Twitter: Marcus Spears was not fond of the Cowboys slander today

CouchCoach · Jun 19, 2021

One thing I do feel confident about, the division. I do not see this as the doormat division this season. All but Philly improved, imo, but that is also an unknown, they do have some good players.

I am solely basing my opinion that DAL will win the East on one fact, the WFT QB. That D is strong but if they don't hold a team down below 17, Fitzpatrick is going to do what he always does, throw multiple picks. He is on his 9th team for a good reason.

Reid1boys · Jun 19, 2021

top 7 offense? I expect top 4. Assuming we are healthy, who is going to score more points than the Cowboys? Chiefs because Mahomes is someone I would put up there.... but who else after that?

ESisback said:
Nolan deserves a lot of the blame. So do injuries. Lack of depth, some HC snafus, bad officiating and circumstance combine to make up the rest.

who has great depth in the NFL?

garyo1954 · Jun 19, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
Our defense won't matter if we throw the ball 40-50 times a game.

I was looking at that last night but not from that perspective.

The most passes ever thrown in an NFL season was Matt Stafford in 2012 when the he threw 727. That seems safe (for now).
The second most is Drew Bledsoe with NE in 1994 when the threw 691.

40 X 17 is 680. 50 would be 850 passes.
Last year Matt Ryan threw 626.

Of course that's not the purpose of the OP, but an interesting tidbit.

TheMightyVanHalen · Jun 19, 2021

TwentyOne said:
Still i view WFT to win the division with the Giants coming in second. If Dak played for Cuba he'd even overthrew Fidei.

CowboyRoy · Jun 19, 2021

The Fonz said:
Mike Nolan deserves a lot of blames but to make him the lone scapegoat is totally wrong and simplistic approach .....too bad we will never hear his side of the story

how can we blame nolan for a defense that wasnt good before he got here? Its like these people act like the Cowboys D wasnt bad. And he lost Jones the CB from the year prior. The talent got worse.

CowboyRoy · Jun 19, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
Our defense won't matter if we throw the ball 40-50 times a game.

Here is perfect example highlighting the fact that you dont understand the game of football.

The reason we throw the ball a lot is because the defense sucks, not the other way around. LOL

CowboyFrog · Jun 19, 2021

blueblood70 said:
umm they broke our 3rd string team..get passed it and yes ill criticize what i refer to as Sports Idiots, taken as P1 for the original talk shows, who dont realize that WFT finished 1 game better then OUR BACK UP TEAM.they broke nooch and dalton and really had it not been for oddball call in the 2nd half of the 2nd game ,going for it like that w ewer only down by four with backup team, damn broke after that but fans are that was our backup team 3rd string OL , broken BU QB and many street guys playing defense..smh

THEY FINISHED 7-9 , US 6-10 AND? A THEY DID NOT DOMINATE ANYTHING..i can see the hoopla if they finished 10-6 as they should have given the states of injurie in dallas and philly and the growing pains NY went through but they only managed 7-9 think!!!?? way overrated

that actually horrible where i sit..

Ill say it again The WFT beat one team that was playing thier starting QB last year...Philly.....the love for the WFT is crazy man. Its like most dont even watch the games.. Every starting QB other than Wentz lit that defense up....your are correct everyone is over rating that D that Daniel freaking Jones had his way with not once but twice!!!!

john van brocklin · Jun 19, 2021

daboyzruleperiod said:

Don't get it, sorry

CapnB · Jun 19, 2021

I guess maybe I can see why someone could think WFT could win the division. Their defense is stout. But that offense? mediocre at best. Fitzpatrick isn't going to make that big of a difference. The Giants? They are a mess on defense and offensive line and D. Jones as yet to prove he's a legit starting QB in the league ( my opinion) The Eagles? Jalen Hurts is not that guy, he just isn't. I could be wrong and he could make this out of nowhere improvement, however I saw nothing last season that would indicate that might happen.

The Cowboys would have won the east last year hands down if Dak had not got hurt. The players on this defense ( J. Smith, Vanderwolf, and the middle of the d-line) did not just turn god awful over night and forget how to be a good player. Are they all-pro? Heck no, but can they put a top 20 defense out on the field? Yes, yes they can. And they have with those exact players before.

So it's a little mind boggling people are overlooking the cowboys. However, it's a good thing at the same time in my opinion. This team in the past seems to play better in the underdog role.

garyo1954 · Jun 19, 2021

CouchCoach said:
One thing I do feel confident about, the division. I do not see this as the doormat division this season. All but Philly improved, imo, but that is also an unknown, they do have some good players.

I am solely basing my opinion that DAL will win the East on one fact, the WFT QB. That D is strong but if they don't hold a team down below 17, Fitzpatrick is going to do what he always does, throw multiple picks. He is on his 9th team for a good reason.

The only thing that concerns me is the coaches finding the right buttons to push. Washington, deserved or not, earned their "fan favorite title" after embarrassing the Cowboys 25-3 in what should be considered one of their ten worst humiliating games ever. Up until that point we'd been told about the bonding, and brotherhood, and how close these players were. Then this team goes out, allows 200 yards to the 2nd worst rushing team in the league. Still not done, not one player came to Andy Dalton's aide after he was nearly decapitated by an unforgettable Jon Bostic cheap shot.

