Success of season rest on Daks health

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2021

Rockport said:
And you're clearly a Dak hater no matter what you say. It's all you do is crap on Dak. Every day, every thread and about every post.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 10, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
You are clearly more of a Dak fan then you are a Cowboys fan.

You throw out all logic, stats, numbers, etc, all while throwing the entire team under the bus when your play your mental gymnastics trying to defend him.

In your head. I threw Jason Garrett and the defense under the bus. You lack football IQ if you think Dak is holding this team back.

Motorola · Jun 10, 2021

Diehardblues said:
The same concerns we always have with those with injury history. Once you have a history of injury there is always concern.

One major injury does not lead to other injuries happening for every player

Diehardblues said:
The same concerns we always have with those with injury history. Once you have a history of injury there is always concern.

Or we can hope it will be a one-time thing. Perhaps Prescott can return to have a career similar to two other QBs in terms of durability:
Tom Brady - had that knee injury in the 2008 opener and missed the rest of that season, but returned in 2009 and has not missed a game (except for four due to suspension at the start of 2012) in the 12 seasons that followed.
Matt Ryan - in his 13-season career so far, he has missed only 3 games...and this is despite him getting sacked 42, 48, and 41 times the last 3 years respectively.

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2021

rocyaice said:
In your head. I threw Jason Garrett and the defense under the bus. You lack football IQ if you think Dak is holding this team back.

Ahh the old "I can't logically defend my points with anything of substances so I'll use the old you lack football IQ" take.

That's one of my favorites. It lets me know when the debate is over due to not being able to logically defend your terrible points. Bye now.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 10, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
Ahh the old "I can't logically defend my points with anything of substances so I'll use the old you lack football IQ" take.

That's one of my favorites. It lets me know when the debate is over due to not being able to logically defend your terrible points. Bye now.

One of your favorites...so I guess you've been told this a lot lol.....not shocked.

jazzcat22 · Jun 10, 2021

Diehardblues said:
If he can stay upright for 17 games we should win the division. I’m not sure he can though with the injury concerns of our OL.

And in the event Dak does miss some time doesn’t look like we’ve addressed our backup QB adequately either. These are my biggest concerns.

But if Dak can remain healthy lighting up this offense and our defense is improved to at least top 20 instead of worst we could make some noise.

The NFC once you get past Tampa and a Green Bay with Rodgers, is fair game.

Dak's injury was not due to the OL. It happened when he was running for a 1st down.

CouchCoach · Jun 10, 2021

The Cowboys have been QB dependent for years, going back to Romo and their failure to build a team around him. But they're not alone, GB did that with Rodgers and NO with Brees. The difference with Manning in IND and DEN was the team built around him. He didn't play near as well in DEN but well enough.

There is light at the end of this tunnel because just as they woke up and realized they needed an OL, I think this past season they did the same with the defense. Still have to have that trigger man.

I agree with the OP, so goes the health of the QB and OL, so goes this season. There is always concern when older OL start to miss games because that doesn't seem to subside and recovery and rehab take longer. I also agree that if they do stay healthy, they win the East.

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2021

rocyaice said:
One of your favorites...so I guess you've been told this a lot lol.....not shocked.

Nah, I just see you and your buddy use that line a lot on people that share different opinions. That or name calling is usually always the go to responds when you can't back up your emotional takes with anything concrete.

CouchCoach · Jun 10, 2021

rocyaice said:
There's no possible way to be a Cowboys fan and not a Dak fan. Just not. I'm a fan of the team. That means i'm a fan of these guys good or bad.

Disagree with that as I was a fan on the team and not of Irvin, Sanders, Owens, Bryant or Hardy.

bigE79 · Jun 10, 2021

Diehardblues said:
If he can stay upright for 17 games we should win the division. I’m not sure he can though with the injury concerns of our OL.

And in the event Dak does miss some time doesn’t look like we’ve addressed our backup QB adequately either. These are my biggest concerns.

But if Dak can remain healthy lighting up this offense and our defense is improved to at least top 20 instead of worst we could make some noise.

The NFC once you get past Tampa and a Green Bay with Rodgers, is fair game.

Nope,our season like every other season depends on the oline,and like you said,the injury concern with them is the biggest reason we are good or bad...they need to stay healthy.

