Is it realistic to think we can keep Gallup after this year?

Diehardblues

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I don’t know if the Cowboys “easily keep Gallup”; he’s going to draw good market value next year. If the Cowboys do the June 1st release of Jaylon Smith and Cooper and maybe Zeke, plus let Connor Williams and LVE walk, plus do restructuring with Dak….maybe, lol.
It depends on success of this season.

If 2021 disappoints , we need another coaching change after missing playoffs which would be 4 out of 5 years , we could see some wholesale changes as you’ve described.

But if we make a push this year back in the playoffs we could attempt to retain as many as possible.

This is a critical season moving forward with some of these starters on the bubble and their contracts. A playoff caliber team hangs on to as many as possible. A team in transition cleans up the Cap looking ahead.
 

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It makes sense to release Coop at the end of this year. If Gallup has a year similar to 2019 where he topped 1,000 yds, he will be entertaining offers beyond the ridiculous money Kenny Golladay got this year- 4 yrs, $72 mil. If Gallup has a solid year, he’s going to be able to get at least 4 yrs, $80 mil, which is ironically about what Cooper’s making. I just can’t see the Cowboys keeping Cooper and Gallup next year.
They won’t . Not sure Copper isn’t the odd man out. Who knows. They both could be if this season flops.
 

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It depends on success of this season.

If 2021 disappoints , we need another coaching change after missing playoffs which would be 4 out of 5 years , we could see some wholesale changes as you’ve described.

But if we make a push this year back in the playoffs we could attempt to retain as many as possible.

This is a critical season moving forward with some of these starters on the bubble and their contracts. A playoff caliber team hangs on to as many as possible. A team in transition cleans up the Cap looking ahead.
This season does have a lot of questions hanging over it. To go even bigger picture, in the last 10 years, the Cowboys have only made the playoffs 3 times. If we don’t make the playoffs again this year, with so many key players in the last of their rookie deals, and with several high paid vets at a crossroad (Cooper, Jaylon, Zeke), this season should be very interesting.
 

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weve had these discussions many times , lots of options that will include sacrificing most likely AC..THE FO will have tough decsions on how to handle this..i prefer to go young and heathier and with Lamb and Gallup plus CedW or a new up and comer, it would be the better long term choice..short term we might miss AC for a period of adjustment but might be best option to move him..

letting Gallup walk even for comp pick would be close to a mistake as they made allowing Jimmy Smith to be on expansion draft list as we all saw i camp how good this kid could be.

what HC made that mistake..?
 

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It makes sense to release Coop at the end of this year. If Gallup has a year similar to 2019 where he topped 1,000 yds, he will be entertaining offers beyond the ridiculous money Kenny Golladay got this year- 4 yrs, $72 mil. If Gallup has a solid year, he’s going to be able to get at least 4 yrs, $80 mil, which is ironically about what Cooper’s making. I just can’t see the Cowboys keeping Cooper and Gallup next year.
Releasing Cooper would never be smart. Teams trade for top players at a position.
 

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This season does have a lot of questions hanging over it. To go even bigger picture, in the last 10 years, the Cowboys have only made the playoffs 3 times. If we don’t make the playoffs again this year, with so many key players in the last of their rookie deals, and with several high paid vets at a crossroad (Cooper, Jaylon, Zeke), this season should be very interesting.
Yea, I’m not sure throwing in the last 10 years plays into it. I’d argue it’s more about the last 4 or 5 years since that’s when these core of talents have been here.

And missing playoffs 3 consecutive and or 4 out of 5 isn’t a good argument on retaining them.
 

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gonna go with a nope. Unless cooper is moved. Pick your poison. lamb is safe in the barn. I personally want to trade him for a run stopper. I got BOOOOOOOOED and that's fine. great player, great person, just unfortunately on the heavy side of depth.
 

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I don’t know if the Cowboys “easily keep Gallup”; he’s going to draw good market value next year. If the Cowboys do the June 1st release of Jaylon Smith and Cooper and maybe Zeke, plus let Connor Williams and LVE walk, plus do restructuring with Dak….maybe, lol.
I mean I just did the math, those restructures get you there and it's easy. Gallup's going to have something like a Tyler Lockett contract at $17m AAV if he stick with Dallas, and that's pretty easily a sub-$10m cap hit.
 

