Kelvin Joseph and his sub 4.3 speed what's not to like?

Rockport · May 6, 2021

ABQCOWBOY said:
Says the guy who has been here for a minute. I put up with that guys BS for years as a MOD. LOL..... I won't be doing it as a regular old poster.

I mean, read the post. It's not real tough to figure out that I said nothing even remotely close to what he suggested. That wasn't an accident on his part. It's a whatever thing but what it's not, is worth my time to worry about.

Have a good day.

The lame excuse, "I didn't say those words". No you didn't but you sure insinuated it. That's the same thing.

ABQCOWBOY · May 6, 2021

DominantD said:
Based on draft profiles of Diggs vs. Joseph, who would have been projected higher?

Based on what we've seen of Diggs in a Cowboys uniform, who do you project as the stronger corner at the end of the 2021 season?

I like Diggs.

Rockport · May 6, 2021

ABQCOWBOY said:
Then it shouldn't have to be explained to you. If you feel that strongly, report the post.

Clearly, the have a nice day thing is not what your interested in.

Still up to your ole tricks huh. Every time you engage with someone it turns into a pissing contest.

charron · May 6, 2021

All Dallas rookies are in the same boat now. They are here for a reason, now they got to show us on the field.

ABQCOWBOY · May 6, 2021

Rockport said:
Still up to your ole tricks huh. Every time you engage with someone it turns into a pissing contest.

Well, if it's a problem for you, you can just refrain from responding to my posts or just flat ignore will work. But we both know you won't do that because that's not what you want. You want to try and stir the pot. So you got it coming. Just stop crying about it so much.

Rockport · May 6, 2021

ABQCOWBOY said:
Well, if it's a problem for you, you can just refrain from responding to my posts or just flat ignore will work. But we both know you won't do that because that's not what you want. You want to try and stir the pot. So you got it coming. Just stop crying about it so much.

I've had you on ignore for months. Decided to give you another try as I do with all those I have on ignore. But you haven't changed so back on.

kevm3 · May 6, 2021

Talentwise, this kid has it. The concern was moreso whether he can keep his focus while off the field and avoid getting in trouble. We've had a history of 2nd round guys with a ton of talent that rarely got to display it because they were injured or suspended. I hope he's one of the guys that bucks that trend.

CowboyRoy · May 6, 2021

freemanjc19 said:
I think people will start to love him when he get multiple pick 6's.

My only concern is off field. Cowboys have a history of not doing well in the 2nd round with these risks.

Kingofholland · May 6, 2021

RonnieT24 said:
I've heard a number of people complaining about this pick.. This guy blanketed pretty much anybody he faced and reportedly sports blazing speed enough to run with anybody including Tyreke Hill. People seem bent outta shape over the whole "rap career" thing.. which I suppose might be a thing.. but unless his music gets a lot better he's not going to make enough money from it to quit football. He's hardly the first player to have interests outside football.. Given the receivers the Eagles and Giants drafted and let's not forget McLaurin in DC having a guy who is as fast as any of them can only be a plus. Watching how effortlessly he runs stride for stride with the Bama Heisman trophy winner is eye opening to say the least. I'm looking forward to watching teams try him deep.. cause I don't think it's going to work out that well for them..

No complaints with the pick only knock on him is he essentially had played CB in 9 college starts and apparently had disagreements with coaches along the way. Experience is the biggest factor, but no doubt the games he played in were impressive. If there was more film film he may be in discusaion with Surtain and Horn.

Those complaining may feel he is a character concern, or wanted Barmore ir Moehrig instead. I would have liked Barmore then traded back into the 2nd for Moehrig or Jospeh, but I'm fine with how this all worked out.

ABQCOWBOY · May 6, 2021

Rockport said:
I've had you on ignore for months. Decided to give you another try as I do with all those I have on ignore. But you haven't changed so back on.

Well, fortunately for you, you can just put me right back on. My feelings won't be hurt, in the least. I mean, can you do that now? And for the record, you don't give chances around here. You get them. I'm good with you never taking me off.

JohnnyHopkins · May 6, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
He plays like sub 4.3 speed.

The Fast......

Rockport said:
Still up to your ole tricks huh. Every time you engage with someone it turns into a pissing contest.

