Position CB

ninja said:

A blitzing Parsons and Cox covering (in place of Jaylon) might do wonders for the CBs. I think the DL will get a lot more pressure and stop the run better. This will lead to longer distances and more rushed and errant throws.

This year's CB position is already better on paper than last year. I think the DB scheme will be better than last year. Better and more weapons and time to implement a better scheme will pay dividends.

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I agree with you that the corners are better the issue is free safety. Kazee may not be ready until August. I wonder if Lewis will get moved to free safety. He can tackle and has ball skills. I don’t think he is good nickel cornerback.

JoeyBoy718 said:

I'm more concerned about DL and safety.

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I agree. I don’t think Hill or Gallimore fit Quinn’s system and we have one free safety who is coming off of a major injury.

Hennessy_King said:

We just need 1 corner to be a baller. I think it becomes kelvin joseph and if still no ballers i like that kid sauce at Cincinnati next draft

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The only one Joseph had troubles with that I know was Pitts and who don't?

Actually hoping the D is far better overall since we are going back to mainly what players understood from 2 years ago and what rookies and free agents more adept to using . Nolan had almost everyone confused as to what their assignment was in relation to their teammate that they were almost out of position every play. D guys shouldn't be chasing someone every play. Guys like Smith, Vander Esch, Lawrence, Gallipoli and Diggs will have for better seasons being more aggressive and knowing teammates there to help them.

Let's not discount some changes to be made whenever the final cuts are in.

The ending of TC might possibly reveal one or two to be taken from this group.

JoeyBoy718 said:

I'm more concerned about DL and safety.

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Me too. Urban Meyer may be a fantastic failure as an NFL coach. There are also different ways and theories how to build an NFL team but when I saw the quote below, it got me depressed as a cowboy fan. We can invest in cb’s every year but until we fix the DT problem, we will not get a true evaluation of our defense.

"There is one commonality of great teams: they have great defensive lines," Meyer said. "You can't avoid that. There are ways to hide other things, but you have to have a strong defensive line. We're committed to do that here."

MWH1967 said:

The only one Joseph had troubles with that I know was Pitts and who don't?

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Exactly. Im not worried if he got beat by pitts. I want him on the outside anyway. Im more excited he locked de smith down for 0 catches and an int

jnday said:

Just out of curiosity, how did the pass rush and run defense improve? Honest question. I don’t see where they upgraded the DL much at all. After cutting Woods, they are depending on a 6th round pick to play a lot of snaps, which is puzzling. He has got not make the team. 6th round draft picks don’t have a high success rate and if he was that good, he would have been drafted much higher.

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Gallimore showed much improvement as the year went on. Hill was much improved and was making some plays before he tore his ACL. Hamilton improved as the year went on. Gregory missed 6 games but played well for the final 10.

I think Parsons blitzing with Lawrence, Gallimore, Hill, and Gregory can get pressure.

Throw in FAs Basham, Urban, and Watkins and we have much better players than Woods, Poe, and Griffen.

The draft looks promising with O-Dig, Golston, and Bohanna. O-Dig and Golston are easily better than Crawford. Bohanna is better than Poe and Woods. Might not be saying much but Poe, Woods, and Crawford were a stinking pile of putrid garbage.

I actually think Gallimore is a really good fit. I know he lacks length compared to the draft picks and FA signings but IMO his role will be as a gap shooting 3T and player that stunts which he is excellent at.

baltcowboy said:

I agree. I don’t think Hill or Gallimore fit Quinn’s system and we have one free safety who is coming off of a major injury.

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Based on Gallimore’s play last year, how does he not fit in any system? Good players fit in any system. All DCs modify their system to the players. I’m not worried at all about Hill and Gallimore fitting in Quinn’s system.

Yeah, FS is an issue but we don’t need an All-Pro there if the other 10 players are good. Just need someone to get by. I think someone on the team will step up. If not, there will be plenty of cuts from other teams or trade opportunities.

ninja said:

Based on Gallimore’s play last year, how does he not fit in any system? Good players fit in any system. All DCs modify their system to the players. I’m not worried at all about Hill and Gallimore fitting in Quinn’s system.

Yeah, FS is an issue but we don’t need an All-Pro there if the other 10 players are good. Just need someone to get by. I think someone on the team will step up. If not, there will be plenty of cuts from other teams or trade opportunities.