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Going into the 2021 season, the Cowboys have what could be considered “a good problem”. We arguably have one of the top 3 WR combos in the NFL- Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup and Cedee Lamb. And with Michael Gallup going into the final year of his rookie deal, he has every incentive to have a great year.

In fact, could 2021 see the Cowboys have three 1,000 yard receivers? It’s not out of the question though it hasn’t happened in 13 years. The Cardinals in 2008 were the last NFL team to have three 1,000-yard receivers. That season Larry Fitzgerald (1,431), Anquan Boldin (1,038) and Steve Breaston (1,006) did it. And it’s interesting that the Cards went to the Super Bowl that year.

But back to Michael Gallup. Is it realistic to think the Cowboys can afford to keep him, assuming he has a typical year for him? I doubt it- UNLESS- they decide to release Amari Cooper and his $20 million a yr contract, which I think is a strong possibility. Barring injury, if Gallup has the kind of year he has typically had or better, he’s going to garner a big deal.

Let’s look at some stat numbers on Gallup and how he compares:
  • In 3 seasons as a Cowboy, Gallup has averaged 52 receptions for 819 yards, and 4 TDs.
  • In 3 seasons, Gallup averages a very impressive 15.6 yards per reception. (Compare that to Amari Cooper’s career avg of 13.8 per reception- 13.5 since he’s been in Dallas.
  • In 3 seasons, Gallup averages a very respectable 53 yards per game. (The 7 years Cole Beasley was in Dallas, he avg about 32 yards per game)
  • In 2019, Gallup’s yards per target was a very respectable 9.8. (About what Coop’s was in 2019)
Here’s where I’m going with all this info:
  • In 2021, If Michael Gallup has even an average year for him, IMO he will be in big demand on the NFL FA open market.
  • Look at the money Cole Beasley got in Buffalo with numbers considerably lower than Gallup’s. Beasley signed a 4 year, $29 mil contract with Buffalo, including a $6 million signing bonus, $14.4 million guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $7.25 mil. Gallup will certainly garner a lot more than that.
  • Look at what former Lion WR Kenny Golladay got from NYG this year- 4 yrs, $72 million, avg $18 mil a season. His stats are very similar to Gallup.
CONCLUSION: If Michael Gallup has a typical year or something better (and I think he will) He’s not going to want to sign a “team friendly” deal here. Period. The only way Michael Gallup is here next year is if Amari Cooper is not and the Cowboys pay him market value.

As stated earlier- this is a “good problem” for the Cowboys.
Your thoughts?

Like others have stated, you would have to make a choice b/t re-signing Gallup and retaining Cooper. From a front office standpoint, it's not about who is better right now, but projecting his development 2-3 years down the road. Injury history, position depth/upside.....
 

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Gallup is very good; he is valuable, dependable, and growing.
That said, he's also most likely gone. Dallas cannot pay it's #2 receiver top money, and Gallup must earn what he can while he can.
If a team sees him as a great upgrade and addition as a starter, he will be paid top dollar as a #2 (no one is going to pay him as a possible #1). The only thing that could keep him in Dallas is other teams seeing how easy it seems to be to find a starting WR in the draft who will play on a rookie contract for 4-5 years. Teams are finding #1 and #2 receivers in rounds 1,2, and 3 these days.
 

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Yes, they can easily keep Gallup.

Assuming a $205m cap, all they really need to do is the standard, built-in restructures for Dak, Amari, DLaw and the OL, and release Jaylon (~$68m savings).

The only important FAs are going to be Gallup and Gregory. It's easy to let Connor Williams and LVE walk.
Connor Williams was our best OL last year and was good. Why is it easy to let him walk?
 

