favorite pick: Joseph

There’s an interesting talent here, as Joseph has decent length, great catch-up speed and some burgeoning ball skills. On talent alone, he was well worth his draft slot. But Joseph alienated himself with two different coaching staffs (LSU and Kentucky) and likely is in need of some maturing. Sources have said he can be headstrong and self-interested, and his commitment at both schools was questioned. If he can put it all together and adopt a team mindset, there’s a very good player. Joseph is a big risk for a Cowboys staff that is trying to rebuild the culture after a brutal 2020 season. They missed out on the top two corners, Jaycee Horn and Patrick Surtain II, and were unable to trade up in Round 2 for Tyson Campbell. Any of the three would have offered more stability.

Overall: The Cowboys’ patterned approach of taking character risks gives this class a frightening quality. Parsons was allegedly involved in a hazing scandal at PSU and had his maturity scrutinized during the process by multiple teams. We mentioned Joseph above. And Ball was not allowed to return to Florida State amid dating violence allegations before moving to Marshall. On top of that, things didn’t seem to line up extremely well for Dallas throughout the draft, and it adopted a carpet-bombing approach to aiding a weak defense. The Cowboys feasted on long corners such as Joseph, Wright and Mukuama, which makes sense for Dan Quinn’s defense, but the last two are major projects. Odighizuwa and Golston were not beloved by many scouts and felt overdrafted by a round apiece. We’ll say that Dallas’ scouting staff is considered one of the best talent-evaluating groups in the NFL, but we’re not sure this was their finest effort.

Grade: C-
Grade in 2020: A
Grade in 2019: C+

https://sports.yahoo.com/final-2021-nfl-draft-grades-002740584.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

I agree with him completely. And I’ve gotten the same slings and arrows that he will as well.

The truth hurts.

Stash · May 3, 2021

TexasFrog said:
Agree! I followed him on Twitter and may be one of the most level headed guys out there with no axe to grind. Good guy who actually reached out to me while in Chicago about places some football nuts hung out. His assessment is pretty spot on and he was honest with staff but how the draft came out

I agree. He nailed this draft for the Cowboys. But fans don’t want to hear or read anything that casts their favorite team in a bad light.

Even in 2009, you couldn’t convince people that that draft was horrible. If the assessment is positive, post-draft grades are fine, if it’s not, THEN we should wait those three years. It’s the same deal every year. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Stash · May 3, 2021

dckid said:
My guess is most of us give a similar if not lower draft. To me it was a draft of missed opportunity.

Agreed. Teams knew our potential targets and repeatedly took them right before our position. But we’ll always have those meaningless late season wins and draft press conference, won’t we? Good times, good times...

Bullet22 · May 3, 2021

Paper grade...A few years down the road, the real grades are given..

Trajan · May 3, 2021

Fair assessment. I see this as a "Boom" or "Bust" type of draft.

Bunch of guys with very high ceilings, but risk too. I could see looking back in a couple years screaming that our 21 draft built the defense for the next 5 years, or burned down what is left of the teams future.

jterrell · May 3, 2021

This is a fair assessment but that means little in the grand scheme of things.

Whether it was a A draft or C draft versus draft boards these guys gotta go play now and we shall see.

I actually really like the Wright pick which basically everyone else hates. I think his length, straight-line speed and ball skills are unique and that makes him worth the gamble. He isn't going to play the slot or be asked to sit in guys hip pockets trailing them. He only had 1 real year of P5 training because of COVID but was a JUCO stud that idolized Sherman growing up and really attacks the ball. You can see Trevon Diggs in his game. Will give up completions but also will make you pay for testing him.

I feel better about the draft now and would give DAL a B+. I thought grabbing Bohanna (next year's back up NT), Fehoko late and other moves showed DAL understood the assignment. They did carpet bomb the defense in some areas but they had the draft capital to do so and they still end up cherry picking good players at the end of the draft. Quinn explaining Parsons was basically the key to shifting the defense to a 3 down line with Parsons as a wild card made that pick fit a loot better than him playing a primarily off-ball role. On tape he's been an attack dog. DAL just created a scheme for4 him to be an attack dog.

G2 · May 3, 2021

Not sure the Joseph take is accurate. Teams dig deep with family, friends, coaches and players.

DRella · May 3, 2021

I personally never understood how grades can be placed on a draft class especially when players havent played a game in the NFL as of yet. This will not be realized until after a couple of years.

How can you compare a player who played for Ohio State to someone that played for a team like Marshall. Different levels of competition.

jterrell · May 3, 2021

DRella said:
I personally never understood how grades can be placed on a draft class especially when players havent played a game in the NFL as of yet. This will not be realized until after a couple of years.

How can you compare a player who played for Ohio State to someone that played for a team like Marshall. Different levels of competition.

It is because people study players and such for months and then as we conclude "draft season" they give out grades... It is hardly science but you aren't going to follow all this stuff for months and months then patiently await results.

Once the season starts no one cares at all. If my teams win it all I could care less about the draft class boost.
For people who can ignore all this stuff it's the smart thing to do but most people get into it and thus are sucked in.

Ekspozed · May 3, 2021

Mcsports said:
Agreed.
Other than Cox, many of
Dallas picks were taken a full round (30 spots) sooner than they were graded.

Many or like 2?

ChronicCowboy · May 3, 2021

Agree with this guy....Joseph needs to help us this season but his maturity issues may not allow that.

Mcsports · May 3, 2021

DRella said:
I personally never understood how grades can be placed on a draft class especially when players havent played a game in the NFL as of yet. This will not be realized until after a couple of years.

How can you compare a player who played for Ohio State to someone that played for a team like Marshall. Different levels of competition.

This is true . Draft gurus are “speculating” on a team’s “speculation.” So grades don’t matter now.

Miller · May 3, 2021

ChronicCowboy said:
Agree with this guy....Joseph needs to help us this season but his maturity issues may not allow that.

He’s the guy I think has the most upside for us. We haven’t had an ultra aggressive DB in a bit that has some swagger and can make game changing plays. I think if he keeps his head on straight and teamed with Diggs he can make a huge impact.

Section446 · May 3, 2021

Fair grade, it was terrible.

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