ABQCOWBOY said:
Well, if it's a problem for you, you can just refrain from responding to my posts or just flat ignore will work. But we both know you won't do that because that's not what you want. You want to try and stir the pot. So you got it coming. Just stop crying about it so much.

and the Furious

:laugh:

ABQCOWBOY · May 6, 2021

JohnnyHopkins said:
The Fast......

and the Furious

Gotta admit, that was pretty damn funny Johnny. I'm gonna like your post on this one Brother.

ItzKelz · May 6, 2021

RonnieT24 said:
I've heard a number of people complaining about this pick.. This guy blanketed pretty much anybody he faced and reportedly sports blazing speed enough to run with anybody including Tyreke Hill. People seem bent outta shape over the whole "rap career" thing.. which I suppose might be a thing.. but unless his music gets a lot better he's not going to make enough money from it to quit football. He's hardly the first player to have interests outside football.. Given the receivers the Eagles and Giants drafted and let's not forget McLaurin in DC having a guy who is as fast as any of them can only be a plus. Watching how effortlessly he runs stride for stride with the Bama Heisman trophy winner is eye opening to say the least. I'm looking forward to watching teams try him deep.. cause I don't think it's going to work out that well for them..

Yea considering we have had rappers & DJ's on our team; it seems quite ridiculous to holding that against him as a negative.

quickccc · May 6, 2021

Blazing 4.3 speed,.. ball hawk skills,. INT production, ..able to play both man and zone coverages,- (even Byron Jones couldn’t do that and Jones certainly could not INT the ball)

- It’s not just about Johnson's blazing 4.34 40 time, but how he can translate that great speed into great sound coverage, how competitive and confident he can be to
know no fear from any top WR, but so confident he can shadow and shut down the top WRs.
From everything I've heard and observed he has the physical tools and potential to eventually develop into and become one of the true top CBs in the entire NFL.

- There’s a chance that Johnson could potentially even be a better CB than Diggs… I don't think Diggs can jam-press and go 50-60 yards hip to hip with top speedsters such as DJ Metcalf, or Washington's Terry McLaurin
But of course the baby steps comes first,.....

- But I did wonder what it was in Georgia CBs Eric Stokes and Tyson Campbell that they like over Kelvin Johnson ? Pure Ability ? …Or less risk character issues ?
I’d like to see game tapes of the Georgia CBs having to defend-cover the Bama WRs like Kelviin Johnson did.

- From what I read, ‘Bama was targeted just 3 times and they still couldn't take advantage of him,. in turn he took advantage of them.
there’s impressive was game tape of Johnson going hip to hip on a deep fly go route with top WR prospect Dovante Smith, ..en route to an overpowering INT by Johnson into the end zone.
Dovante couldn’t shake him- and imagine what their duel battles with each other will be in this NFC East

- Maybe Johnson is not as game experienced as Surtain, Horn, Farley or the Georgia CBs, or he's as complete and consistent player as of right now,
-and media likes maybe already scrambling to try to dig into his character background, as it’s tied into the reasons why he departed LSU in his very early college days,
and if he is truly committed to football.

- But if you put aside the lack of game experience and past character issues aside,.. and key on his pure football ability; you’d see that Johnson could’ve been just as
right there with the other CBs that went in the 1st round.

:thumbup:

RonnieT24 · May 6, 2021

quickccc said:
Blazing 4.3 speed,.. ball hawk skills,. INT production, ..able to play both man and zone coverages,- (even Byron Jones couldn’t do that and Jones certainly could not INT the ball)

- It’s not just about Johnson's blazing 4.34 40 time, but how he can translate that great speed into great sound coverage, how competitive and confident he can be to
know no fear from any top WR, but so confident he can shadow and shut down the top WRs.
From everything I've heard and observed he has the physical tools and potential to eventually develop into and become one of the true top CBs in the entire NFL.

- There’s a chance that Johnson could potentially even be a better CB than Diggs… I don't think Diggs can jam-press and go 50-60 yards hip to hip with top speedsters such as DJ Metcalf, or Washington's Terry McLaurin
But of course the baby steps comes first,.....

- But I did wonder what it was in Georgia CBs Eric Stokes and Tyson Campbell that they like over Kelvin Johnson ? Pure Ability ? …Or less risk character issues ?
I’d like to see game tapes of the Georgia CBs having to defend-cover the Bama WRs like Kelviin Johnson did.