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Gallimore was below average last season and graded pretty low by most metrics. He flashed against the Steelers but did little else during the season. Gallimore is also an older prospect. The guy has jag written all over him.

baltcowboy said:

Gallimore was below average last season and graded pretty low by most metrics. He flashed against the Steelers but did little else during the season. Gallimore is also an older prospect. The guy has jag written all over him.

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Not what I saw with my own eyes. I doubt very few people share the same low opinion you have of Gallimore.

ninja said:

Not what I saw with my own eyes. I doubt very few people share the same low opinion you have of Gallimore.

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Agree.. Screw the stats.

Gallimore has something obviously. Regardless of what some PFF grade or whatever scored him.

excited to watch what the Diggs/Joseph combo does over the next decade.
feel good about Lewis.
excited about Wright and Mukuamu.
future looks better than it did pre-draft.

ninja said:

Not what I saw with my own eyes. I doubt very few people share the same low opinion you have of Gallimore.

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My eyes see a jag and I bet the Cowboys see it my way because they just drafted over the guy. We will see training camp is coming in a few months.

CATCH17 said:

Agree.. Screw the stats.

Gallimore has something obviously. Regardless of what some PFF grade or whatever scored him.

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Yeah being graded one of the worst defensive tackles in the league by PFF is a good thing. They have Tank rated way to high.

ninja said:

Gallimore showed much improvement as the year went on. Hill was much improved and was making some plays before he tore his ACL. Hamilton improved as the year went on. Gregory missed 6 games but played well for the final 10.

I think Parsons blitzing with Lawrence, Gallimore, Hill, and Gregory can get pressure.

Throw in FAs Basham, Urban, and Watkins and we have much better players than Woods, Poe, and Griffen.

The draft looks promising with O-Dig, Golston, and Bohanna. O-Dig and Golston are easily better than Crawford. Bohanna is better than Poe and Woods. Might not be saying much but Poe, Woods, and Crawford were a stinking pile of putrid garbage.

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I understand where you are coming from, but I see some different names, but not necessarily better players. Bohanna for example is a 6th round pick that has never played a down in the pros. I see a lot of hope, but not more at this point. Poe was really bad, but last year Poe and McCoy was being touted as big upgrades over the players that they replaced. At this point, it is a lot of unknowns.

jnday said:

I understand where you are coming from, but I see some different names, but not necessarily better players. Bohanna for example is a 6th round pick that has never played a down in the pros. I see a lot of hope, but not more at this point. Poe was really bad, but last year Poe and McCoy was being touted as big upgrades over the players that they replaced. At this point, it is a lot of unknowns.

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Could be wishful thinking but I don't see how the DL doesn't improve over last year since the bar was pretty low.

Also, keep an eye on the UFAs the Cowboys signed. Cowboys tend to find a few good ones who make the roster. Steele and Hamilton (I think) were UFAs who made the team. I posted a thread with all the UFAs and a compilation of their greatest plays. Yeah, it is a highlight reel but they look pretty good. Keep an eye on LB Hines from Texas A&M (he looks really quick), Safety Coyle from Conn/Purdue, and DT Fallou from Oregon.

The pieces are there to build a better puzzle. More time to piece it together. So, I expect a better-looking puzzle this year.

Free-agent CB Richard Sherman (49ers) said he is open to signing with the Seattle Seahawks and has talked with members of the organization this offseason.
Wouldnt mind being a player in the Sherman sweepstakes, would at least bring some veteran leadership to this secondary.

I'll move Reggie and Israel to S so that leaves 8 guys competing for 5 or 6 spots. Think we have 4 locks already, which I starred. Brown would carry a 4.5 million cap hit and is the most experienced player so unless he doesn't have a good preseason he's likely there. CJ Goodwin we know is a great special teams player but doesn't contribute much on defense. However, he's liked by the organization. Canady is interesting, he seemed to be an under the radar money ball type signing so we'll see.

Trevon Diggs*
Jourdan Lewis*
Kelvin Joseph*
Anthony Brown
NahShon Wright*
CJ Goodwin

I think Diggs holds the key to this group this year. Pretty good rookie year where he was ultra competitive despite being on the losing end of some tight throws. If he can elevate further and be in contention for the Pro Bowl I think this group looks a lot better. Lewis posted pretty good grades up until last year when the whole D was a disaster. I'll give him a pass and believe he returns to looking more like the player we were clamoring for to get more playing time. Brown is an average player at best and ok with him being that number 3 guy. Joseph could steal the 2nd starting spot, but he's such a raw talent that may not happen to the 2nd half of the season. No idea what to expect from Wright, but not banking on him contributing a lot this year.