News: PFT: Watson still wants a trade

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Keep in mind, he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong, and let's be honest, up to this point none of the girls have accused him of anything rising to the level of criminal activities. Just me, it appears he's pervy with a massage fetish that played games with how far women would doing their professional job. It's odd, strange, but criminal, I'm not sure.
Sexual harassment is criminal.

You don't play games to see how far a women would go.
 

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if players are under contracts that they signed, are unhappy and skip mandatory obligations under that contract, they should be kicked out of the league.

1 or 2 players and that would stop

Thats the point of the NFLPA, so the NFL can’t do totalitarian stuff like that.

NFL tries it, NFLPA submits a 100+m$ class action lawsuit for violating the CBA and “that would stop”.
 

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if players are under contracts that they signed, are unhappy and skip mandatory obligations under that contract, they should be kicked out of the league.

1 or 2 players and that would stop
They can be fined and can lose an accrued year
Don’t think he actually believes any team will trade for him till he gets his legal issues straightened out
 

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Thats the point of the NFLPA, so the NFL can’t do totalitarian stuff like that.

NFL tries it, NFLPA submits a 100+m$ class action lawsuit for violating the CBA and “that would stop”.

Sorry, but the totalitarian part of that is the player. They are saying, I am not going to do what i signed a contract to do, and which you havent missed payments for, and I am going to break my agreement until you do what i want, or I will sabotage your team and what all the other players and personal are working for, and the time you spent scouting, training, feeding, and housing me
 
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Sexual harassment is criminal.

You don't play games to see how far a women would go.
I just don't get it. I understand the prevailing thought of top athletes thinking they are bullet-proof, but that ain't happening no more.

And what kind of crap human are you to be doing things like that?

I'm not saying I'm assuming he's guilty, but if he is, I just don't get it.
This day and age is not like yesterday.
You gon' get burned. And burned ugly.
And we shouldn't be like this anyway! Some peeps have zero conscious.

This is why I have always refused to be on social media, much to my agent's chagrin.
One wrong word, one wrong action... even if it was 20 years ago- Burn.

No no no. Keep me nose clean and stay the hell off of things that can burn me.

Retire with a clean conscious and zero worries while looking forward to a great life.
 

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Sorry, but the totalitarian part of that is the player. They are saying, I am not going to do what i signed a contract to do, and which you havent missed payments in, and I am going to break my agreement until you do what i want, or I will sabotage your team and what all the other players and personal are working for, and the time you spent scouting, training, feeding, and housing me

Yes, which the NFL has agreed the player is allowed to do via the CBA. There is language for specific punishments for those actions. Same reason the NFL is allowed to cut players under contract.

To collude into preventing a player from playing in the league without cause previously agreed upon by the NFLPA would result in a major legal issue
 

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Yes, which the NFL has agreed the player is allowed to do via the CBA. There is language for specific punishments for those actions. Same reason the NFL is allowed to cut players under contract.

To collude into preventing a player from playing in the league without cause previously agreed upon by the NFLPA would result in a major legal issue

Ok, i understand now. They should change that, and kick them out of the league instead. We wouldnt have signed zeke early and to a bad contract if this had been done
 

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Ok, i see now. They should change that, and kick them out of the league instead. We wouldnt have signed zeke early and to a bad contract if this had been done

Problem is the players are a lot more important to the league than the owners. The nfl knows this... If the players don’t want it to happen, then it wouldn’t pass
 

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Ok, i understand now. They should change that, and kick them out of the league instead. We wouldnt have signed zeke early and to a bad contract if this had been done


what would have been done?? zekes allegations were never proven,

in fact the investigator said they believed the woman was lying and couldn't prove it and recommended zeke NOT BE SUSPENDED..

yet RG suspended him anyway..it was wrong..

there were never any criminal charges, lawyers, or any thing but he said she said vindictive scorned EX upset zeke dumped her rights after he got paid his first money, she missed the golden goose..

its was all allegation that never went anywhere legal...

saying zeke situation would have been handled differently is FALSE,,very different situation then Watsons, period...

everyone knows zeke was robbed of those games it was the worst suspension of RG career and since then hes been a lot less quick to give put 6 games over an false allegation.
 

