Where does DLAW fit?

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I don’t think this is being talked about enough. DLaw may not fit neatly into the package that Quinn wants to implement. He’s a good (but not great) player with a bloated contract.

He isn’t a DT. He’s not a 3/4 DE. In the nickel he can be a pass rusher (and of course teams are in nickel a lot) but that’s a situational player making $20m plus per year.

What is DLaw’s cap hit on a trade situation? If it’s a reasonable hit, would the team consider trading him to a full time 4-3 team for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and save his cap hit, in part due to Daks’s massive deal?
 

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I don’t think this is being talked about enough. DLaw may not fit neatly into the package that Quinn wants to implement. He’s a good (but not great) player with a bloated contract.

He isn’t a DT. He’s not a 3/4 DE. In the nickel he can be a pass rusher (and of course teams are in nickel a lot) but that’s a situational player making $20m plus per year.

What is DLaw’s cap hit on a trade situation? If it’s a reasonable hit, would the team consider trading him to a full time 4-3 team for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and save his cap hit, in part due to Daks’s massive deal?
Dan Quinn won't have any players on his defense that "don't fit". I expect DQ will work with him so that he does fit. A trade is out of the question.
 

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DLaw may have to step it up this year and play the run, and the pass. If he can step up and play better against the run and pass then he'll be fine.
 

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I don’t think this is being talked about enough. DLaw may not fit neatly into the package that Quinn wants to implement. He’s a good (but not great) player with a bloated contract.

He isn’t a DT. He’s not a 3/4 DE. In the nickel he can be a pass rusher (and of course teams are in nickel a lot) but that’s a situational player making $20m plus per year.

What is DLaw’s cap hit on a trade situation? If it’s a reasonable hit, would the team consider trading him to a full time 4-3 team for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and save his cap hit, in part due to Daks’s massive deal?
Quinn won’t be running a 34… it’ll be a 43 under, which looks like a 34 to the average fan.

The DE’s in the 43 under don’t need to be as big as a 34 DE. One DE is a LEO, which doesn’t even have to be as big as a normal 43 DE, mainly because of his alignment (9). The other DE, called a Big End much of the time in the 43 under, needs to be somewhat bigger than a regular 43 strong side DE… but not as big as a 34 end. They must be strong against the run, which Lawrence is.

Having said all of that, it is a good question where exactly Lawrence will be used. They could use him as a LEO some but he is at the upper end of the size scale for that position. Gregory is pretty much a textbook example of a LEO and should spend his time there. Lawrence could be used to spell Gregory at times there though.

He will probably be used at Big End a good portion of the time (when in the 43 under) because he provides a good pass rush while also being solid against the run. but that is speculation.

The big end will and can line up anywhere from the 5, down to the 4 and even the 4i, which is inside the OT. I would imagine if they are in the 43 under and they think it could be a pass, then Lawrence would play Big End as a 5. In running situations, they’ll probably use a guy like Urban or Watkins in the 4 or 4i to better shut down the OT/OG bubble. It’ll depend on the situation.

Of course, in the nickel, which will be an estimated 60-70% of the time according to Quinn… they will really be in a 4 man line and Lawrence will be playing the SDE that he’s been playing for years, so he’ll just be playing like normal for him.

Perhaps in some heavy defensive sets they’ll put Lawrence at LEO and Urban at Big End to better stop the run. That may or may not happen. But again the base 43 under will only be 30-40% of the time.

DeMarcus might even go inside and rush from the 3 as a DT. Quinn will use two 3’s in some pass rush sets.

Ultimately, we will just have to wait and see what Quinn does with Lawrence, but I’d expect something along the lines of what I just described. There’s a lot of ways to use him.
 

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Quinn won’t be running a 34… it’ll be a 43 under, which looks like a 34 to the average fan.

The DE’s in the 43 under don’t need to be as big as a 34 DE. One DE is a LEO, which doesn’t even have to be as big as a normal 43 DE, mainly because of his alignment (9). The other DE, called a Big End much of the time in the 43 under, needs to be somewhat bigger than a regular 43 strong side DE… but not as big as a 34 end. They must be strong against the run, which Lawrence is.

Having said all of that, it is a good question where exactly Lawrence will be used. They could use him as a LEO some but he is at the upper end of the size scale for that position. Gregory is pretty much a textbook example of a LEO and should spend his time there. Lawrence could be used to spell Gregory at times there though.

He will probably be used at Big End a good portion of the time (when in the 43 under) because he provides a good pass rush while also being solid against the run. but that is speculation.

