Video: For the Zeke fans

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I agree. One can hope for change. Dak has to change as much as anything to me. Passing quickly as Dak did more of in 2016 would seem natural. More slot WR passes close to the LOS. More swing passes to Zke. Get the ball out of Daks hands.

Dak was the most productive passer in the league when he went down and in fact was on pace to be the most prolific single season passer in pro football history.. so with due respect I would submit that the only thing that needs to change about our passing attack is how much we use it. We don't need more dink and dunk.. We just need more from the run game to balance things out. I'm just not sure that's what Moore wants his offense to look like.
 

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Dak was the most productive passer in the league when he went down and in fact was on pace to be the most prolific single season passer in pro football history.. so with due respect I would submit that the only thing that needs to change about our passing attack is how much we use it. We don't need more dink and dunk.. We just need more from the run game to balance things out. I'm just not sure that's what Moore wants his offense to look like.
I just want positive change. No more sprint out options where Dak can get tattoos.
 

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I just want positive change. No more sprint out options where Dak can get tattoos.

Well if the running game returns to the 2016-2018 level of production and we pair it with Dak's currently level of passing proficiency we're looking at an all time great offense.. We're talking Greatest Show on Turf levels.. I think better production from the run game also means less of Dak needing to supplement the running game with his legs.. which means less chance of some 200 pound guy snapping his leg using that leg whipping method while trying to pull him down. Ironically the only reason the guy needed to tackle Dak that was was because Dak is so big and strong he was going to drag the dude 5-6 more yards if he went in for a more traditional hit and drive tackle. That deal where the tackler grabs hole of something then sits down and uses his weight to pull the ballcarrier down and his legs to trip him is every bit as dangerous as the horse collar but no one ever says anything about it. The Cowboys have lost two guys to it with Hurns and now Dak.. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if a Cowboys player hurts someone doing it there will be a rule change named after said Cowboys player the very next season.
 

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Do Zeke fans really exist?

I root for Cowboy players. I'm a grown adult. I don't have time to nit pick what all the 50+ humans whom I've never met do at their jobs. When it's Sunday afternoon in the fall, and you happen to be one of the people wearing a star on your helmet, I'm hoping you are good at your job and I'll be a fan of yours for that entire 60 minute game.
 
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If healthy this year, 1300 yards, 9tds

I'm going higher.. 1500 and 12.. If everybody, including himself, stays healthy for the bulk of the season there is no reason why Zeke should not return to his 1400-1500 yards 10-12 TD form. The drastically reduced workload last year probably did him a favor in that his body did not take the same level of beating it would have had he toted the rock 320 times and caught 60 more passes. Yes having 2-3 defenders meet him in the backfield on a third of his carries probably wasn't good for his body either.. but shaving 100 touches off his normal workload has to have done him some good.
 
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Well if the running game returns to the 2016-2018 level of production and we pair it with Dak's currently level of passing proficiency we're looking at an all time great offense.. We're talking Greatest Show on Turf levels.. I think better production from the run game also means less of Dak needing to supplement the running game with his legs.. which means less chance of some 200 pound guy snapping his leg using that leg whipping method while trying to pull him down. Ironically the only reason the guy needed to tackle Dak that was was because Dak is so big and strong he was going to drag the dude 5-6 more yards if he went in for a more traditional hit and drive tackle. That deal where the tackler grabs hole of something then sits down and uses his weight to pull the ballcarrier down and his legs to trip him is every bit as dangerous as the horse collar but no one ever says anything about it. The Cowboys have lost two guys to it with Hurns and now Dak.. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if a Cowboys player hurts someone doing it there will be a rule change named after said Cowboys player the very next season.
All good suggestions..i dream like many about 2016 and how our stars aligned and we were not ready for Aaron Rodgers. But that year was Linehans best year calling players. He is thankfully gone. But he was a big factor. So much more than we admit.
 

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If Peter Brand had applied himself to football instead of baseball he would look at the Dallas Cowboys as an abhorrent monstrosity.
 

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All good suggestions..i dream like many about 2016 and how our stars aligned and we were not ready for Aaron Rodgers. But that year was Linehans best year calling players. He is thankfully gone. But he was a big factor. So much more than we admit.

Yeah that playoff run was misplayed by the coaches.. As much as I loved Dak, we should have gone with the experienced guy in the playoffs. Or at the very least we should have started Romo the last two regular season games to see what if anything he had left. If he came back and was razor sharp you let him go toe to toe with Rodgers and maybe you don't fall down 21-3 before your rookie QB can get his legs under him. If he falls on his face you go back to the kid and never look back.. The only way to screw it up was to never find out "what if Romo is better than Dak?" so that's naturally what we did.
 

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Yeah.. we've talked about this ad nauseum but Moore simply has GOT to stop with the constant delay handoff up the middle as the #1 option in the running game. Especially now that we're weaker up the middle of the offensive line than we have been in probably a decade. Surely he can come up with something more creative than that..

Unfortunately with most of these offensive "geniuses" their genius seems to only manifest in the passing game. When it comes to the running game most of them are about as creative as Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes. For all you too young to get that reference look it up..
It's one thing I do have to give the Shanahan's, father and son, credit for .. Their designs in the running game are as creative as their passing game calls. They make wonderful use of misdirection, tandem blocking etc.