IMHO, McCarthey has to instill/install, or do whatever to get the players playing with backbone. He has to find something (besides money) that drives them to be their very best.

ESisback · Jun 19, 2021

Reid1boys said:
top 7 offense? I expect top 4. Assuming we are healthy, who is going to score more points than the Cowboys? Chiefs because Mahomes is someone I would put up there.... but who else after that?

who has great depth in the NFL?

No one, really, although ours was particularly bad in the area of rush defense. Add to that an offense with backups everywhere because of injuries at QB and OL, and…

Corso · Jun 19, 2021

TheMightyVanHalen said:

#1 David Robinson fan?
My bruddah.

DandyDon52 · Jun 19, 2021

if your going to blame the dallas defense and injuries, how do you explain losing to rams game 1 ? 20-17
Defense holds rams to 20 and dallas still loses.

In 2019 dallas was 8-8, and only beat 3 teams outside the div.
In 2020 dallas was 6-10 and beat 4 teams outside the div lol.

If and when they get to playoffs again, they have to play teams outside the div! the good teams lol outside the div.
they need 6-8 wins outside the div to be a good team.

Now look at the schedule and tell me which 6-8 teams they will beat outside the div lol.

CowboyFrog · Jun 19, 2021

DandyDon52 said:
if your going to blame the dallas defense and injuries, how do you explain losing to rams game 1 ? 20-17
Defense holds rams to 20 and dallas still loses.

In 2019 dallas was 8-8, and only beat 3 teams outside the div.
In 2020 dallas was 6-10 and beat 4 teams outside the div lol.

If and when they get to playoffs again, they have to play teams outside the div! the good teams lol outside the div.
they need 6-8 wins outside the div to be a good team.

Now look at the schedule and tell me which 6-8 teams they will beat outside the div lol.

Its a valid point for sure, all i can say is if it wasn't coaching before 2020 (I mean that is a bunch of injuries) then there is a wierd voodoo with this team that can not be solved....Makes you wonder if Jerry reaaly did go down to the crossroads for those 90's SB's.....

DandyDon52 · Jun 19, 2021

If and when they get to playoffs again, they have to play teams outside the div! the good teams lol outside the div.
they need 6-8 wins outside the div to be a good team.

Now look at the schedule and tell me which 6-8 teams they will beat outside the div lol.

Dallas can count on 3 maybe 4 div wins, but the most would be 6.
6+6 = 12 wins. 4+6= 10 wins

So aside from div games, do you see 6 wins?
If they cant win outside the div, they either wont make playoffs, or they will be one and done.
2021 Cowboys schedule

1: at Buccaneers
2: at Chargers
3: Eagles
4: Panthers
5: Giants
6: at Patriots

7: Bye

8: at Vikings
9: Broncos
10: Falcons
11: at Chiefs
12: Raiders (Thanksgiving)
13: at Saints
14: at Washington
15: at Giants
16: Washington
17: Cardinals
18: at Eagles
I see 6-7 potential wins, outside div, but not sure they can do it. Big maybe.

DandyDon52 · Jun 19, 2021

CowboyFrog said:
Its a valid point for sure, all i can say is if it wasn't coaching before 2020 (I mean that is a bunch of injuries) then there is a wierd voodoo with this team that can not be solved....Makes you wonder if Jerry reaaly did go down to the crossroads for those 90's SB's.....

Well back then we had a great HC, and staff, since then they have not had that.
Jerry lucked out hiring jimmy in his prime, just pure luck.
If they dont have that it is hard to have a good winning team, no matter what players you have.
TB won the SB with superior coaching last year, they have the best OC and DC in nfc. They were outstanding in playoffs.
Add brady as a player coach and motivator and you have a SB champ.

Rockport · Jun 19, 2021

The Commanders have a championship defense which they’re wasting. Fitz is a good QB and because of that, and as long as he stays healthy, they’ll be right there with the Cowboys, if the stay healthy. But Dak will dominate the East.

Rockport · Jun 19, 2021

The Fonz said:
Mike Nolan deserves a lot of blames but to make him the lone scapegoat is totally wrong and simplistic approach .....too bad we will never hear his side of the story

So who exactly do you blame for the worst defense in Cowboys history last year?

ESisback · Jun 19, 2021

Rockport said:
So who exactly do you blame for the worst defense in Cowboys history last year?

New DC, implementing a new scheme, with mostly players who fit another scheme, THEN, without normal prep time. Add an abnormal amount of injuries, bad officiating and plain old bad circumstance, and you get what we had in 2020.

CowboyFrog · Jun 19, 2021

Rockport said:
So who exactly do you blame for the worst defense in Cowboys history last year?

Im betting the defensive scheme will be the same as everyone in the FO including the HC has said they want this hybrid defense.....Mike Nolan had the perfect storm of bad happen to him and with the fact his last couple of stops were not great...well you cant cut all the players....Not canning your HC you just hired...someone has to get the blame. I suspect if Nolan stayed by default the defense would get better, so i see both sides, yes Mike Nolan was the DC so he does get the blame, there was a ton of bad luck (covid, horrible injuries on "the strong side of the ball" and so on) that helped him to that worst defensive season though.

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