Has the owner/GM changed his thinking?

75boyz

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Well Mikey made some horrid calls as well. Just awful . Unlike we’d ever seen before.

The bigger question might be is would he have survived going 6-10 with Dak. Remember he was 1-3 with Dak.

Good post.
Your question may be better suited for a more pro #4 guy which I'm not.

Ultimately the blame traces back to my earlier post about accountability.

All boils down to individual opinion upon whom to hold most accountable for wins and losses.

Player, coach or management

Jerry ain't firing himself or his newly paid marketing toy QB. So there's 2 that skate by without any team blame.

That leaves McCheese to take one for the team.

You know the drill.
Gotta scapegoat somebody.

With regards to McCarthy though, he has earned his share of the pink slip.

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I think it was a combination of factors...

1)New scheme, new DC, new HC—first year is usually the roughest.
2)Less prep time, no TC, Covid—intensifying #1.
3)An offense decimated by injury, putting the weak D on the field even longer.
4)Lack of talent on D.
5)The wrong DC.
Yep, absent all that, we were Super Bowl caliber! :)
 

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I've seen several comments about the owner not making coaching changes and using the 10 years with Garrett as the reasoning but is it just the opposite? He waited for it to come and it never did. His patience went unrewarded.

Has the fact that he's not getting any younger and a year closer to checking out every year affected his thinking about time and how much there is left to see another SB?

Some feel McC is safe but they pulled the trigger on Nolan after one year and now have two succession candidates on the staff and who thinks the owner won't pull a Garrett move with Kellen Moore?

I really do think we are seeing a new sense of urgency, an awareness of the clock that we've not seen before from him and I do not think that bodes well for McC. He needs a kickstart to this season or we could see the second HC replaced during the season.

The fans are impatient and last season was more embarrassing than a lot of losing seasons. So, the owner is impatient too.

And what do you think the players think? Who brought Nolan in last season and who allowed the defense to get turned inside out? Think there might also be some impatient players?

I think McC has a ticket on the 3:10 to Yuma that he is unaware of and if he starts off 1-3, that train pulls into the station and if he goes to 2-6, his ticket gets punched. I know, some feel not unless he's lost the team. At 2-5 or 6, he's lost the team and management. No GM pays a QB this much and assembles this O to go 2-5 or 6.

The other NFL owners have been getting more itchy trigger fingers with HC's every season and now I think this owner has joined their ranks.

McC better win or pack it in.

Our owner is able to think ?
 

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Yep, when you lose your starting QB you either need a suitable replacement or an Elite defense. Otherwise your dead in the water.
The shelves are thin with BU QBs, guys like Fitz gets a starting gig. Outside of a trade, best bet is to develop your own in house, or wait for vet cuts late at this point.
 

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I think the change is more about the market, but his age probably does enter in to his decisions. Jerry knows the Cowboys are relying mainly on lifelong fans/rivals at this point. They aren't picking up new subscribers and that will eventually hurt his profits.
 

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I've seen several comments about the owner not making coaching changes and using the 10 years with Garrett as the reasoning but is it just the opposite? He waited for it to come and it never did. His patience went unrewarded.

Has the fact that he's not getting any younger and a year closer to checking out every year affected his thinking about time and how much there is left to see another SB?

Some feel McC is safe but they pulled the trigger on Nolan after one year and now have two succession candidates on the staff and who thinks the owner won't pull a Garrett move with Kellen Moore?

I really do think we are seeing a new sense of urgency, an awareness of the clock that we've not seen before from him and I do not think that bodes well for McC. He needs a kickstart to this season or we could see the second HC replaced during the season.

The fans are impatient and last season was more embarrassing than a lot of losing seasons. So, the owner is impatient too.

And what do you think the players think? Who brought Nolan in last season and who allowed the defense to get turned inside out? Think there might also be some impatient players?

I think McC has a ticket on the 3:10 to Yuma that he is unaware of and if he starts off 1-3, that train pulls into the station and if he goes to 2-6, his ticket gets punched. I know, some feel not unless he's lost the team. At 2-5 or 6, he's lost the team and management. No GM pays a QB this much and assembles this O to go 2-5 or 6.

The other NFL owners have been getting more itchy trigger fingers with HC's every season and now I think this owner has joined their ranks.

McC better win or pack it in.