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Problem is the players are a lot more important to the league than the owners. The nfl knows this... If the players don’t want it to happen, then it wouldn’t pass

That I do not agree with. You can say "current players" who already have rich pockets are more valuable, but not "players" in general. If they caused a storm and lost major players and took a possible revenue loss for a year or two, a magical thing would happen. A brand new group of players with empty pockets would arrive, and old players who had not managed their money well would rethink things.
 

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what would have been done?? zekes allegations were never proven,

in fact the investigator said they believed the woman was lying and couldn't prove it and recommended zeke NOT BE SUSPENDED..

yet RG suspended him anyway..it was wrong..

there were never any criminal charges, lawyers, or any thing but he said she said vindictive scorned EX upset zeke dumped her rights after he got paid his first money, she missed the golden goose..

its was all allegation that never went anywhere legal...

saying zeke situation would have been handled differently is FALSE,,very different situation then Watsons, period...

everyone knows zeke was robbed of those games it was the worst suspension of RG career and since then hes been a lot less quick to give put 6 games over an false allegation.

I just don't think they should have signed zeke to a second contract. They should definetly not have given him a new contract when he still had 2 years to play under his rookie contract. I would have ran him into the ground then let him go. He held out and they paid him early

I wasn't even thinking of allegations
 

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I just don't think they should have signed zeke to a second contract. They should definetly not have given him a new contract when he still had 2 years to play under his rookie contract. I would have ran him into the ground then let him go. He held out and they paid him early

I wasn't even thinking of allegations
dont care just saying no matter the rules or new rules zekes not in the category of even coming close to having his contract torn up or thrown out of the league..sorry it is not even close to the same situation..get over it
 

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dont care just saying no matter the rules or new rules zekes not in the category of even coming close to having his contract torn up or thrown out of the league..sorry it is not even close to the same situation..get over it

if the rules were changed to players who held out being kicked out of the league, the zeke situation would have gone differently

1. he wouldnt have held out
2. he would have played 2 more years on his rookie contract
 

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dont care just saying no matter the rules or new rules zekes not in the category of even coming close to having his contract torn up or thrown out of the league..sorry it is not even close to the same situation..get over it
He's our bubba and our hope should be that he plays his bootie off this year to the max.
That's it and that's all.

I get the gripes, but it is what it is.
 

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That I do not agree with. You can say "current players" who already have rich pockets are more valuable, but not "players" in general. If they caused a storm and lost major players and took a possible revenue loss for a year or two, a magical thing would happen. A brand new group of players with empty pockets would arrive, and old players who had not managed their money well would rethink things.

Okay let’s create a scenario:

The NFL no longer wants the NFLPA and their litigations. So they break with them and start anew.

The problem is the NFLPA is a union, meaning every player was under contract through that union. If the NFL wants to break off from the NFLPA, they would be voiding each and every players’ contract... in the entire NFL. Now the NFL has absolute autonomy, can do anything they want to the players. Why would the players be okay with this? They wouldn’t. So they get new executives who set up a make shift league, not unlike the XFL or the USFL. Difference? They have all the NFL players.

so in 12 months time we have a Super Bowl played by the Green Bay Packers and the Cleveland Browns. The starting QBs are a guy from the arena league and a guy from the indoor football league. Players who never even saw the nfl because they weren’t particularly good in college. It’s a sloppy game, lots of turnovers.

Now to the upstart league’s championship, the Tempe Tomcats with Russell Wilson throwing to Odell Beckham and Julio Jones, vs the New Hampshire Hampsters, with Tom Brady and Aaron Donald going on a torrid pace through the whole league.

Which game do you think people would want to watch? The sponsors go with the audience, all the money would be in the new league in a matter of months. Suddenly the 3b$ NFL teams aren’t even worth 300m$.

The players are the league. It’s already happening in the NBA, they have guaranteed contracts and just say when they’re done playing for a team. What can the league do? Tell them they don’t need that player? They absolutely do, it’s their entire profit model.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t root for Jeffrey Lurie. I root for my guys
 

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