News: Mickey: Backup QB Dilemma Brewing

Jipper · May 24, 2021

Reid1boys said:
Minshew has been a starter for more of his career than he has been a backup. He started 14 games in his rookie year because the starter went down. So if the guy has started more than not, is he a back up?
Fitzpatric is a starter in this league... period.
So the bears used a 1st rd pick so they could develop a back up?
Brisset was traded for to be a starter, not a back up.

Mullens is only legit back up on the list IMO. At his current age, if he doesnt start, I would call him the best "Back up," in the league..... but he is NOT a back up.

Being a "starter" and starting are two different things...a good backup is a lower caliber starting qb just like Dalton was.

Cowpolk · May 24, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Young, Favre, Rodgers, Brady and Staubach.

And the only player that made Tom curse Danny White

ABQCOWBOY · May 24, 2021

catiii said:
What happened to Gilbert? Can they not develop him? OH ...right...this is the Cowboys.
He played great against Pitt the best D in the NFL even though we lost. He's got potential!!! Why are we looking for another retread!!??

Was gonna post but everybody pretty much said what i was going to post so I'll save it. Suffice to say that I am a Texas Fan, pretty much my whole life. I have no agenda with Gilbert. He is what he is.

quickccc · May 24, 2021

i see many are knocking rookie Ben DiNucci, but i just cannot be down on a rookie QB coming into the NFL level, who was severely limited with zero OTA's, very limited in reps in
training camp, and zero preseason games, ..but the coaches like him so much to take a single game stab at him starting primetime vs Eagles.

Understandably he was overwhelmed. He needs plenty seasoning, reps and game experience. He's not near ready to be an instant 2nd string backup, but he's given
considerable camp reps, preseason, he could develop into that kind of emergency QB,

Apparently at draft time Cowboys thought a lot about his physical tools, mobility, his poise and savvy.
Give him ample time and preparation before deciding he's just another Mike White.

Reid1boys · May 24, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Does anyone here really think a backup QB matters for this team? Plenty were happy they got Dalton last year, how'd that work out?

They can't afford a vet, if a good one was available. How much can they allocate to a position they hope never takes the field?

If QB1 goes down and out, it's Draft Talk time.

IMO, only Fitzpatrick is a guy that could have come in as a backup and lit it up. If you dont have fitz on your bench, forget about it, season is over.

Mr_437 · May 24, 2021

It's gonna be a struggle enough to win with Dak. Backup QB isn't important. Keep stacking defense.

CouchCoach · May 24, 2021

Reid1boys said:
IMO, only Fitzpatrick is a guy that could have come in as a backup and lit it up. If you dont have fitz on your bench, forget about it, season is over.

He is a spark plug for sure.

Verdict · May 24, 2021

ninja said:
I don’t see any dilemma other than how many QBs to keep on the roster. Gilbert, Rush, or Dinucci will be the backup. Do the Cowboys keep 3 QBs on the roster like last year? Needed to especially with covid.

Does Dinucci develop enough to push for a roster spot? If not, can Dinucci go to the PS?

I think Dinucci develops and shows something and will be the backup next year. Just got to get through this year. I think Gilbert can be that bridge.

They don’t need 3 of Gilbert, Rush and DiNucci. The latter two suck, based on what we have seen so far. The jury may still be out on Gilbert. If they want to keep one of the three and add another that might make sense but two people who suck (Rush and DiNucci) are not bringing anything to the party.

TwoCentPlain · May 24, 2021

Verdict said:
They don’t need 3 of Gilbert, Rush and DiNucci. The latter two suck, based on what we have seen so far. The jury may still be out on Gilbert. If they want to keep one of the three and add another that might make sense but two people who suck (Rush and DiNucci) are not bringing anything to the party.

They will keep one of the 3 as the backup. DiNucci might be on the PS if they can get him there. If he shows something in preseason, then he will be poached.

Romo wasn’t bringing anything to the party his first two years.

Might have to keep 3 if covid still lurking around.

blueblood70 · May 24, 2021

fivetwos said:
As far as Gilbert, I point to a couple of things....

Pittsburgh didn't really show up that day. They were heavily favored. There was also little film on him.

He is almost 30 years old and never stuck anywhere for a reason.

The backup QB is a catch 22. If Dak goes down and the season is lost, you kinda want a not so great backup for certain reasons in the future (see team tank)....but what of you lose Dak for seven games, and he is 8-2 in the games he plays.

A team would figure to want someone capable of going 3-4 and saving the season.

Personally I don't think a move is needed and all in all, just roll with Gilbert.

DiNucci is safe as #3. The guy should at least get some preseason reps this year. MM always keeps a younger guy to develop.

Think about it....the guy was asked to start in Philly last year without ever having taken a preseason snap in his life. Played at James Madison.

He had zero shot in that game now he is completely written off by fans. Has a shot to be an OK backup.

