Backup QB. Gardner Minshew?

garyo1954 said:

There is no downside to Minshew. He's 7-13, 37 TDs, 11picks in two years. His contract is under $1m thru 2022.
After that he'd walk looking for a possible starting gig.

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Why would Jax trade him?

CowboysFaninHouston said:

our back up QB position is really weak, I have no confidence in Gilbert, despite that one half game he showed a little against Pitt. Danucci? paaallleeeaassse.... Rush...been there. done that...and it smells of desparation...so perhaps if we spent a 6th or 7th on Minshew. reports are he is available for a trade and they are asking a low round pick. he has starting experience. won a few games, without much talent in Jax. perhaps something the team should consider.

plus, that mustache and the cowboys.....huh? huh? comeone doesn't that conjure up images of the 70s cowboys....

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Porn stache and a Stetson hat! I smell endorsements!

loublue22 said:

Why would Jax trade him?

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So that Urban can sneak Tebow into the QB room

loublue22 said:

Why would Jax trade him?

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Trevor Lawrence
Right now they have a full QB room with Lawrence, Minshew, Beathard, and Luton.
And most pundits have declared he has no future in Duval.
Reports have him possibly going to Atlanta, Seattle, the Giants, Titans, Carolina and Indy.
And lately Philly where they only have Hurts and Flacco on the roster.

loublue22 said:

Why would Jax trade him?

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FOR THE SAME RESON THEYVE MASE SomE STUPID MOVES ALREADY..

garyo1954 said:

Trevor Lawrence
Right now they have a full QB room with Lawrence, Minshew, Beathard, and Luton.
And most pundits have declared he has no future in Duval.
Reports have him possibly going to Atlanta, Seattle, the Giants, Titans, Carolina and Indy.
And lately Philly where they only have Hurts and Flacco on the roster.

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umm and Tebow lmao the potential THill player from NO..

who is the backup now behind Sunshine Lawrence ?

if Minshew's starting experience is that invaluable, then why aren't Jax themselves trying to keep him ?

Bullflop said:

I see no big reason why our FO shouldn't seek to solidify their backup QB position. They must have lots of confidence in Garrett Gilbert to be as reluctant to acquire Minshew as it seems. He's good. Was last year's one game experience with the Steelers truly enough to justify that? I wonder.

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Looks like they are gonna look at guys in camp before deciding
Obviously other teams are doing the same if minshew is still available

CowboysFaninHouston said:

our back up QB position is really weak, I have no confidence in Gilbert, despite that one half game he showed a little against Pitt. Danucci? paaallleeeaassse.... Rush...been there. done that...and it smells of desparation...so perhaps if we spent a 6th or 7th on Minshew. reports are he is available for a trade and they are asking a low round pick. he has starting experience. won a few games, without much talent in Jax. perhaps something the team should consider.

plus, that mustache and the cowboys.....huh? huh? comeone doesn't that conjure up images of the 70s cowboys....

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We like our guys!!

quickccc said:

who is the backup now behind Sunshine Lawrence ?

if Minshew's starting experience is that invaluable, then why aren't Jax themselves trying to keep him ?

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They acquired C.J. Beathard who backed up Garappolo and played a good amount in 2020.
Now somebody has to go. And who has the most trade value?

conner01 said:

Looks like they are gonna look at guys in camp before deciding
Obviously other teams are doing the same if minshew is still available

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and yet we are in no hurry to find BU QB, let one be cut late and we pick him up cheap...

blueblood70 said:

and yet we are in no hurry to find BU QB, let one be cut late and we pick him up cheap...

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That’s a smart option if Gilbert isn’t the answer

conner01 said:

That’s a smart option if Gilbert isn’t the answer

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my question is when will come the time for the Cowboys to start exploring more backup QB options and
competition for Garrett Gilbert ?

Once the Jeff Driskel deal fell thru , the Cowboys big three of McCarthy, Kellen and Musshemeir may have already decided that
they have observed and been around enuff of Gilbert to not be interested enough in any leftover

Could that come right before, during or after preseason ?

Typhus said:

Thats where Im at as well, if an equitable deal can be made than I want to see it happen.
QB2 is a major weakness at the moment.

