Parsons confirms 3-4 base and initial position

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Everyone thinks we are moving to the 3-4, which is not true. Against the run it will look like a 3-4, but they will be playing a traditional 4-3 most of the time in the nickel
That’s what Quinn said in his news conference. Said they’ll play both to keep up with the nfl and how it’s changing. 3-4 for prob 30-40% of the time then 4-3 nickel the other. Either way parsons shouldn’t leave the field being picked this high
 

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I don't think there is any doubt we are running 4 DL in our nickel package. What has been debated is our base package. It sounds like Quinn has told Parsons this will be a 3-4. I think the aim is for our 6th round draft pick to start as the Nose
 

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I don't think there is any doubt we are running 4 DL in our nickel package. What has been debated is our base package. It sounds like Quinn has told Parsons this will be a 3-4. I think the aim is for our 6th round draft pick to start as the Nose

I have to say that confuses me a bit. To me, the advantage of the 3-4 is in its ability to disguise things, especially blitzes and pressure. The trade off is having less size and numbers on the line of scrimmage in the run game.

Why run that in base downs only to change it up in obvious passing downs? That doesn’t make sense to me.
 

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I don't think there is any doubt we are running 4 DL in our nickel package. What has been debated is our base package. It sounds like Quinn has told Parsons this will be a 3-4. I think the aim is for our 6th round draft pick to start as the Nose

...........and nose is a 3-4 position designation. Urban is a NT. Obviously there will be variations with 4 DL with hands on the ground, but even Wade's version of the 3-4 was only 50-60% 3-4.
 

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Everyone thinks we are moving to the 3-4, which is not true. Against the run it will look like a 3-4, but they will be playing a traditional 4-3 most of the time in the nickel

yeah, the impression I got from the Quinn vibes, is that we may likely start out in the beginning of the game, and be in the 3-4 ...or 3-3-5 in some instances of the game,
but for 60- 70% of the time, we will be in a either a 4-2-5 look, or a 5-2-4 nickel package look.

- I really have my theory that HC McCarthy has and will always want a 3-4 or hybrid look in some capacity or another.
And there's no dodging around it ., .. Quinn's defense is gonna be bringing another Hybrid version.

- The 3-4 look as well as the newly acquired players (Osa, Bohanna, Watkins, Gholston) is gonna be about run defense, but it will also require DE's Gregory/Dlaw to rush the edge
as OLBs and rare occasions drop back into passing lanes..

-But I expect we'll only see a small semblance of them in drop coverage, as you don't want your two very best pass rushers retrieving the other way most of the game.
but that's the essence of the 3-4, as QBs never know if they are rushing forward or dropping back in the window pass lanes.

- So it will be very interesting to see how the players take to this form of hybrid and nickel from Quinn.....as compared to fired DC Mike Nolan.
Will Quinn's scheme make it simple enough to where players are not frustrated and confuse where there's slower reaction time, missed and blown assignments.
and the defense walling on their heels
 
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I have to say that confuses me a bit. To me, the advantage of the 3-4 is in its ability to disguise things, especially blitzes and pressure. The trade off is having less size and numbers on the line of scrimmage in the run game.

Why run that in base downs only to change it up in obvious passing downs? That doesn’t make sense to me.
I agree.

They can call it whatever they like, but a straight up 43 base never has its rushers standing up....on any down.

I still say that DLaw was not comfortable at all standing up. He played well overall, but most of it was later on, when they seemed to dumb it down a bit to what they were used to.

I'm personally starting to think they may phase him out....and that's not the dumbest thing, considering cap figures of 27 and 29m after this year.
 

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Everyone thinks we are moving to the 3-4, which is not true. Against the run it will look like a 3-4, but they will be playing a traditional 4-3 most of the time in the nickel
DQ literally said that in "base" they will look like a 3-4.

Nickel only has 2 LBers...so it's not a 4-3. This is what they're in 60-70% of the time.
 

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...........and nose is a 3-4 position designation. Urban is a NT. Obviously there will be variations with 4 DL with hands on the ground, but even Wade's version of the 3-4 was only 50-60% 3-4.

Wade's 3-4 scheme wasn't the traditional 3-4 look. Virtually every 3-4 scheme was about 2 gaps.
Whereas Wade's 3-4 look was actually a one gap scheme. it emphasize DL slanting and getting upfield vs the traditional 3-4's placing emphasizing on read first-react 2nd
and more so controlling two gaps.
 
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