Backup QB. Gardner Minshew?

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I think Gilbert played well against the Steelers and he almost got the win with backups protecting him. I would roll with Gilbert.
my concern is that he tried to stick in the league for 7 years and failed. never started a game until Dallas. he had one good half...even Jason Garrett had one good game when he played GB on Thanksgiving....minshew is proven he can win in the NFL and has a little moxie in him...
 

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We aren't a legit Super Bowl contender so I don't want a backup to win games .
If Dak gets hurt we need to lose out.
if we can keep him for a a few years....maybe offer him something to stay around..his role in the NFL is back up QB...
 

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our back up QB position is really weak, I have no confidence in Gilbert, despite that one half game he showed a little against Pitt. Danucci? paaallleeeaassse.... Rush...been there. done that...and it smells of desparation...so perhaps if we spent a 6th or 7th on Minshew. reports are he is available for a trade and they are asking a low round pick. he has starting experience. won a few games, without much talent in Jax. perhaps something the team should consider.

plus, that mustache and the cowboys.....huh? huh? comeone doesn't that conjure up images of the 70s cowboys....

Minshew would be a great #2, but even with the top rookie QB I doubt the Jags would want to go with a rookie without a high quality backup. Accordingly, the cost to make a trade might be much steeper than the Cowboys are willing to pay.
 

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Nick Muellens just signed with the Eagles. He would have been a neat back up option.
 

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Minshew would be a great #2, but even with the top rookie QB I doubt the Jags would want to go with a rookie without a high quality backup. Accordingly, the cost to make a trade might be much steeper than the Cowboys are willing to pay.

Bingo. Thing is Minshew would have to be willing to stay but no one can blame him for wanting to leave. He also doesn't have a ton of leverage in getting out and is limited to what the Jags can get for him. People are now saying a 5th or a 6th but if I didn't like it, I'd wait if I were the Jags and see if a team has a QB go down to see if I can get more.
 

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How many NFL teams have a good backup quarterback?

Almost none.

2/3rds is the starting quarterbacks are really backup level.
 

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I feel Gilbert deserves a shot to compete for the job and gladly welcome any player coming into compete for a job on this team be it backup QB or any other position.
 

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Some good points here. BigMac took low round flyers on QBs in his time in Green Bay. Unfortunately that seems to be the exception.

But there are currently two prevailing theories on backup QBs. One comes from Tom Moore when he worked with Peyton Manning. When asked what he would do if 18 went down, he replied, "If 18 goes down, we're ***......and we don't practice ***." He went on to explain since he'd been with the Steelers in 1974, "Bradshaw took every rep." And that is common wisdom around the league. If the #1 goes down, the season is all but done.

Less common is the BDN theory, named after Nick Foles, the $5M dollar backup that took Philly to the Super Bowl. That theory posits if a team is willing to pay for a backup that can succeed under the constrained circumstances, they can succeed. This led to the Saints trading for Bridgewater and paying him to sit on the bench behind Brees. It also proved its worth when Bridgewater wen 5-0 in Brees absence.

However, the problem is teams do not commit $5M to a player whom they hope will never see the field. And that's compounded by the problem of finding a quality player willing to sit and more often a quality backup at all since there rarely seems to be enough competent starting QBs.

One study suggest the backup QB position consists of four type players:
The first round pick waiting to be a starter
The low round pick who has no chance of ever starting
A veteran who can be a starter
A veteran who was a starter and has no shot of being a starter again

The results of that study suggests if your backup isn't a first round pick, your best option is a veteran. At the moment is hard to determine, but as we get closer to the season, and rosters get pared down, we'll have a better idea which direction teams fall.
 

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I really think they are rolling with Gilbert and Nooch as backups.

Will it work? Hopefully we don't find out.

Gilbert is probably capable of handling a few games if needed, but if Dak goes down for the year it doesn't really matter.
 

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How many NFL teams have a good backup quarterback?

Almost none.

2/3rds is the starting quarterbacks are really backup level.
That means you could replace 20-21 NFL starting QBs all at one time with better players. I could see an argument for a few non starters that could do as well or better than a some lower level starters, but are there really 20 non starters better than the 11th best QB in the NFL?
 
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Last season Andy Dalton was 4-5. Over the previous 9 seasons combined, a backup QB lead the Cowboys to a win only once. That happened in 2015 when the Cowboys defeated Washington 19-16. With 9 seconds left Dan Baily kicked a 54 yard field goal, his 4th of the day.
Matt Cassel (1-3), Stephen McGee, Kyle Orton and Mark Sanchez (last three were 0-1).

2016 Dak was a backup for much of the season, so technically 3 backup QBs have won games.
 

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our back up QB position is really weak, I have no confidence in Gilbert, despite that one half game he showed a little against Pitt. Danucci? paaallleeeaassse.... Rush...been there. done that...and it smells of desparation...so perhaps if we spent a 6th or 7th on Minshew. reports are he is available for a trade and they are asking a low round pick. he has starting experience. won a few games, without much talent in Jax. perhaps something the team should consider.

plus, that mustache and the cowboys.....huh? huh? comeone doesn't that conjure up images of the 70s cowboys....
Robert Griffin III
 

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That means you could replace 20-21 NFL starting QBs all at one time with better players. I could see an argument for a few non starters that could do as well or better than a some lower level starters, but are there really 20 non starters better than the 11th best QB in the NFL?

I miswrote that. I meant 2/3rds of the starting QBs are legitimate, the rest are just backups on teams with no better option.

There are about 15-20 legitimate NFL starting quarterbacks at any given time. The other 12 teams are looking for one.

Tua, Locke, Trubisky, Hurts, Goff, Bridgewater, Garrapolo, Darnold, Tannehill....these guys are arguably just good backups until they prove otherwise.

That leaves no options for a good backup unless you drafted him and he's trapped in a contract.
 

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Seven teams in seven years and one NFL start. I've never seen a guy get so much love out of one career start, and he lost the game.

he had also just been the MVP of an alternative pro league, so its a bit more than you are listing out. Granted not top quality competition but it was experience.

(p.s. yeah technically he didnt get the mvp because they didnt finish the year before folding but he was a shoe in)
 
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