The faulty premise that a slightly upgraded or average D will take us to the playoffs

CowboysFaninHouston · May 13, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
I guess if you view Dak as a bus driver then maybe you come to that conclusion. I don't, I saw Dak putting up monster numbers and vast improvement as he has developed and matured. How others view Dak that is on them and if you want to down play him that is fine but nothing faulty about thinking if this defense stops giving up 29.5 points a game and actually plays decent football this team can win.

he is one of the most infamous Dak trolls. he wants attention, so when he doesn't get it, he starts a dak thread and the dak distractors keep it going.....

CowboysFaninHouston · May 13, 2021

Frozen700 said:
Yes we have a bus driver

But maybe our D will surprise.

All our Bus Driver needs to do is not create turnovers and execute the play given.

Dak isn't the type to go out there and consistently read a defense and make the proper adjustments.

He goes with the play called with maybe 1 audible, and will dink and dunk most of the time.

Which we all have to learn to live with as we extended him.

Maybe if he fails, in a year or 2, we will draft a qb to replace him, so I'm not worried.

so he lucked into being the 2nd in passing yards in 19 and 1st by a mile in first 5 games of 20. and one of the lowest interception rates, highest rated and best deep pass throwers...just pure luck.

yeah, you know a lot about NFL QB play...NOT

CowboysFaninHouston · May 13, 2021

jazzcat22 said:
If people think Dak is a bus driver, well, then he is the BEST bus driver in the NFL.

However if they think bus driver, then their thought process needs rewired.

he is mario andretti of bus drivers.....he made a bus hummm, like nobody's business

Doomsday101 · May 13, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
he is one of the most infamous Dak trolls. he wants attention, so when he doesn't get it, he starts a dak thread and the dak distractors keep it going.....

He is one of many. Myself I like Dak and I think Dak can help this team achieve their goals but until that happens Dak will catch hell. Romo caught hell as did Danny White and it will not stop until this team can win it all and even at that you will have those who have dug their heals in on Dak so far that even that would not change their minds.

OmerV · May 13, 2021

The faulty premise is that it will take a top tier defense to take us to the playoffs. In that context you have to consider that we barely missed the playoffs last year, even with a bad defense and without our starting QB out (who is more than a bus driver). Getting to the playoffs in the NFCE is not that daunting.

If we want to talk about what we need to take us "deep" into the playoffs, that's a different discussion. Again, I think it's false to refer to Dak as a mere bus driver - has any QB ever that was at or near the top of the league in passing stats been referred to as a "bus driver?" But we need help from across the team. One position, or one unit, can't carry the whole load. So, in this context the defense needs to take some considerable strides. I disagree that it will necessarily take several years for the defense to do that though. Teams can, and sometimes do, make great strides in one year.

gimmesix · May 13, 2021

GimmeTheBall! said:
To think that our Boys, with a good offence led by the Bus Driver Dak, needs only to have a slightly better D to succeed is ludicrous.

Yes, let us match up with a team with a great offence and a good D. Guess what happens.

Meanwhile, we are happy just to wish for an upgrade on D so we can compete,

I am not saying don't be optimistic, me fellow workaday fans. What I do caution against is believing that 6 defencive picks in the draft and several in FA will take us far or anywhere.

Hope for the best, me dewey-eyed fans, but don't just yet start planning yer Super Bowl party with banners that proclaim we are better than the 49ers, Green Bay, the Cards or Washington in the NFC or KC or 5 other AFC teams.

An almost-there D wont do it.

Hollah and brings me a dollah!

If you are talking about making the playoffs, then yes, an average defense with this offense (if healthy) can get us there. There have been years that if we had an average defense, we possibly would have made the Super Bowl, but generally you need at least a top 10 defense unless your offense is elite.

My belief when Garett was coach was that he could not coach an elite offense because his offensive philosophy lacked the creativity needed to go with the talent. My hope in switching to McCarthy was that he would add what was missing on that side of the ball to make the offense elite while we at least had an average defense. Last year, injuries took away any hope of having an elite offense while the defense was dismal.

We'll see if he can get us to where we have either an elite offense and average defense or a very good offense and very good defense. The other way to win is with an elite defense and average offense, but I don't think we'll ever see that one here again.

75boyz · May 13, 2021

This OP title sells the offseason narrative. So the waiting game has begin for the Dak congregation's stock pile of excuses to flow freely once his offense don't drop 35 a game like his supporters believe.

Heck, the bar is low for me. Prove to me that maybe 2 .500 or above teams outside the division can be beaten.

Since this year's schedule says the 8 home opponents finished .500 or below, its gonna take a couple of away games to accomplish that.

Dak Attack's version of the Greatest Show on Turf Part II should have no problem against any defense.

Gonna be fun.

MountaineerCowboy · May 13, 2021

GimmeTheBall! said:
To think that our Boys, with a good offence led by the Bus Driver Dak, needs only to have a slightly better D to succeed is ludicrous.

Yes, let us match up with a team with a great offence and a good D. Guess what happens.

Meanwhile, we are happy just to wish for an upgrade on D so we can compete,

I am not saying don't be optimistic, me fellow workaday fans. What I do caution against is believing that 6 defencive picks in the draft and several in FA will take us far or anywhere.