Rush reminds me of Garrett in 12 different ways so no need for that lol....

Prescott....Gilbert....Nooch.

we are pretty much in agreement, just saying if for some crazy reason we are contending & lose da, feel GG cant get it done we can go grab a retired or semi retired vet with more to give things lie teams have done with Mccown etc ..im not concerned about it at this point..

Jake · May 24, 2021

Teague31 said:
So irrelevant. Dak goes down the season is over

What if he goes down for 2 weeks? Those 2 games could be the difference between playoffs or not, so you want to at least be able to compete.

Obviously, you're not getting a guy good enough to win if Dak's gone the entire season. If he was that good he'd already be starting somewhere.

john van brocklin · May 24, 2021

jazzcat22 said:
https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-backup-qb-dilemma-still-brewing

Mickey talks about back up QB's. Who is or may become available.

Not really many out there, and if any come free later on. Other teams will be looking at them as well.

Sparce

conner01 · May 24, 2021

catiii said:
What happened to Gilbert? Can they not develop him? OH ...right...this is the Cowboys.
He played great against Pitt the best D in the NFL even though we lost. He's got potential!!! Why are we looking for another retread!!??

He’s 29
It’s not like he’s a rookie player
The mistake was not seeing him more last year instead of dalton
In one game he looked decent but chances are the other teams who’ve looked at him over his years, didn’t see enough to develop him back then

St. Louis Rams (2014)* New England Patriots (2014–2015)* Detroit Lions (2015)* Oakland Raiders (2015–2016)* Carolina Panthers (2017–2018) Orlando Apollos (2019) Cleveland Browns (2019–2020) Dallas Cowboys (2020–present)
Lots of teams have taken a look in the last 7 years

basel90 · May 25, 2021

Jake said:
A 6th round pick in the 2014 NFL draft,
The Cowboys are his seventh NFL team,
He's appeared in 7 regular season games,
He's made one NFL start.

It's not a mystery at all, and his one mediocre start has been overblown here because the defense and special teams actually showed up that day. In the end he threw a red zone pick and the Cowboys lost, barely completing over half of his passes on the day. He sucks.

Is he that bad or just needs playing time and confidence . ? He must have some talent if 7 teams signed him , but am not sure . That one game last year I thought he played better than dalton . But again the sample size is too small so you may be absolutely right .

basel90 · May 25, 2021

Jipper said:
no mystery....hes just not that good or that special...

- he didn't have an exemplary college career

- 6th round draft choice

- on his 8th professional team (NFL and CFL)

- Played one game last year with a 72.6 QBR

journey man 3rd type of qb....lower grade backup quality...no mystery, hes just not that good.

You could be right , but sometimes players need play time to excel , and confidence.

OmerV · May 25, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
Gilbert looked good in his one start. Better then the hapless Dalton did.

Gilbert completed 55.3% of his passes and had a 1/1 TD/INT ratio. Dalton completed 64.9% of his passes and had a 14/8TD/INT ratio.

Gilbert has a 7 year history of moving from team to team and struggling to even make a practice squad. Dalton has a 9 year history as an NFL starter.

Let's not pretend one game makes Gilbert a better player, especially since our perception of what he did in that game is colored by the fact we were surprised and shocked he did as well as he did. It was a solid game for a backup, but we see it as better than it was because the expectations were so low.

Jstopper · May 25, 2021

basel90 said:
Is he that bad or just needs playing time and confidence . ? He must have some talent if 7 teams signed him , but am not sure . That one game last year I thought he played better than dalton . But again the sample size is too small so you may be absolutely right .

Even in that 1 game his passer rating, qbr, and TD to INT ratio were all worse than Daltons last year.

kskboys · May 25, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
Are you sure you are looking at the same thing? Might be because Gilbert threw 2 picks that game?

Just googled their stats. Not sure what you mean by looking at the same thing.

CowboyRoy · May 25, 2021

OmerV said:
Gilbert completed 55.3% of his passes and had a 1/1 TD/INT ratio. Dalton completed 64.9% of his passes and had a 14/8TD/INT ratio.

Gilbert has a 7 year history of moving from team to team and struggling to even make a practice squad. Dalton has a 9 year history as an NFL starter.

Let's not pretend one game makes Gilbert a better player, especially since our perception of what he did in that game is colored by the fact we were surprised and shocked he did as well as he did. It was a solid game for a backup, but we see it as better than it was because the expectations were so low.

I liked the fact that he could use his legs and seemed to be able to get out of trouble and pressure. Didnt know anything about the guy before Dallas.

Dalton is a very good backup, dont like him starting. At 10 million, give me Gilbert. But it may have just been a flash in the pan. I have no idea.

kskboys · May 25, 2021

Redball Express said:
Cooper Rush seems like the reasonable choice as backup. He has several seasons with Moore and knows the offense by now. I do not get it. Is he all pro material? No. But he is serviceable.

He's not serviceable. Terrible arm.

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