News: PFT: Watson still wants a trade

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Aerolithe_Lion said:
Okay let’s create a scenario:

The NFL no longer wants the NFLPA and their litigations. So they break with them and start anew.

The problem is the NFLPA is a union, meaning every player was under contract through that union. If the NFL wants to break off from the NFLPA, they would be voiding each and every players’ contract... in the entire NFL. Now the NFL has absolute autonomy, can do anything they want to the players. Why would the players be okay with this? They wouldn’t. So they get new executives who set up a make shift league, not unlike the XFL or the USFL. Difference? They have all the NFL players.

so in 12 months time we have a Super Bowl played by the Green Bay Packers and the Cleveland Browns. The starting QBs are a guy from the arena league and a guy from the indoor football league. Players who never even saw the nfl because they weren’t particularly good in college. It’s a sloppy game, lots of turnovers.

Now to the upstart league’s championship, the Tempe Tomcats with Russell Wilson throwing to Odell Beckham and Julio Jones, vs the New Hampshire Hampsters, with Tom Brady and Aaron Donald going on a torrid pace through the whole league.

Which game do you think people would want to watch? The sponsors go with the audience, all the money would be in the new league in a matter of months. Suddenly the 3b$ NFL teams aren’t even worth 300m$.

The players are the league. It’s already happening in the NBA, they have guaranteed contracts and just say when they’re done playing for a team. What can the league do? Tell them they don’t need that player? They absolutely do, it’s their entire profit model.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t root for Jeffrey Lurie. I root for my guys
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Not to that extent of breaking with the nflpa, but there are negotiations. I find it hard to believe, that there is no way to get it done to where players cany hurt their team and other players by holding out.

As you can tell by my previous posts, I am not an expert. I also don't see why a large amount of the players would have a problem with this. Especially the ones that don't play QB and DE. I would think every player but watson on the texans, wants him to shutup and play
 
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dsturgeon said:
Not to that extent of breaking with the nflpa, but there are negotiations. I find it hard to believe, that there is no way to get it done to where players cany hurt their team and other players by holding out.

As you can tell by my previous posts, I am not an expert. I also don't see why a large amount of the players would have a problem with this. Especially the ones that don't play QB and DE. I would think every player but watson on the texans, wants him to shutup and play
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It’s the same on the other side though, why does the league have the ability to break a contract they agreed to but a player doesn’t?
 
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dsturgeon said:
does gaurenteed money not account for this. i don't know the wording or obligations on the contracts
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Yeah, I think that’s why they don’t have fully guaranteed contracts like Baseball and Basketball. So the teams can cut bait whenever they want, but it also gives the players an out too. Once their guarantees dry up and they’re only on salary, the agreement is flimsy just as it is to the team
 
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you find out about a player after you sign them to a big deal.

Watson is a dummy, that's why he is in trouble off the field, and now what he is doing football wise is not smart either.
Other owners are not going to want a guy that turned on his team so quickly, and is making all sorts of demands.
He makes too much , and wont take a cut in pay, and he is not a proven winner.
 
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dsturgeon said:
if the rules were changed to players who held out being kicked out of the league, the zeke situation would have gone differently

1. he wouldnt have held out
2. he would have played 2 more years on his rookie contract
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says you we will never know and i doubt it.

next....

revisionist historians here have the payers the het theta they keep living in the past hoping it can be changed...:popcorn:

it CAN NOT! MOVE ON!:rolleyes:o_O;)
 
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Corso said:
He's our bubba and our hope should be that he plays his bootie off this year to the max.
That's it and that's all.

I get the gripes, but it is what it is.
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Zzeke had ONE BAD Year, HAPPENS TO COINCIDE WITH A HISTORICALLY BAD DEFENSE, USING a 3RD STRING OL, 4 QBS, HE RECOVERED FROM COVID AND HAD SOME INUJRIES HE TRIED PLAYING THROUGH..

those down on him because of his 4.0YPG dont watch football and for sure do NOT have recollection of backs like zeke aka volume bell cow 3 down backs ie Emmitt and others all share one thing, keep feeding them they will come through but many and im talking some of the biggest names backs in history had many years with their YOC averages at 4 or even under , Smith had HALF his career years at 4 or under..odd this is zekes worst season and yet if circumstances would have been viable for RB especially volume back he would have got his carries and got his typical 1300+ yards and a nice TD count..

fact is when you play from behind to pint where the run game has to be ignored, when you have bad OL, a non threatening QB and other factors the run game gets dismissed

Furthermore Zeke started to become overlooked and underutilized in 2019 when KM decoded to cage the identity from Zekes team to daks team and became pass happy , add to it his run schemes are terrible, he used far too many delayed draws, obvious run plays so vanilla they were truly mean for a FB not a bell cow volume RB

more facts , Zeke led the league in 2019 in frost half productivity ie YPOC and yet Moore abandoned the run in the second half's, he had games last year where you could see old zeke at time's..

it was one down year with obvious reasons for the lack of productivity..
 
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blueblood70 said:
says you we will never know and i doubt it.

next....

revisionist historians here have the payers the het theta they keep living in the past hoping it can be changed...:popcorn:

it CAN NOT! MOVE ON!:rolleyes:o_O;)
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don't reply to peoples posts, you are living in the past, move on with new ideas, and never dwell on previous posts
 
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dsturgeon said:
don't reply to peoples posts, you are living in the past, move on with new ideas, and never dwell on previous posts
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good try but FAIL

but harping on 3 yr old contract hoping it never happened is the issue , deflecting wont work..get over it get passed it zeke got paid and you cant take it back..

if if and butts were candy and nuts, well everyday would be Christmas...:muttley::popcorn:


but you mostly are just butts with side order of Nuts :lmao:
 
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zekes problem is not his pay, it is over paying at the rb position.
blueblood70 said:
good try but FAIL

but harping on 3 yr old contract hoping it never happened is the issue , deflecting wont work..get over it get passed it zeke got paid and you cant take it back..

if if and butts were candy and nuts, well everyday would be Christmas...:muttley::popcorn:


but you mostly are just butts with side order of Nuts :lmao:
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Zeke's contract correlates with watson, because he held out for it, and watson is holding out to be traded. It was an example used to strengthen my point and tie it in with cowboys, about how I don't like players holding out for those reasons.

That is not what I call harping, but i will leave it at that
 
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And I want to be independently wealthy. But we don't always get what we want do we? Maybe Watson is just now learning this.
 
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What owner is going to take a chance on a player under investigation at 39M a year?

22 cases that they know of and we haven't heard the whole story yet. This isn't a case of some bad behavior, this guy has some serious problems and getting traded isn't going to fix them.
 
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