I get that the Cowboys have been more of a power team for most of Jerry's tenure here but the fact of the matter is they don't have the horses up front to be that as currently constituted. Martin, Collins and Smith when healthy can probably consistently move their man out of the hole, but since Fredbeard started falling off and Williams well.. kept being himself, we've had a noticeable weakness up the middle.

Thing is we have to run there some just to keep defenses honest and set up the edge runs.. UNLESS you are creative enough to bait the defense into thinking middle and then hitting the edges. Moore has not mastered that aspect of the run game yet.. We won't get the production we need from it (or Zeke) until he does.

Good Points.

- I think we've also talked about this too, in that If Moore is that limited when it comes to the scheme of the RBs, and needs help in suggestions from HC and other offensive assistants, then that’s when the HC should intervene, that's when the HC needs to step in, step up and bring his input to better help his assistants, better help the team, ..instead of being content with standing aside, and letting Kellen Moore continue to take on the entire offense without some vastly needed adjustment and improvement.

- I’ve seen McCarthy coaches design some really good schemes and formations that was creative in both the run game and pass game.

- Pollard’s skills are being wasted here, imo.. with his receiving skills & agility, 4.3.speed, ability to flex to split outside, or in the slot – we don’t even use him on quick screens, flairs,
wheel routes or isolations, if he was developed and schemed right, he’d easily be one of the better nickel pass catching backs in the league.

- As you speak of Shanahan scheme, if you’d also go back to McCarthy days, you’d see some interesting split -back formations to where it’s design for misdirection and cutbacks, option runs in run game. As well as usage of misdirection flairs, screens, etc to get splash plays in the pass game.

- And these delay handoffs is not the best ideal for a one cut, build up runner that works best the deeper he is in the backfield.
How would Derrick Henry work if he was getting delay handoffs instead of deep handoffs momentum gainers from center ?
 
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I'm going higher.. 1500 and 12.. If everybody, including himself, stays healthy for the bulk of the season there is no reason why Zeke should not return to his 1400-1500 yards 10-12 TD form. The drastically reduced workload last year probably did him a favor in that his body did not take the same level of beating it would have had he toted the rock 320 times and caught 60 more passes. Yes having 2-3 defenders meet him in the backfield on a third of his carries probably wasn't good for his body either.. but shaving 100 touches off his normal workload has to have done him some good.
I just think they’ll throw The ball a lot. And give our second string back some running time too
 

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Dak was the most productive passer in the league when he went down and in fact was on pace to be the most prolific single season passer in pro football history.. so with due respect I would submit that the only thing that needs to change about our passing attack is how much we use it. We don't need more dink and dunk.. We just need more from the run game to balance things out. I'm just not sure that's what Moore wants his offense to look like.
you are making wide ranging assumptions hed be on that pace for all 16, highly doubt it we saw the way 2019 came to screeching halt and they could buy points...

lets tap the breaks on woulda coulda shoulda stats,,

facts he didnt finish the season..lets move on..
 

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I'm rooting for Zeke.

If any position is hurt more than the QB from offensive line injuries, it's RB. Zeke's fumbling issues can't be excused; but otherwise his blocking was sub-par, he had some injury issues, missed one game, and still nearly had 1,000 yards.

We may never see 2016-18 Elliott ever again, but he's still going to be a major threat even if he's only 75-80 percent of the back he once was.
 

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you are making wide ranging assumptions hed be on that pace for all 16, highly doubt it we saw the way 2019 came to screeching halt and they could buy points...

lets tap the breaks on woulda coulda shoulda stats,,

facts he didnt finish the season..lets move on..


You admonish me to move on from 2020 yet you're bringing up 2019? How does that work?

I'm not making any assumptions at all. Dak had never started out a season the way he started 2020.. NO QB has ever started out that hot. He already had almost 1900 yards in 4.5 games. If he just averaged 250 yards a game the reast of that season he was going to finish up around 4500 yards. You make some valid points but your recollection of 2019 might be a bit foggy. The Cowboys hit the 40 point mark twice in the last 3 games and topped 30 points in 5 of the last 10 games .. that's not really a screeching halt. They also lost four games when scoring at least 22 points.. Maybe they just couldn't buy ENOUGH points. I have little doubt that a healthy Dak strafes the Eagles that year and the Cowboys go into the playoffs on a roll.. People can scream "excuse" about the shoulder and hand injury that kept him out of practice all week leading up to that game but denying reality doesn't change it. If players didn't need practice then teams would just show up for the games on Sunday sight unseen. Not practicing hurt Dak which in turn hurt out chances of winning. He could not make all the throws he needed to make to win that game.. I'm not crying over it.. injuries happen.. but the way people constantly bring that game up like the injury had no bearing on anything is pretty annoying.. Then they bring up the New England game .. where he was throwing a wet brick in freezing rain.. I'm sure that was delight for a kid from Louisiana. As was having Amari Cooper's injuries (and South Florida bloodlines) limit him terribly that day.
 

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I’m going to put some respect on Zeke’s name.

Not just because of this video, but if football fans think he’s lost his talent and isn’t a premier RB I am of the opinion that their opinions will be highly challenged this season.

Viable receiving corps. Healthy franchise QB and the o-line is supposed to be healthy with a budding young center and young depth behind the starters.

Zeke is a viable weapon. Believe me, opposing teams have not forgotten about Zeke.

This.
 
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