The big end will and can line up anywhere from the 5, down to the 4 and even the 4i, which is inside the OT. I would imagine if they are in the 43 under and they think it could be a pass, then Lawrence would play Big End as a 5. In running situations, they’ll probably use a guy like Urban or Watkins in the 4 or 4i to better shut down the OT/OG bubble. It’ll depend on the situation.

Of course, in the nickel, which will be an estimated 60-70% of the time according to Quinn… they will really be in a 4 man line and Lawrence will be playing the SDE that he’s been playing for years, so he’ll just be playing like normal for him.

Perhaps in some heavy defensive sets they’ll put Lawrence at LEO and Urban at Big End to better stop the run. That may or may not happen. But again the base 43 under will only be 30-40% of the time.

DeMarcus might even go inside and rush from the 3 as a DT. Quinn will use two 3’s in some pass rush sets.

Ultimately, we will just have to wait and see what Quinn does with Lawrence, but I’d expect something along the lines of what I just described. There’s a lot of ways to use him.
Thank you for your usual well thought out reply.
 

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Lawrence is just another one of those overpaid players who are just gravy. If we get something out of him, fine. Don't expect anything other than the usual 6 or so sacks and a lot of atta boys for getting pressure.

Hopefully, it will be his last year here and the team will be phasing him out as the year goes on. Looking forward to more of Gregory, Golston, Odiggy, Anae, Armstrong, Urban, and Basham and less of Lawrence.
 

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Lawrence is just another one of those overpaid players who are just gravy. If we get something out of him, fine. Don't expect anything other than the usual 6 or so sacks and a lot of atta boys for getting pressure.

Hopefully, it will be his last year here and the team will be phasing him out as the year goes on. Looking forward to more of Gregory, Golston, Odiggy, Anae, Armstrong, Urban, and Basham and less of Lawrence.
He sure sat on the bench a LOT for a $20M player. Not much production for the cap hit.
 

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DLaw may have to step it up this year and play the run, and the pass. If he can step up and play better against the run and pass then he'll be fine.


I hear you but I disagree, I think he plays the run well but he needs to be MORE of a game changer in getting to it qb
 

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I don’t think this is being talked about enough. DLaw may not fit neatly into the package that Quinn wants to implement. He’s a good (but not great) player with a bloated contract.

He isn’t a DT. He’s not a 3/4 DE. In the nickel he can be a pass rusher (and of course teams are in nickel a lot) but that’s a situational player making $20m plus per year.

What is DLaw’s cap hit on a trade situation? If it’s a reasonable hit, would the team consider trading him to a full time 4-3 team for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and save his cap hit, in part due to Daks’s massive deal?


Agree.. Based on what I’m seeing he won’t be the greatest scheme fit unless they move him to RE more which he can do.
 

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Lawrence is just another one of those overpaid players who are just gravy. If we get something out of him, fine. Don't expect anything other than the usual 6 or so sacks and a lot of atta boys for getting pressure.

Hopefully, it will be his last year here and the team will be phasing him out as the year goes on. Looking forward to more of Gregory, Golston, Odiggy, Anae, Armstrong, Urban, and Basham and less of Lawrence.
 

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If they trade Lawrence, the CAP hit is $2 million I believe. His CAP hit in 2021 is $25 million. There is $27 million in prorated bonus and restructure left on his contract.

Lawrence has to be one the most overpaid players in the league.
 

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Dallas may end up in the tough spot of Gregory putting up double digit sack numbers....largely due to the play of Lawrence...then they can't afford both.

This kind of reminds me of Greg Ellis when Parcells switched to 34. It wasn't a great fit but he kept him around because he was a "pressure player" and they aren't easy to find.

Regardless, IIRC correctly, his cap figures rise to 27 and 29m after this season, so he will need to restructure or take a massive cut.....not likely in a bad fit.

This of course assumes Quinn is still here by then lol.
 

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I don’t think this is being talked about enough. DLaw may not fit neatly into the package that Quinn wants to implement. He’s a good (but not great) player with a bloated contract.

He isn’t a DT. He’s not a 3/4 DE. In the nickel he can be a pass rusher (and of course teams are in nickel a lot) but that’s a situational player making $20m plus per year.

What is DLaw’s cap hit on a trade situation? If it’s a reasonable hit, would the team consider trading him to a full time 4-3 team for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and save his cap hit, in part due to Daks’s massive deal?
Just had to put Dak's name in there, right?
 

