The Dallas Cowboys Minicamp Standouts + Dan Quinn & George Edwards Input|

TheMarathonContinues · May 19, 2021

PhillyCowboysFan said:
I have no idea who ****NOT-AN-OFFICIAL-SOURCE*** is or what kind of access he has to the team. But I am thinking he is just a blogger that spends a lot of his time breaking down film, and I do appreciate his work as it sometimes gives me another prospective.

But with that said it is funny how he states that “the thing he has noticed is the coaches are really putting in the work, more so then before”. That was stated as a matter of fact but how can that be as they just completed there first rookie mini camp with just a few vid clips here and there. So how the hell does he come up with that statement? Unless he is actually at the practices and has been there in prior years to compare.

Its probably true. I mean they say it everytime. They said it last year when McCarthy came.

PhillyCowboysFan · May 19, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
I just like the fact that Quinn has a background as a DL coach and is putting in the time teaching young DL players in a hands on approach.

I like it also BUT so was Marinelli.

CouchCoach · May 19, 2021

INCowboysFan said:
Nolan should have known better than to try and do a complete overhaul given the circumstances of 2020. His biggest failure, IMO, was not recognizing that he didn't have enough time/practice to completely overhaul the defense.

He was hired to install his defense. The fault isn't his, it's the GM and HC.

PhillyCowboysFan · May 19, 2021

rocyaice said:
Its probably true. I mean they say it everytime. They said it last year when McCarthy came.

Yes I get what you are saying but I just don’t know how he can make that kind of statement without being at an actual practice.

Irvin88_4life · May 19, 2021

blueblood70 said:
like he mentioned this isnt new Marinelli was very hands on and we saw JG working on the field all the time with players..so calm down with the excitement already lOL

hers the difference. Nolan did NOT HAVE AN OFFSEASON, most of his critics are unfairly judging this guy, as little as thee Rookie OTas, OTAS, MC, TC and PS seem, its the single biggest reason for the failure of Nolan getting is scheme installed with the correct players.. second reason Injuries..have to get to 3 for actual coaching..

sure he was let go as a lot of defensive coaches because of the unsuccessful season but IMHO given this full offseason im betting they would have had chance to improve a lot..

assessments of any plyer or coach last year truly is incomplete and unfair.. i mean of course the offense being for the most part status quo from 19 the defense tried to to change everything and how that on Nolan alone is just using him as scapegoat..

hers to having hope its going to be better..ill save my praise for Real game results not rookie OTAS

I disagree. It's not like they didn't know that preseason would be canceled. Should haven't tried to install a new defense by instead do minor changes and as the season goes on implement more. Coaching is absolutely to blame

TheMarathonContinues · May 19, 2021

PhillyCowboysFan said:
Yes I get what you are saying but I just don’t know how he can make that kind of statement without being at an actual practice.

He can't. I don't think he can. I'm sure he's hearing good things like we do every year. But i'm sure you can find someone speaking highly about Mike Nolan last year...and we see how that went.

JBS · May 19, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
****NOT-AN-OFFICIAL-SOURCE*** seems like a guy I’d wanna have a beer with, but his malapropisms make my ears bleed.

You stole the words right out of my mouth

TheMarathonContinues · May 19, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
I disagree. It's not like they didn't know that preseason would be canceled. Should haven't tried to install a new defense by instead do minor changes and as the season goes on implement more. Coaching is absolutely to blame

So then you basically wanted them to bring back Maranelli?

IMO, I had no issue with them implementing a new defense. Implementing a new defense is no excuse to do what they did last year. I think the team thought with everyone healthy at worst they'd have a good enough offense to win and just needed a decent defense.

TheMarathonContinues · May 19, 2021

INCowboysFan said:
Nolan should have known better than to try and do a complete overhaul given the circumstances of 2020. His biggest failure, IMO, was not recognizing that he didn't have enough time/practice to completely overhaul the defense.

I'm sure Nolan didn't think he'd be scapegoated and one and done. He knew it was a process...hell he didn't even have the personnel he wanted i'm sure.

DenCWBY · May 19, 2021

Pantone282C said:
I think that the 2018 defense was showing signs of progress, especially for the LBers. It went downhill from there with Marilnelli and Richard running different and new schemes. Total lack of control by the GM over the team's direction and cohesion. Nolan didn't have the optimal circumstances for installing a new defense, and it certainly wasn't one fit to the players as promised.

