A common complaint about Dak is he is horrible in the redzone

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Seriously Roy?

How many TD passes between the hashes from inside the 10, do you see? (Your simplistic chart doesn't allow us to determine any incomplete attempts that fit that criteria)

You seem to be drawn to pretty colors so I'm trying to help you out here. If you can't figure out what some of those words mean just ask.
Yikes! Hard to read the yellow words.
 

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Not sure you see what you think you see. At most only 3 of those blue marks would be middle and under 20 yards and that is only if you accept the one that is well outside the right hash mark as being "middle". But clearly, only 2 are in the middle and inside the 20 with zero over the middle inside the 10. Which is what this thread was about. I am sure there are threads to discuss all the others but this thread was about inside the 20.

Vit's big claim is that Dak and or Moore doesnt throw over the middle enough and NEVER inside the RED ZONE. Im not going to haggle over which ones are outside the middle. There are tons of passes over the middle and 6 total TD's over the middle part of the field. There are also 5 inside of 20 yards which by anyone's definition is the RED ZONE. Heck there are even two inside the 10.

His theory has been thoroughly destroyed!!!!
 

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Seriously Roy?

How many TD passes between the hashes from inside the 10, do you see? (Your simplistic chart doesn't allow us to determine any incomplete attempts that fit that criteria)

You seem to be drawn to pretty colors so I'm trying to help you out here. If you can't figure out what some of those words mean just ask.

So you are mad at Dak because he threw the TD to the outside instead of the inside? That has to be the dumbest nit pick we have EVER seen on this forum. :lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao:

LOL...........gotta love how you keep moving the goal posts on this argument.

You went from "over the middle" to "over the middle in the redzone" to now its been taken all the way down to "inside the hash marks, inside the 10". Why dont you just keep going?

Just make it, inside the 5, inside the hash, on Thursday night football on the road? At some point you are going to find the answer you so desperately seek.
 

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Hopefully the just run the ball in the red zone. I think his deep all is his weakness, it seams he under throws the ball, but arm strength isn’t everything.
 

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This is by far one of the dumbest arguments made. The "over the middle" thing. But I give you credit for be a very inventive troll. :clap::clap:
Roy. Here is a little reminder of what my argument is. It involves a specific set of circumstances. It has, and never has been about every situation in any part of the field.

You can petulantly ignore that in a misguided attempt to try and save some face. You can broaden the parameters however much you want. None of that changes the fact that you have shown nothing to disprove the assertions stated in the quoted text above.

You've been owned, Roy.
(Blows the curl of smoke from the barrel of my Peacemaker. )

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2020 season, the most recent data on his redzone performance, the first four games.

22 redzone plays, 6 TD's for an average of a TD every 3.7 plays. That's less than a full set of downs.

In other words, in 2020, if you gave Dak a set of downs in the redzone, he was going to score....on average
 

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Roy. Here is a little reminder of what my argument is. It involves a specific set of circumstances. It has, and never has been about every situation in any part of the field.

You can petulantly ignore that in a misguided attempt to try and save some face. You can broaden the parameters however much you want. None of that changes the fact that you have shown nothing to disprove the assertions stated in the quoted text above.

You've been owned, Roy.
(Blows the curl of smoke from the barrel of my Peacemaker. )

:laugh:

The fact that you changed it to "inside the hash, inside the 10" just goes to show how much your previous claim got completely destroyed. At this point you are just making a complete fool out of yourself. :lmao::lmao::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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2020 season, the most recent data on his redzone performance, the first four games.

22 redzone plays, 6 TD's for an average of a TD every 3.7 plays. That's less than a full set of downs.

In other words, in 2020, if you gave Dak a set of downs in the redzone, he was going to score....on average

Yah, but how many TD's did Dak throw inside the 10, between ONLY the hash, on Thursday night football on the road? :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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So you are mad at Dak because he threw the TD to the outside instead of the inside? That has to be the dumbest nit pick we have EVER seen on this forum. :lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao:

LOL...........gotta love how you keep moving the goal posts on this argument.

You went from "over the middle" to "over the middle in the redzone" to now its been taken all the way down to "inside the hash marks, inside the 10". Why dont you just keep going?

Just make it, inside the 5, inside the hash, on Thursday night football on the road? At some point you are going to find the answer you so desperately seek.
You're a liar, Roy.

My argument has always been the same.

That's some good football thinking there Roy. Yes, who needs to attack every area of the field to become harder to defend.

"OK fellas, we're not going to do anything to draw the defense away from where we always attack". "Then we're going to blame the OC when the defense ignores the area we never attack to focus on the areas we always attack."

Is that how that works Roy?
The fact that you changed it to "inside the hash, inside the 10" just goes to show how much your previous claim got completely destroyed. At this point you are just making a complete fool out of yourself. :lmao::lmao::lmao2::lmao2:
That's been my argument all along. I have changed nothing.
 

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2020 season, the most recent data on his redzone performance, the first four games.

22 redzone plays, 6 TD's for an average of a TD every 3.7 plays. That's less than a full set of downs.

In other words, in 2020, if you gave Dak a set of downs in the redzone, he was going to score....on average


Not sure where you got your stats but Dak was 11 of 20 in the Red Zone in 2020 for a Comp % of 55% with 3 TD's and 1 INT; inside the opponent 10 yard line Dak was 5 of 10 for a 50% Comp % with 2 TD's and 1 INT.
 

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You're a liar, Roy.

My argument has always been the same.

That's some good football thinking there Roy. Yes, who needs to attack every area of the field to become harder to defend.

"OK fellas, we're not going to do anything to draw the defense away from where we always attack". "Then we're going to blame the OC when the defense ignores the area we never attack to focus on the areas we always attack."

Is that how that works Roy?

That's been my argument all along. I have changed nothing.

As you can clearly see from my chart they attack EVERY aspect of the field. Your theory is not only completely laughable, but has been proven completely false. Even when presented with a Dak passing chart you still cry about the same nonsense.
 

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He certainly needs to improve inside the 20 no argument. But he’s done pretty good as far as TD’s which is my point.
your point is correct in your context. RZ failure can't all be put on Dak, play selection also has a bearing.
 

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As you can clearly see from my chart they attack EVERY aspect of the field. Your theory is not only completely laughable, but has been proven completely false. Even when presented with a Dak passing chart you still cry about the same nonsense.
Your chart shows that we are unable to attack the middle of the endzone from in close. Obviously, that makes us easier to defend in those situations. At least to anyone with a clue.

Thanks for once again proving my assertions.
 

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The play calling inside the 20 is pretty bad...
This. We really should be running the ball when at the goal line. When we do it's always in a bunch formation with 4 TE's completely telegraphing the play. You guys should be happy that Dak takes care of the ball because the way we call plays in the redzone the defenses are all over it.
 
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