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I mean I just did the math, those restructures get you there and it's easy. Gallup's going to have something like a Tyler Lockett contract at $17m AAV if he stick with Dallas, and that's pretty easily a sub-$10m cap hit.
What we don’t know is what kind of market Gallup and other WRs are going to draw in 2022. That 4 yrs for $72 mil that former Lions receiver Kenny Golladay got from the midgets is a preview of what Gallup’s floor will be. If he has another 1,000 yard season, and I think it’s very possible, he will be starting talks around 4 yrs, $80 mil. It’s a good problem though.
 

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Gallup is the only wr who catches go route deep passes.
He is the one who makes big catch when the team needs a big play, Amari does this at times too.
I think they should find a way to keep him, but no telling what jones boys do.

Chances are he gets a better offer on another team, so maybe better for him to leave dallas. He might get more targets with another team
also.
I hope he leaves, better for him in long run and money wise.
That's pretty close to what I was thinking. Unless Feho pans out, we really don't have a deep guy besides Gallup.
 

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What we don’t know is what kind of market Gallup and other WRs are going to draw in 2022. That 4 yrs for $72 mil that former Lions receiver Kenny Golladay got from the midgets is a preview of what Gallup’s floor will be. If he has another 1,000 yard season, and I think it’s very possible, he will be starting talks around 4 yrs, $80 mil. It’s a good problem though.
Golladay is a bit more established than Gallup and has two 1,000 yd seasons under his belt. His speed(comine record 4.22 forty) could also easily help him command a higher salary than Gallup.
 

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What we don’t know is what kind of market Gallup and other WRs are going to draw in 2022. That 4 yrs for $72 mil that former Lions receiver Kenny Golladay got from the midgets is a preview of what Gallup’s floor will be. If he has another 1,000 yard season, and I think it’s very possible, he will be starting talks around 4 yrs, $80 mil. It’s a good problem though.
Golladay is Gallup's ceiling, not his floor - he's the 7th-highest paid WR in football by AAV. Gallup isn't getting paid the same as Michael Thomas lol, he's not getting #1 money. If he does, it's because the cap has gone up so much that the point will be moot anyway.
 

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Trading lamb accomplishes nothing. That's not an option
But he is because of his contract the most tradeable of the 3. Next comes Gallup, Cooper because of that contract and his history of disappearing ever since he entered the league, would be the hardest to trade and be seen as more of a salary dump.

Lamb led the team that led the league in drops. Cooper did that his last full season in OAK. I think Gallup has the best hands of the 3.
 

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Golladay is a bit more established than Gallup and has two 1,000 yd seasons under his belt. His speed(comine record 4.22 forty) could also easily help him command a higher salary than Gallup.
His salary will not be based on another player's but on the need of the team signing him. That's how Golladay got his deal.

Because of this shift to passing the NFL mandated, after the 40M QB's, come the 20-22M WR1's and 16-18M #2's. Or a team better be very good WR drafters and let them walk on the 2nd contract. They did well with Gallup, need to repeat that every 3rd draft, if not every other.
 

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They made a mistake by not starting the hunt for a trade for Gallup on the day Dak went down. Gallup had a big game, with late game heroics, with a backup QB. That game was Peak Gallup. At that time, teams could still think of Gallup as a #1, based on 2019, and that strong game. Since then, he was passed up on the roster by Lamb, and his production sagged.

Gallup is a quality #2 now. To some. But I'm always very skeptical of #2s opposite a very strong #1, and good supporting skill players. Harper. Terrance. The production is more indicative of an easy row to hoe than personal talent. I don't buy into those guys.
I am a little skeptical as well but Gallup is on a team with two bona fide 1's but when he got his chance, before they traded for Cooper, he didn't show up.

Huge difference on most teams with the CB on WR1 and the CB on WR2. Before the Cooper trade, Gallup drew the #1 spot. To make matters worse, Cooper had immediate impact, one guy affecting the pass game like that was eye opening.
 

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His salary will not be based on another player's but on the need of the team signing him. That's how Golladay got his deal.

Because of this shift to passing the NFL mandated, after the 40M QB's, come the 20-22M WR1's and 16-18M #2's. Or a team better be very good WR drafters and let them walk on the 2nd contract. They did well with Gallup, need to repeat that every 3rd draft, if not every other.
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