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I agree. I’d rather invest in the position even if we never have to use him.

quickccc said:

my question is when will come the time for the Cowboys to start exploring more backup QB options and
competition for Garrett Gilbert ?

Once the Jeff Driskel deal fell thru , the Cowboys big three of McCarthy, Kellen and Musshemeir may have already decided that
they have observed and been around enuff of Gilbert to not be interested enough in any leftover

Could that come right before, during or after preseason ?

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I wish we had played Gilbert more last year so we would already know
But I think Driskell was a nice fit
Maybe they were serious, maybe not
But a couple weeks of camp and they should know if Gilbert can be the guy

conner01 said:

I wish we had played Gilbert more last year so we would already know
But I think Driskell was a nice fit
Maybe they were serious, maybe not
But a couple weeks of camp and they should know if Gilbert can be the guy

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This odd scenario is likely to add generously to the drama in training camp!
I can wait for TC to begin with everything that promises to be settled.

BobbyFlame469 said:

dak is use to competition. not many rookie qbs could play so wel they keep a great quarterback like Tony Romo stuck on the sidelines.

the problem with this team is too many guys get their “spot” and don’t feel they could lose it after.

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I was just being facetious.

So what are the expectations for a backup QB?

I'm sure it's different for every team based on the talent level and experience. I'm not just talking about the quarterback.

I've always felt that when your starting QB goes down, the team and coaches must step up. The results are more about them than the backup QB.

Remember, when the backup steps into the game he isn't going to be in rhythm with his offense. All season long, the starter got the majority of reps with the 1st team. I think that during the time the backup must play, the basic expectation is that he doesn't lose the game. That is, he must first concentrate on not making the big mistakes that cause turnovers or spoil an opportunity to score.

If the starter is out for a long period of time than the expectation may increase based on the status of the backup. If he was a starter for some team in previous seasons then the team might expect more as the season progresses.

However, if your backup is a 3rd day draft pick, journeyman, or even started in the league as a undrafted free agent, then it is up to the team to step up. The running game must take on more responsibility, the coaches must accelerate their coaching of that backup, a game plan must be devised to reduce the burden on this backup if the team hopes to be successful during that time. The defense must come together and commit.

Last season Andy Dalton was 4-5. Over the previous 9 seasons combined, a backup QB lead the Cowboys to a win only once. That happened in 2015 when the Cowboys defeated Washington 19-16. With 9 seconds left Dan Baily kicked a 54 yard field goal, his 4th of the day.

So, prior to the 2020 season, from 2011 to 2020, a Cowboy backup started 17 games and went a combined 1-16. The QB's were Brandon Weedon (0-4), Kellen Moore (0-3), Matt Cassel (1-3), Stephen McGee, Kyle Orton and Mark Sanchez (last three were 0-1).

The reason for having a backup QB isn't because the team is required to put 11 men on the field. You have a backup QB so the team can continue to compete. regardless of cap restraints, availability, or talent level. This is on management and coaching. Without a realistic plan in case the starting QB goes down, the Dallas Cowboys are always going to be one hit away from the season ending at any point in their schedule. We know this. We've lived it.

The solution is obvious. In order to prevent this, the Cowboys must have two viable options for a starting QB. How do they accomplish this? Again, obvious. Since you cannot pay two starting level QB's, one of them must be in a rookie contract. He must be a draft pick of that team.

Now when I say "viable" I mean they must have the talent level to be a legitimate starting QB. That doesn't mean they have to be a 1st round pick. However, the lower you drop in the rounds before you draft a QB, the less likely you will find future potential starters.

The Cowboys must make a habit of drafting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds once every three years. This accomplishes more than just a quality backup. It creates competition regardless of the starter's talent level. It creates "contract leverage" with the starter. It creates the potential for lucrative trade value. It creates cap relief.

The Cowboys have never been one to spend serious draft capitol on a backup QB but the evolution of the offensive game and the subsequent, increasing importance of the quarterback position demands it.

Minshue certainly plays with heart and is a team guy.

Kwyn said:

Read they are looking for a 5th or 6th a few days ago. Worth it to me for sure

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they ask. we offer. meet somewhere in the middle!? 6th is good for me