Knowing this team's historical management flaws in the FO, everyone knows the DC coaching job is the scapegoat to any and all excuses to the overall problems with the team. The DC is a dead man walking in most any scenario which is by design with this organization and I'm sure present company will feel the same pressure. Nolan ultimately didn't help himself with the way the D performed and now that we finally drafted heavy on the defensive side of the ball, it will be interesting to see how long Quinn can stay aboard.

johneric8 · May 19, 2021

stasheroo said:
I can’t help but to get excited during this time of year. Ultimately, we’re all fans and want to see our team do well.

‘Hope springs eternal’.

Yes! and lets not forget that a few years back a notoriously bad 49'ers defense went from very bad to pretty damn good in a little more than an off season. As jaded as we are as Cowboys fans, we have to keep in mind that it's not out of the question to see a major turn around for the better, it literally can happen. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I will not lose hope.

Stash · May 19, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
I disagree. It's not like they didn't know that preseason would be canceled. Should haven't tried to install a new defense by instead do minor changes and as the season goes on implement more. Coaching is absolutely to blame

And in fact, things went the complete OPPOSITE way. Nolan starting dialing things back after the disastrous start and that’s when things actually began to improve. They and showing the bums and malcontents the door. That’s something I give the organization credit for.

blueblood70 · May 19, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
I disagree. It's not like they didn't know that preseason would be canceled. Should haven't tried to install a new defense by instead do minor changes and as the season goes on implement more. Coaching is absolutely to blame

nope disagree lot more factors then that... next

Doomsday101 · May 19, 2021

PhillyCowboysFan said:
I like it also BUT so was Marinelli.

True, Marinelli was smart enough to know he did not have what he needed and played a lot of bend but don't break defense, it gave up yards but more times than not did not give up points. Last season we gave up a ton of yards and points.

Irvin88_4life · May 19, 2021

rocyaice said:
So then you basically wanted them to bring back Maranelli?

IMO, I had no issue with them implementing a new defense. Implementing a new defense is no excuse to do what they did last year. I think the team thought with everyone healthy at worst they'd have a good enough offense to win and just needed a decent defense.

It's difficult to implement a new scheme with offseason and preseason even tougher with none. Defense failed mainly cause of coaching

Beaker42 · May 19, 2021

Pantone282C said:
Nolan was never that successful from what I see of his history. Failure on MM's part to count on him. He might not have had much choice but to pick him.

Any college DC would’ve been a better choice than Mike Nolan.

nalam · May 19, 2021

blueblood70 said:
like he mentioned this isnt new Marinelli was very hands on and we saw JG working on the field all the time with players..so calm down with the excitement already lOL

hers the difference. Nolan did NOT HAVE AN OFFSEASON, most of his critics are unfairly judging this guy, as little as thee .....

hers to having hope its going to be better..ill save my praise for Real game results not rookie OTAS

Nolan didnt have a very best defense in his coaching career , and due to the bolded portion, he should have kept the defense simple to execute and covered the basics. There shouldnot have been gaping holes to run through , totally unprotected receivers running wild , but NO....

Let’s hope Dan is different

TheMarathonContinues · May 19, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
It's difficult to implement a new scheme with offseason and preseason even tougher with none. Defense failed mainly cause of coaching

I'd agree. I think Nolan sucks but I also think he's being scapegoated.

jnday · May 19, 2021

stasheroo said:
I can’t help but to get excited during this time of year. Ultimately, we’re all fans and want to see our team do well.

‘Hope springs eternal’.

I used to be that way, but I got tired of having my hopes bashed when the season started. I had rather seen them draft quality over quantity, but I hope this draft class is better than my initial impression that I had.

Doomsday101 · May 19, 2021

DenCWBY said:
Knowing this team's historical management flaws in the FO, everyone knows the DC coaching job is the scapegoat to any and all excuses to the overall problems with the team. The DC is a dead man walking in most any scenario which is by design with this organization and I'm sure present company will feel the same pressure. Nolan ultimately didn't help himself with the way the D performed and now that we finally drafted heavy on the defensive side of the ball, it will be interesting to see how long Quinn can stay aboard.

when teams run the ball up your gut at will someone got to pay. This was not just bad this was historical bad. I think with Quinn he has some skins on the wall not just DC of the Seahawks but DL coach of the seahawks and a SB ring. In Alt he was head coach and while things ended poorly, he also got that team to a SB. Nolan track record was not overly impressive and many including myself had a lot doubts about the defense but even the optimist I am I never would have expected as poor of a showing that Nolan defense had.

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