If the Owner/GM really changed his thinking he'd step down tomorrow and let his son hire a GM, which we all know isn't going to happen.

He's just not waiting as long to fire his scapegoats.
 

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Let's assume none of us knows the details of his contract and let's remember he was looking and not in high demand when he interviewed.

As long as you are assuming to know the contract terms, I will assume that one of the elements to this that sold Booger on the deal was McC's willingness to be flexible on the contract. I think there is a buyout and it's not a guaranteed contract for the full amount or the full term. I think it can be if certain goals are met. I assume that is a heavily incentive laden contract.

And as long as we're assuming, let's assume the reason Moore is there was a gift to Booger to cement the deal.

Do you really think an unemployed coach Booger doesn't know is going to show up for an interview and in 12 hours sell him on giving him a guaranteed 5 X 8M contract?

Pretty common knowledge that the HCs, DCs, and OCs have guaranteed contracts. Gruden got 10 years 100M guaranteed if I remember correctly. Even most college coaches have guarantees. There may be offset language in McCarthy's contract but I would guess he has a fully guaranteed contract. You think Jerry is going to lowball coaches? Jerry pays top buck for players and most likely pays top buck for coaches.

You make a lot of assumptions to attack the person you call 'Booger' living in your brain rent free.

From what I remember, McCarthy was slated to be on the Giants' radar. I believe other teams were interested.
 

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The shelves are thin with BU QBs, guys like Fitz gets a starting gig. Outside of a trade, best bet is to develop your own in house, or wait for vet cuts late at this point.
Development is fine but I’d recommend drafting one in mid rounds than off the practice squad. And a seasoned veteran off waivers might be ok.
 

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Development is fine but I’d recommend drafting one in mid rounds than off the practice squad. And a seasoned veteran off waiver wire might be ok.
Oh, Im in agreement, I misinterpreted and thought we were talking currently standing situation.
Current roster situation.
 

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I've seen several comments about the owner not making coaching changes and using the 10 years with Garrett as the reasoning but is it just the opposite? He waited for it to come and it never did. His patience went unrewarded.

Has the fact that he's not getting any younger and a year closer to checking out every year affected his thinking about time and how much there is left to see another SB?

Some feel McC is safe but they pulled the trigger on Nolan after one year and now have two succession candidates on the staff and who thinks the owner won't pull a Garrett move with Kellen Moore?

I really do think we are seeing a new sense of urgency, an awareness of the clock that we've not seen before from him and I do not think that bodes well for McC. He needs a kickstart to this season or we could see the second HC replaced during the season.

The fans are impatient and last season was more embarrassing than a lot of losing seasons. So, the owner is impatient too.

And what do you think the players think? Who brought Nolan in last season and who allowed the defense to get turned inside out? Think there might also be some impatient players?

I think McC has a ticket on the 3:10 to Yuma that he is unaware of and if he starts off 1-3, that train pulls into the station and if he goes to 2-6, his ticket gets punched. I know, some feel not unless he's lost the team. At 2-5 or 6, he's lost the team and management. No GM pays a QB this much and assembles this O to go 2-5 or 6.

The other NFL owners have been getting more itchy trigger fingers with HC's every season and now I think this owner has joined their ranks.

McC better win or pack it in.

first off NO MM wont get fires early in the season, if at all in season but after the season , a change might be made sooner but its not because Jerrys older , more so because MM was a VET coach that was expected to come in and win early..Garett was very young first time HC and was given more TIME to learn OTJ type deal. Garett kept buying years when he would have very good season win the division make the playoffs it bought him time...MM is not that guy..

now if newer young up and coming coach, hope its not KM, comes in the could get 5-7 years..2018 most likely ended differently he would have been let go but turning it around and beating Seatle in the playoffs bought him time..
 

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Yep, absent all that, we were Super Bowl caliber! :)

With super bowl caliber crybabies in the fanbase!
You see Jethro as running his franchise the same as the rest? Or just your Homeristic colors flying out in defense of our owner.
”Homeristic”?!? Just because I said the league is run by narcissistic billionaires? That makes me a JJ defender?!? That’s funny! 31 owners are noble common folk who love the sport and its fans, but Jerry Jones is the embodiment of Satan! Everyone knows that your personal hatred for Jerry colors everything you say about the Dallas Cowboys, so why should I say or do ANYTHING other than chuckle and roll my eyes?