Hope for the best, me dewey-eyed fans, but don't just yet start planning yer Super Bowl party with banners that proclaim we are better than the 49ers, Green Bay, the Cards or Washington in the NFC or KC or 5 other AFC teams.

An almost-there D wont do it.

Hollah and brings me a dollah!

2019 is proof that us just having a good defense is not enough.

CowboysFaninHouston · May 13, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
He is one of many. Myself I like Dak and I think Dak can help this team achieve their goals but until that happens Dak will catch hell. Romo caught hell as did Danny White and it will not stop until this team can win it all and even at that you will have those who have dug their heals in on Dak so far that even that would not change their minds.

I respect you. you engage in logical discussions and present your case with facts....this guy is a pure troll, who changes his logic from post to post, thread to thread. doesn't really respond or post anything but Dak, given Dak gets all the posts and responses and pages upon pages...there is a huge difference between you and it.

The facts are that there are no other alternatives. Dak is a top 10 QB. without Dak, we have no chance, thus it means lets rebuild, meaning dump everyone start from scratch...perhaps rinse, repeat since 80% of first round QBs fail and more in lower rounds. now, some of these trolls complain about salary and wanted to pay less....if he is not the QB they want, paying less doesn't make him better, meaning if you over paid by a few million, then its fine if he is your QB...if he is not, then move on.....

so I do respect you...although you and I have disagreed(and agreed) in the past.

texbumthelife · May 13, 2021

With a healthy roster, even with a terrible defense, this team makes the playoffs last seaosn. It's absolutely reasonable that they'll make the playoffs in 2021.

Doomsday101 · May 13, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
I respect you. you engage in logical discussions and present your case with facts....this guy is a pure troll, who changes his logic from post to post, thread to thread. doesn't really respond or post anything but Dak, given Dak gets all the posts and responses and pages upon pages...there is a huge difference between you and it.

I try to be fair, I like Dak and when he makes a mistake I will say so however will not blame him on things he has no control over. Some of the arguments as purely asinine

CowboysFaninHouston · May 13, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
I try to be fair, I like Dak and when he makes a mistake I will say so however will not blame him on things he has no control over. Some of the arguments as purely asinine

the one fact people forget. every QB makes mistakes. even elite ones...however elite ones make more positive plays than negative...and same with good QBs. so I don't scrutinize every play, every drive, every series, every game...you have to look at over all body of work. context...coaching is huge. play calling is huge part of the game. there is no doubt linehan was bad and cost us some games. there is absolutely no denying that garrett cost us a few games. his in game management was notoriously bad....

GimmeTheBall! · May 13, 2021

johneric8 said:
You're not very bright. The cowboys were missing their entire online and starting QB! They come healthy with some new blood on defense and attitude they have a great year!
San Fran went from worst to best defense a few years ago in one off season so anything can happen. Quit being so derogatory you might add some years to your life

We are not the 49ers.
Quit yer yearly sis-boom-bah and yer breathless waving of the pompoms.
Speaking of bright, have 25 years of watching others in the playoffs not told you something, Luther?
Probably not.

Maxmadden · May 13, 2021

Rockport said:
The only thing ludicrous is this thread.

I agree but when you troll, you get more bites because you can cover more water.
But you have to fish more shallow.

GimmeTheBall! · May 13, 2021

Rockport said:
The only thing ludicrous is this thread.

So you decide to chime in, take up space and tell us?
Go back to your bait stand and sell more dead and skinny night crawlers.

GimmeTheBall! · May 13, 2021

Ekspozed said:
Simp.

We lost the division that was there for the taking without our starting qb and half of our oline and defense.

We get those players back plus a new dcord plus fa and draft picks.

Win the division and you're in.

We can do that.

Jerry called. He said you are better than Mickey Spagnola.

GimmeTheBall! · May 13, 2021

EndGame said:
Washington? You mean the team coming off a 7-9 performance in a historically bad NFC East last year and has done nothing significant to improve its quarterback play? You mean that Washington? What about Green Bay? You mean the one that has its QB clawing to get off the team? What about the Cards? You mean the okay but only slightly above average Cards? What about the 49ers? You mean the team that took a QB at #3 that is nowhere near ready for the NFL?

They have all reloaded, much the way you think we have on defence.

Nav22 · May 13, 2021

Takes a special kind of idiot to think a guy who threw for almost 5,000 yards 2 years ago, and who was on pace to shatter the NFL record for passing yards 1 year ago.... is a “bus driver.”
:thumbup:

GimmeTheBall! · May 13, 2021

Future said:
The problem with your whole schtick is that it really hides the fact that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Conversely, you think you do.
Tell us how this year we go to the Super Bowl.
C'mon, brave one and Future prognosticator, tell us your prediction and our opponent in the Super Bowl.

GimmeTheBall! · May 13, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
we needed another Dak thread.... fantastic...I guess you are not getting enough attention.

geez dude. take a break...

As long as I have your attention it is worthwhile.
...

There are some (such as you) who can't wait, like a mean girl with arms akimbo, to chime in.
Build your own post/thread, then, and tell us the way it really is, Karen.

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