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He sure sat on the bench a LOT for a $20M player. Not much production for the cap hit.

umm do some research not from memory from the games you watched..

it was horrible season last year , bad scheme, terrible players supporting the stars but just quick check and found this,

Chase young 75% of the teams defensive snaps, TJ watt 67% many hover near high 70 to low 80s DLAW 61% in bad year on bad defense in bad scheme fit..

dak made 32mil for 5 games how many snaps was that compared to pay scale?
 
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Quinn won’t be running a 34… it’ll be a 43 under, which looks like a 34 to the average fan.

The DE’s in the 43 under don’t need to be as big as a 34 DE. One DE is a LEO, which doesn’t even have to be as big as a normal 43 DE, mainly because of his alignment (9). The other DE, called a Big End much of the time in the 43 under, needs to be somewhat bigger than a regular 43 strong side DE… but not as big as a 34 end. They must be strong against the run, which Lawrence is.

Having said all of that, it is a good question where exactly Lawrence will be used. They could use him as a LEO some but he is at the upper end of the size scale for that position. Gregory is pretty much a textbook example of a LEO and should spend his time there. Lawrence could be used to spell Gregory at times there though.

He will probably be used at Big End a good portion of the time (when in the 43 under) because he provides a good pass rush while also being solid against the run. but that is speculation.

The big end will and can line up anywhere from the 5, down to the 4 and even the 4i, which is inside the OT. I would imagine if they are in the 43 under and they think it could be a pass, then Lawrence would play Big End as a 5. In running situations, they’ll probably use a guy like Urban or Watkins in the 4 or 4i to better shut down the OT/OG bubble. It’ll depend on the situation.

Of course, in the nickel, which will be an estimated 60-70% of the time according to Quinn… they will really be in a 4 man line and Lawrence will be playing the SDE that he’s been playing for years, so he’ll just be playing like normal for him.

Perhaps in some heavy defensive sets they’ll put Lawrence at LEO and Urban at Big End to better stop the run. That may or may not happen. But again the base 43 under will only be 30-40% of the time.

DeMarcus might even go inside and rush from the 3 as a DT. Quinn will use two 3’s in some pass rush sets.

Ultimately, we will just have to wait and see what Quinn does with Lawrence, but I’d expect something along the lines of what I just described. There’s a lot of ways to use him.
That's mumbo jumbo. You are the average fan, BTW.
:thumbup:lol--JK.
 

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If they trade Lawrence, the CAP hit is $2 million I believe. His CAP hit in 2021 is $25 million. There is $27 million in prorated bonus and restructure left on his contract.

Lawrence has to be one the most overpaid players in the league.
The cap hit would be $44 million this year but split it after June 1st which I believe would be something like $16 million cap hit this year and roughly $30 million next year. So he will be on the roster this year. Next year the dead cap would be $19 million.
 

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umm do soem resercjh not from memory from the games tyou wathed..

it was horrible season last year , bad scheme, terrible players supporting the stars but just quick check and found this,

Chase young 75% of the teams defensive snaps, TJ watt 67% many hover near high 70 to low 80s DLAW 61% in bad year on bad defense in bad scheme fit..

dak made 32mil for 5 games how many snaps was that compared to pay scale?
I'd make the argument that he was the one most affected by Nolan.

He never at all looked comfortable standing up....and it appears that won't change.

He does still play very well....he just doesn't get the sack numbers and is paid like he does.

Anyway, here's the real deal....just looked it up.

After this season, they can designate him a June 1 release and save 19 million of cap space.

Either that or carry him at 27m, or restructure.

I think he has this year in Dallas and that's that...unless he gets hurt or has a bad season...then maybe he would accept a pay cut.

Again, not at all a bad player, just may be a better move to draft his replacement high and be able to bring back Gallup.
 
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I don’t think this is being talked about enough. DLaw may not fit neatly into the package that Quinn wants to implement. He’s a good (but not great) player with a bloated contract.

He isn’t a DT. He’s not a 3/4 DE. In the nickel he can be a pass rusher (and of course teams are in nickel a lot) but that’s a situational player making $20m plus per year.

What is DLaw’s cap hit on a trade situation? If it’s a reasonable hit, would the team consider trading him to a full time 4-3 team for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and save his cap hit, in part due to Daks’s massive deal?
I bet he has as many snaps this year as last year
You are in nickel 60-70% of the time and he played 60% of snaps
So even if he didn’t play the small amount of snaps we will be in base it’s no difference
No player plays every snap on the dline
 
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