How do you manage to deal with the helpless/hopeless knowledge that you can NEVER do ANYTHING about JJ’s status as owner/operator? Sucks to be you, huh?
 

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With super bowl caliber crybabies in the fanbase!

”Homeristic”?!? Just because I said the league is run by narcissistic billionaires? That makes me a JJ defender?!? That’s funny! 31 owners are noble common folk who love the sport and its fans, but Jerry Jones is the embodiment of Satan! Everyone knows that your personal hatred for Jerry colors everything you say about the Dallas Cowboys, so why should I say or do ANYTHING other than chuckle and roll my eyes?

How do you manage to deal with the helpless/hopeless knowledge that you can NEVER do ANYTHING about JJ’s status as owner/operator? Sucks to be you, huh?
It’s very difficult to deal with Jethro as our idiot owner for our beloved local franchise . Similar to how it felt with our former blithering idiot running our country .

And I wouldn’t place the rest of the NFL owners in same category as ours. First of all I’m not familiar with them all so can’t say. But not all wealthy or billionaires are narcissistic.
 
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It’s very difficult to deal with Jethro as our idiot owner for our beloved local franchise . Similar to how it felt with our former blithering idiot running our country .

And I wouldn’t place the rest of the NFL owners in same category as ours. First of all I’m not familiar with them all so can’t say. But not all wealthy or billionaires are narcissistic.

It’s difficult for YOU, not me! It’s football, a game, and I enjoy it! Have a good time with your hate, anger, nonstop speculation and angst! Most of us are chuckling at your impotence.
 

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I've seen several comments about the owner not making coaching changes and using the 10 years with Garrett as the reasoning but is it just the opposite? He waited for it to come and it never did. His patience went unrewarded.

Has the fact that he's not getting any younger and a year closer to checking out every year affected his thinking about time and how much there is left to see another SB?

Some feel McC is safe but they pulled the trigger on Nolan after one year and now have two succession candidates on the staff and who thinks the owner won't pull a Garrett move with Kellen Moore?

I really do think we are seeing a new sense of urgency, an awareness of the clock that we've not seen before from him and I do not think that bodes well for McC. He needs a kickstart to this season or we could see the second HC replaced during the season.

The fans are impatient and last season was more embarrassing than a lot of losing seasons. So, the owner is impatient too.

And what do you think the players think? Who brought Nolan in last season and who allowed the defense to get turned inside out? Think there might also be some impatient players?

I think McC has a ticket on the 3:10 to Yuma that he is unaware of and if he starts off 1-3, that train pulls into the station and if he goes to 2-6, his ticket gets punched. I know, some feel not unless he's lost the team. At 2-5 or 6, he's lost the team and management. No GM pays a QB this much and assembles this O to go 2-5 or 6.

The other NFL owners have been getting more itchy trigger fingers with HC's every season and now I think this owner has joined their ranks.

McC better win or pack it in.

There's already the perception that McCarthy is more of a walk around coach than he is the cornerstone,

- there is already the perception brewing that Kellen Moore runs the entire offense, it's his to command and Mccarthy is either choosing to be hands off. or the Jones are " recommending" McCarthy (behind close quarters) .. to be hands off ...

- there's already the perception brewing that the heir apparent HC will be Kellen Moore as the Jones are envisioning him to be their version of a young Sean Payton.

- Should the season somehow blow up in McCarthy face and were somehow 1-9, i believe that either Moore or Quinn would take over as interim HC, i could see thsi mid season going like the Garrett taking over for fired wade phillips .. or if McCarthy makes it thru the season

- it will be like the Rams HC situation when Diccckk Vermeil suddenly retired after winning the SB with OC
hot market OC Mike Martz immediately announced as the new HC, ....
(rumors swirled that Jerry was about to pursue Martz as new HC after firing Campo.)
 

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Hazey, is that you? Doesn’t sound like the logical, reasonable analysis you usually provide. I don’t like Jerry as a GM either, but NO planning and NO vision?!?

Jerry’s a gambler, meddler, control freak, and attentionwhore with a giant ego. His pressers are embarrassing, and he’s so loyal to certain players and coaches that it’s hurt the team, but methinks you sound a tad like Erod or something!
Ha! Well, maybe I’m a little grouchy this week. Had some family challenges.
 
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