Why Oxnard

Tabascocat said:

I live in the 805 too but from Houston. It is beautiful out here

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If you don't mind me asking are you in Slo SB or ventura county?

D_Boyz said:

If you don't mind me asking are you in Slo SB or ventura county?

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Live in Goleta, work in SB. I think that is the 805

RonnieT24 said:

I have to say I am somewhat surprised the military had already made the turn as early as the mid 80's. Lord knows when I was high school in the 70's (class of '78) they did not hesitate to send us out in the Florida 95 degree heat with 98% relative humidity and run us till we puked. Guys puked, cramped, all manner of maladies but thank the Lord nobody died and I don't think I ever even saw anyone pass out from the heat. But then we had all grown up in that climate. We had been kicked out of the house to "get outta my face and go play!" since we 4-5 years old. When we weren't doing football training camp were doing AAU Track and Field. I didn't even know it was POSSIBLE for anyone to actually die from heat until that kid died one summer in the late 70's or early 80's. That was when things started to change I guess.

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I'm sure you carried a thermometer with you in high school to tell you it was 95 degrees with 98% relative humidity. LOL. It's not like we carried smartphones with us back then to inform us of those details either. I'm not doubting your story I just don't trust all the details. In Texas back then I was in track training for long-distance running. Like your story, the coach ran us till we puked and then sometimes ran us some more. I share your sentiment... thank God nobody died. I am fairly positive we were forced to run in harsher temperatures in high school than I ever was in the military. But that doesn't mean the military runs I ran in weren't harder. We ran for miles with weighted backpacks, sometimes uphill, but we were safe about not doing it in the heat of the day.
I'm glad to see our Cowboys go to training camp in Oxnard and the cooler weather.

Doomsday101 said:

I don't disagree but I think it is something this team needs. You want to remove the country club atmosphere work out in the Texas Sun on 2 a days, you will find out a lot about your team and they guys you can depend on.

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Exactly. Get rid of this camp cupcake.

Maybe many of us haven't noticed that it's hotter than hell in Texas!
Landry had enough sense to realize that. Perhaps you should too?!

Its called 70 degrees

Established1971 said:

last time I went to Oxnard I was shocked at how bleeped up the parking lot was, the fans parking lot. It was all broken, uneven gravel, full of dust. Every car pulling out near you would send a dust cloud into your face as you were getting into your own car, then the ride out would just be bumpy all the way until you got to the road, which was far as it was a huge lot. What the heck would it cost to pave the darn thing? One game check for the back up long snapper?

Has that been fixed since 2015?

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the lot is smaller. You have to take a shuttle from Oxnard high school during the first week of camp. Too many people.

a housing development has taken most of the empty space around the fields.

they now use saw dust on what’s left of the parking.

there is also a parking fee. I thinks it is 10 or 20 per day.

it’s worth it though.

Risen Star said:

Spoken by a man who has never experienced a Texas summer.

I'd rather my team focus on football in camp rather than not dying of heat stroke.

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Jimmy Johnson would disagree with you though. LOL

Kid wants to go. Great, now I gotta deal with crowds and such....

Liked it better in the early 2000's, when the net was just starting and the Cowboys really sucked. Hardly anyone there.

Tabascocat said:

Live in Goleta, work in SB. I think that is the 805

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I actually work in Goleta. Horrible traffic, beautiful weather.

JoeKing said:

LOL, I'm sure you are remembering it exactly as you are saying but child please stop lying. I was in the military those years as well and the regulations were there too. You worked up a sweat, god bless you. Thank you for your service. Stop lying.

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Call me a liar then thank me for my service ***. On black flag or really hot days we got dogged hard. No officer in sight, it was full go and you didn't see officers very often.

JoeKing said:

I'm sure you carried a thermometer with you in high school to tell you it was 95 degrees with 98% relative humidity. LOL. It's not like we carried smartphones with us back then to inform us of those details either. I'm not doubting your story I just don't trust all the details. In Texas back then I was in track training for long-distance running. Like your story, the coach ran us till we puked and then sometimes ran us some more. I share your sentiment... thank God nobody died. I am fairly positive we were forced to run in harsher temperatures in high school than I ever was in the military. But that doesn't mean the military runs I ran in weren't harder. We ran for miles with weighted backpacks, sometimes uphill, but we were safe about not doing it in the heat of the day.
I'm glad to see our Cowboys go to training camp in Oxnard and the cooler weather.

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It was Central Florida in August.. You didn't need a thermometer or barometer to know what the weather was like. The weather man would confirm what we felt out there every night on the newscast. But of course not EVERY day had the same weather.. I was obviously speaking in general. The funny part was that during two-a-days we'd do the helmet and shells practice at 8 am .. go home for a couple of hours then come back to do full padded practice in the afternoon when it was at its hottest. Our coaches were idiots! LOL! Obviously the military runs were different from football practice. Football is a lot more stopping and starting, change of direction and of course trying to move forward while another large and very strong human is holding onto you trying to stop you from doing so. It just requires a different set of muscles and a different type of conditioning. When I got into my early 30's and decided that I could no longer go driving around town in search of a sandlot tackle football game I started playing in flag football leagues. A torn meniscus and partial MCL tear while making a tackle taught me that I was no longer indestructible. It was a good two years before I started playing flag football so even though I had been continuing to run competitive track and field and thought I was in good shape I had not played football for two years. I could not believe how sore my quads and hams were after the first game. The task of all that stopping and starting and cutting and backpedaling woke up muscles I had not really taxed on the track. It took 5-6 weeks for them to build up to playing football again.. The good news was because of the training on the track I was "in the best shape of my life."

I don’t think I subscribe to the working out in insane heat thing anymore.

I just don’t think it’s necessary with the modern NFL and modern training and practicing techniques.

plus as some have said. You can overdo it with the heat and then the team comes out with dead legs early in the season.

DakPresgoat said:

I don’t think I subscribe to the working out in insane heat thing anymore.

I just don’t think it’s necessary with the modern NFL and modern training and practicing techniques.

plus as some have said. You can overdo it with the heat and then the team comes out with dead legs early in the season.

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Amen.. not everything about the olden days was "better." There's a reason why the best high school runners are running times that would have won the Olympics a couple/three generations ago. We are getting smarter about training and nutrition. I do think they need to incorporate more contact into modern practices because I firmly believe guys need to learn how to hit and be hit BEFORE the first real game kicks off. No one will ever convince me the prevalence of early season injuries is not because a lot of these guys have not actually hit the turf in any meaningful action since the last game of the previous season. Call it toughening up or whatever you want but it has been stated many times and I believe it to be an absolute truth, "the only way to get ready to play football is to play football. "

wrongway said:

Call me a liar then thank me for my service ***. On black flag or really hot days we got dogged hard. No officer in sight, it was full go and you didn't see officers very often.

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Your memory deceives you. Didn't happen that way. This same phenomenon is how innocent people are convicted for crimes they did not commit.

fivetwos said:

Curious enough to ask but not enough to find out on my own.....

What do the Texans do for camp?

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Alaska !!!!!!

Jerry is trying to get more Cali fans which boost his revenues.

erod said:

Oh, they need it. They're just not allowed to do it anymore per the CBA.

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Question is why does the players union want camps so soft?

Given the limits the NFL/NFLPA have in place for workouts you would not have to worry about dead legs coming out of training camp because of heat.

Hoofbite said:

Yeah, it's one thing to practice in the heat, which is less than ideal. It's another to expect people to watch said practice when it's scorching out.

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yet they go to TC in August in Texas