- From what I read, ‘Bama was targeted just 3 times and they still couldn't take advantage of him,. in turn he took advantage of them.
there’s impressive was game tape of Johnson going hip to hip on a deep fly go route with top WR prospect Dovante Smith, ..en route to an overpowering INT by Johnson into the end zone.
Dovante couldn’t shake him- and imagine what their duel battles with each other will be in this NFC East

- Maybe Johnson is not as game experienced as Surtain, Horn, Farley or the Georgia CBs, or he's as complete and consistent player as of right now,
-and media likes maybe already scrambling to try to dig into his character background, as it’s tied into the reasons why he departed LSU in his very early college days,
and if he is truly committed to football.

- But if you put aside the lack of game experience and past character issues aside,.. and key on his pure football ability; you’d see that Johnson could’ve been just as
right there with the other CBs that went in the 1st round.

Ummm... I think his last name is Joseph.. :flagwave:

Loso86 · May 6, 2021

RonnieT24 said:
I've heard a number of people complaining about this pick.. This guy blanketed pretty much anybody he faced and reportedly sports blazing speed enough to run with anybody including Tyreke Hill. People seem bent outta shape over the whole "rap career" thing.. which I suppose might be a thing.. but unless his music gets a lot better he's not going to make enough money from it to quit football. He's hardly the first player to have interests outside football.. Given the receivers the Eagles and Giants drafted and let's not forget McLaurin in DC having a guy who is as fast as any of them can only be a plus. Watching how effortlessly he runs stride for stride with the Bama Heisman trophy winner is eye opening to say the least. I'm looking forward to watching teams try him deep.. cause I don't think it's going to work out that well for them..

Honestly, most fans don't don their own homework on players. They hear what the media and some scouts say we should take . That determines it all for them. Joseph is a top 3 CB in this draft and top 20 player overall

TheMarathonContinues · May 6, 2021

Crown Royal said:
Yes they have. Plenty of people post things like "focus on football" for things like this, as well as when he would run his mouth on Twitter. Same as with Jaylon and his clothing line, or Romo and Golf, or any other example when a player exhibits or markets an interest beyond 24/7 football.

Yes, he did. And was still a baller. Having interests/pursuits outside of football doesn't indicate success. Aaron Rodgers can shoot State Farm commercials. Leonard Davis and Mark Colombo can start a metal band. Emmitt Smith and Aikman can have bit parts in movies (Little Giants, Tony Maguire).

And Kelvin Joseph can put out rap albums when he isn't at team meetings, practice or games. Nobody knows whether he will be able to do both or choose one or the other. It's fair to worry about the LSU and sitting out the bowl game stuff. The rap interests is a dumb one.

I think its silly because first off you want your athletes to have other interests other than just football. And secondly, most of these guys do have other interests.......endorsements......all types of stuff they do on the side in the NFL.

817Gill · May 6, 2021

stilltheguru said:
His film vs Seth Williams is more concerning. He should never go up against a tall big bodied wr

Trevon Diggs says hello

stilltheguru · May 6, 2021

817Gill said:
Trevon Diggs says hello

Im cool with that. I'm just saying. He swatted Joseph away like a lil kid lol

blueblood70 · May 6, 2021

Risen Star said:
Not like this is the only off field issue with Joseph but I don't have time for players who think they're recording artists. I want them completely focused and obsessed on football. Live it 24/7. You only get so many picks in the draft and these are the guys I want on my team.

No one questions the talent. That's obvious. It's the baggage that would have made me look elsewhere.

But if he drops a diss track on Prescott I'm willing to change my mind on the pick.

I never scammed kids with fake autographs .... I never scammed kids with fake autographs .... I never scammed kids with fake autographs .... and when I see you pass again I will #$@_&$# laugh!

right deion sanders was all business..so serious ..bo jackson i mean all he did was breathe football..shaq diesel? Beasly...

KJ alleged issues are not criminals and dont seem anymore then immaturity and that big check he gets here and challenges he receives as well mentoring from teammates, that stuff wont be an issue..most Pros have other things going on nowadays..

the serious HOF CB all business

Kelvin Joseph and his sub 4.3 speed what's not to like?

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