Twitter: Stephen Jones’ biggest swing & miss: Not signing Dak 1st time

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Hawkeye0202 said:
Not true......he wanted to sign. Remember Stephen offered him top 5 money. At the time I think Wilson was the highest-paid QB at $35M. If you recall, Dak even admitted he didn't expect Wilson money. We could have made him the 2nd high paid at $34M average. Stephen got caught up with ranking crap, not realizing or understand QB numbers were with every new signing. In other words, the longer he waited the more it was going to cost.
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What Dak said and what Dak did, ultimately did not exactly line up. I like Dak, but I think Dak played hardball with the Cowboys, but gets a bit of a pass, as though he didn’t.
 
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Mike Nolan is living right, put his firing next to Dak's signing and in a few pages its....Mike who was the D coordinator??? Nevermind I'm mad about Dak's contract!!!!!
 
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Bobhaze said:
True, but if their team misses the playoffs two years in a row, or 14 times since 2000 as Stephen Jones’ team has, they are out of a job. Big difference in the temperature of the seat sit they sit on.
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Understood, though I would argue Stephen hasn’t been the GM anywhere close to that amount of time. Seems like 2010-11ish is when he really started to insert himself into the role.

Has our record been terrible since then? No, more like average with spikes of a double digit win season and occasional injury-riddled down year. He’s an average NFL GM based on his track record.

I hate the fact that it’s a family business and Stephen isn’t on the same seat that others are on, but at least he gives us a chance to win. I think we’ve had rosters that we could’ve won more with, but it’s a whole lot more than a GM to win a title.
 
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Mannix said:
It’s not funny Chuckles….it cost the team millions in cap space…you should not be laughing about a fireable blunder.
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I don't really think it did. He wasn't going to sign a long term deal anyway so basically, instead of getting him on his rookie deal, we would be looking at having paid him much more and then probably in negotiations for an even larger deal this year. I actually think it was probably cheaper, assuming we made the same to decision to keep him at all costs, had we signed him earlier. The biggest mistake was letting it be known that we would never allow him to walk away. That was easily the biggest mistake with Dak. Did the same thing with Romo so it's a blinds spot on stupid for Jerry and Stephen, to me.

JMO
 
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Hawkeye0202 said:
Not true......he wanted to sign. Remember Stephen offered him top 5 money. At the time I think Wilson was the highest-paid QB at $35M. If you recall, Dak even admitted he didn't expect Wilson money. We could have made him the 2nd high paid at $34M average. Stephen got caught up with ranking crap, not realizing or understand QB numbers were with every new signing. In other words, the longer he waited the more it was going to cost.
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I'm sure Stephen is well aware how numbers work. And I keep saying teams set the market, not the players. This whole idea that QBs somehow continue to make more just because is because teams allow it.
 
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I don't think he's been GM for 10 or 11 years. I think it's really only been like 7 or 8 but doesn't matter. Lets say it is 10/11 years, here is the record.

92/84

Since 2010 season, 4 .500 seasons, 4 winning seasons, 3 losing seasons. That would get pretty much any other GM fired.
 
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ABQCOWBOY said:
I don't really think it did. He wasn't going to sign a long term deal anyway so basically, instead of getting him on his rookie deal, we would be looking at having paid him much more and then probably in negotiations for an even larger deal this year. I actually think it was probably cheaper, assuming we made the same to decision to keep him at all costs, had we signed him earlier. The biggest mistake was letting it be known that we would never allow him to walk away. That was easily the biggest mistake with Dak. Did the same thing with Romo so it's a blinds spot on stupid for Jerry and Stephen, to me.

JMO
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Considering the cap space carries over now from year to year. So you never “lose” cap space. It actually benefitted the cowboys.

getting Dak on that 4th year for like 4 million really helped the cowboys cap wise a lot.

I know some don’t want to look at it that way. But if you consider the money the cowboys saved that season. Cap wise long term. Dak’s deal hasn’t been that awful.


The cowboys cap is being hurt far worse by overpaying some players in other position who just haven’t produced to expectations.
 
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ninja said:
Four years from now, I think Stephen will be saying signing Dak to $40M/year was his biggest swing and miss.

I hope I am wrong.
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I think you will be
Not signing him would mean looking for a QB and that search fails a lot more than it succeeds in the nfl
 
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JoeKing said:
Cowboys fans are the worst in the NFL. SJ is trying to acknowledge to the fans he messed up there and he knows it. This is how we learn and improve ourselves to not make mistakes like that again. Also, I think the public acknowledgment of that mistake was a cathartic exercise for SJ to forgive himself and move on. These are good things but rather than see this, it is only received by the foolish fans with mockery and scorn. How I do hate the wisecracking immature Cowboys fans. If there is a football god, he sees you fans for who you are, and for that, you have been punished for going on 25 years. Don't blame the Jones boys, its you that has caused this void of accomplishment by the Cowboys... you don't deserve anything better.
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our own home fans won’t even buy tickets to a home playoff game - would rather complain and watch the away crowd come and take over because no one wants to spend anymore money on the ‘jones’ or ‘jerryworld’. If this is your take you know jerry aint croaking yet and stephen will keep trucking on so complainers - find a new team
 
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ninja said:
Four years from now, I think Stephen will be saying signing Dak to $40M/year was his biggest swing and miss.

I hope I am wrong.
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:hammer:.......Should have let him walk......trade up for Zach Wilson. We will look back on this like we should have drafted Tom Brady in 10 years.
 
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If we assume that Stephen Jones has little to do with the draft then when has he connected? Free agency has been atrocious and we have some pretty shocking contracts.
 
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Hoofbite said:
If Dak stays healthy, the signing will be fine. It likely won't be fantastic, but it's not going to be anywhere as bad as people are making it out to be.

In 2 years, it'll be cap-neutral for a straight cut. Doesn't really matter because you won't find equal production waiting at the bus stop to be picked up.
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Dak has been avg and if if this is what the team gets out of him and flounders around the 9-8 mark and makes one playoff win than this was a progress stopper signing that wasted careers of many players. The dude can't throw one stinking touchdown against the Saints, Eagles or Jets when it matters most.
 
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