News: Gallimore Striving For Dominance In Year 2

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Jimmie Jones a third round pick was better than Casillas and Maryland IMO. Neither of those two were worthy of being drafted that high.
well, the back story to maryland was that there was a lot of uncertainty around the top 10-15 draft picks. boom or bust types, but Maryland was what he was. he would never be a dominant player. but he had a high floor. so Johnson knew what he was getting with maryland and how he can use him in the defense to build the type of defense he wanted. he went the low risk approach. hingsight being 2020, some of the players were better, but at the time that was the big risk.
 

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well, the back story to maryland was that there was a lot of uncertainty around the top 10-15 draft picks. boom or bust types, but Maryland was what he was. he would never be a dominant player. but he had a high floor. so Johnson knew what he was getting with maryland and how he can use him in the defense to build the type of defense he wanted. he went the low risk approach. hingsight being 2020, some of the players were better, but at the time that was the big risk.

IOW, outside of Miami players the scouting advantage he had from college coaching was already gone by 1991. At the end of the day he had picked the wrong WR and DT as well as trading away a superior DT.
 

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Wade Phillips with the Rams implemented his 3-4 on base downs with Aaron Donald (6-1, 280 when drafted). Donald then moved to 3tech on passing downs.

By moving Donald towards to outside in base, it made it less of a beating for him to play the run. It is more difficult to double team a 5tech DE than a DT.

Quinn will run a scheme that is similar to a 3-4 on base downs. Even if 4 DL have their hand down the alignments & responsibilities will be similar to some 3-4 schemes.

Back in the day D.Ware could have played hand down in base. A wide-9 type of DE alignment would have been basically the same as his 3-4 WOLB alignment.

Odig can be an important player for the team even if he is never a full time starter. Back in the Jimmy Johnson years the Cowboys rotational DL were very talented and would come in fresh and rested to wear down opponent blockers. For example DL Jimmie Jones was a big part of those Super Bowl seasons despite not being a full time starter.

It's the role and responsibilities that matter more that exactly where and how you line up, though I do believe that hand down vs. standing is a big difference for pass rush.

I can see we're going to have fun this year talking about our hybrid defense while still stuck with non-hybrid terminology.
 

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I know that is what they "say" he weighs but i don't believe it for a minute. That dude is thick.

Well, he's also listed at just 6-0, so 285 can look pretty think on a short defender.
 

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I'm buying what you're selling. So much so that I now refer to Neville Gallimore as Sir Gallimore as in one of the Knights of the round table. We need more Knights! Maybe soon we'll have a Sir Gregory or Sir Lawrence at the round table as well.

Sir Parsons? sorry i couldn't resist
 

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Looks like Gallimore has added some size to him this off-season. His arms look thick ! So has probably added more strength to him - that's good.
Haven't heard anything about Hill, but my hope is he has bonded somewhat with the other D-line guys. Get some more strength on him and add that to the vets and rookies on the D-line, and we may have the start of a somewhat decent rotation. Lawrence is the biggest star on the line at this point, Gregory is one of two biggest question marks (I would put Hill as the other).
We will see what we have come training camp, but hopefully if no big stars emerge, at the very least I would hope to see a stacked rotation emerge this year.
 

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The exception proves the rule.

Aaron Donalds don't grow on trees.

Here you go:

The 3-technique is the most glamorous of all the interior alignments. By definition a 3-tech (or under tackle) is any player aligned on the outside shoulder of a guard. What makes it such a coveted position? He generally has free rein to get upfield and create disruption. Unlike a 0- or 1-, the 3-tech is tougher to double team simply by alignment and therefore can make more plays on ball carriers in the running game and get to the quarterback faster on pass plays.

The reason they face fewer double teams is that in a typical under front, the 3-technique aligns to the weak side with a defensive end outside of the weakside tackle. This means the tackle can’t double down and the center has a long way to go to try and execute a double team.

The one quality most associated with the 3-technique position is quickness. Defensive coordinators want their 3-techniques playing in the offensive backfield and there is no better way to do this than with a swift first step.

The heights of 3-techniques vary wildly across the board, although shorter tackles are often pigeonholed as 3's. The one thing they do have in common, though, is weight. It’s rare to see one tip the scales at over 300 pounds as holding up to double teams cedes priority to agility.

Sometimes fans get a little too caught up in weight. Leverage, technique, hands all have more to do with how well you play a position than weight does.

Odighizuwa is a lightweight DT at 285, compared to Gallimore at more than 300. However, Osa is the better run defender (at least heading into this season). The difference is that Osa knows how to maximize what he's got while Gallimore uses his quickness to win and doesn't focus as much on his technique (same with Hill, but Hill's technique is much worse).

Osa understands leverage, which negates an OL's size advantage. He stays low and keeps his weight centered so that he can uproot the lineman. No matter how heavy you are, if you lose the leverage battle, you are going to have trouble maintaining your position. However, Osa also makes good use of his hands to help with the leverage and keep OLs from getting into his body. This allows him to control the block. Him having long arms for his height and being a very good wrestler comes in handy here. Because of his technique, Osa can even play nose tackle in a pinch despite his weight. He received snaps there at UCLA.

Because of how he uses what he has against run blocking, he should be a good fit at the under-tackle in the hybrid 3-4, where he has one-on-one battles that will allow him to best use his skills. He doesn't need to be at the 5-tech or 1-tech because those positions are meant to draw double-teams and even with his skills, it's hard for a 285-pound player to hold his ground against doubles.
 
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Bohanna, by all rights, should make a considerable difference for us to plug the run in 2021, while those like Gallimore and Odigizuwa will serve our pass rush capably. If Hill recovers as hoped, it's quite possible he'd help our cause, also. It's fair to say there's strength in numbers, especially, where rotational players are concerned. I expect our DL to be far more stable in 2021. More numbers, talent and experience should serve us well to make it so.
 
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well, the back story to maryland was that there was a lot of uncertainty around the top 10-15 draft picks. boom or bust types, but Maryland was what he was. he would never be a dominant player. but he had a high floor. so Johnson knew what he was getting with maryland and how he can use him in the defense to build the type of defense he wanted. he went the low risk approach. hingsight being 2020, some of the players were better, but at the time that was the big risk.
Maryland was the Cog on the DL.
 

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Hill went down and we cut Poe. Gallimore was simply the only credible option left for 3T.

Otherwise it was Woods and Crawford. Woods was waived. Crawford mercifully retired.

Gallimore was all we had left. So he got lots of snaps.

Yeah, I’m surprised and disappointed that the story intentionally omitted that fact.

Given his size, past experience, and word that he’s gotten bigger, I’m expecting Gallimore to play more 1T.
 

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Hill went down and we cut Poe. Gallimore was simply the only credible option left for 3T.

Otherwise it was Woods and Crawford. Woods was waived. Crawford mercifully retired.

Gallimore was all we had left. So he got lots of snaps.
What are you trying to say?
 

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FRISCO, Texas – Forget the cliché about one year making a world of difference – what about eight weeks?

It got lost in the shuffle of a painful season, but a switch seemed to flip for Neville Gallimore at the midpoint of his first season.

The rookie defensive tackle had played 120 snaps and made one start to that part in the 2020 campaign. Over the second half of the season he'd become a regular starter, making eight starts to go with a substantial increase of 296 snaps.

In a season marked by mishap, it was something to build on – not just for the Cowboys, but for Gallimore himself.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/...R6SN_TNCNe7AqgPt0-jJhAVgRVNO7D-M11Rcg1uJQzQuM
Looking forward to see how he progresses this year.
 
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