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2021

CouchCoach said:
The Cowboys have been QB dependent for years, going back to Romo and their failure to build a team around him. But they're not alone, GB did that with Rodgers and NO with Brees. The difference with Manning in IND and DEN was the team built around him. He didn't play near as well in DEN but well enough.

There is light at the end of this tunnel because just as they woke up and realized they needed an OL, I think this past season they did the same with the defense. Still have to have that trigger man.

I agree with the OP, so goes the health of the QB and OL, so goes this season. There is always concern when older OL start to miss games because that doesn't seem to subside and recovery and rehab take longer. I also agree that if they do stay healthy, they win the East.

The problem with that is that don't seem to realize they need it all at the same time. When they realize they need defense then that O-Line is now a questions mark. It's like they just can't put all the pieces together at once. When they realize what is needed then another part of the team is starting to regress.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 10, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Disagree with that as I was a fan on the team and not of Irvin, Sanders, Owens, Bryant or Hardy.

I disagree.

You may not have liked Irvin but there was no way you saw him score on Sundays and you just sat there pissed off lol.

I'm not saying you have to go out and buy these guys jerseys but if as fan you aren't rooting for your players to do well then you aren't being a fan..you're actively rooting against your team lol.

TheMarathonContinues · Jun 10, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
Nah, I just see you and your buddy use that line a lot on people that share different opinions. That or name calling is usually always the go to responds when you can't back up your emotional takes with anything concrete.

I like how you are aggressive and then someone says something about your football IQ then its "woe is me" and then you want to hide your hands after throwing rocks lol.

CouchCoach · Jun 10, 2021

jazzcat22 said:
Dak's injury was not due to the OL. It happened when he was running for a 1st down.

And that was a freak injury, it all set up perfectly with his ankle took his entire weight plus that of the tackler.

I do not worry about him getting injured but I am concerned how he's going to mentally handle the pocket when it collapses and bodies are falling around that ankle, Does he take off prematurely or get happy feet? I am assuming Moore and McC have been working with him on getting his timing down on his release, hold the ball too long now and more can happen that a sack.

I am more concerned about the health of the OL and I do not put anything in what the Joneses or anyone else on the team says about their health, they understate every injury. Booger got chased out of his own locker room by Ratliff over that.

MountaineerCowboy · Jun 10, 2021

rocyaice said:
I like how you are aggressive and then someone says something about your football IQ then its "woe is me" and then you want to hide your hands after throwing rocks lol.

You played your hand. You lost this one when you showed that you can't defend your emotional points with anything concrete.

foofighters · Jun 10, 2021

JoeKing said:
What injury concerns of our O-line are you talking about? They are going into this season healthier than they've been in years. Are you just addressing your own paranoia?

I think that same paranoia is what keeps you from accepting Garrett Gilbert as our backup QB. He's a fine QB and will do great if he needs to come in.

You think our LT will make it the whole season?

CouchCoach · Jun 10, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
The problem with that is that don't seem to realize they need it all at the same time. When they realize they need defense then that O-Line is now a questions mark. It's like they just can't put all the pieces together at once. When they realize what is needed then another part of the team is starting to regress.

This isn't changing, they're not adept at building a team. They prefer to try and fix what's broken than preventing the break.

When I try to spin it, I am doing that to try and remain positive. When I really look at the real clowns in Booger's Big Top, I don't get happy. Those clowns make me sad.

CATCH17 · Jun 10, 2021

I think Dak proved last year that him being healthy or not doesn't make a difference on the teams overall success.

The team will elevate Dak. Make no mistake about that. He's not that kind of QB that makes a difference.

CouchCoach · Jun 10, 2021

rocyaice said:
I disagree.

You may not have liked Irvin but there was no way you saw him score on Sundays and you just sat there pissed off lol.

I'm not saying you have to go out and buy these guys jerseys but if as fan you aren't rooting for your players to do well then you aren't being a fan..you're actively rooting against your team lol.

I root for the laundry and ignore who is in it most of the time. It is a game and they are players in the game.

I celebrated plays made by those players but not them making the plays. I tried to ignore the parts and focus on the whole.

CouchCoach · Jun 10, 2021

STOP THE PERSONAL STUFF.

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