A common complaint about Dak is he is horrible in the redzone

Rockport · Jul 27, 2021

ninja said:
Many times it is the Cult of Dak putting forward some stat claiming greatness and others saying not so fast.

Just like this thread started with some flimsy stat (Number of QB red zone TDs) and I shredded it apart. It is about team red zone TD efficiency.

@MountaineerCowboy shredded their stats many times.

The only thing you shredded is your reputation :lmao:

Vtwin · Jul 27, 2021

Gaede said:
Yeah, it is a new goalpost. Every year, there is some random obscure BS you guys pull out of your *** like it's some sort of Achilles heel, or gotcha moment in which you've successfully proved that Dak isn't actually a good QB despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

And then when Dak proves your little theories are wrong, you find a new random item that actually doesn't mean anything significant when you take into account the entire player.

So you don't understand any of those very basic concepts. Got it.

Attack the poster without providing one single shred of evidence to counter the point being made. Got it.

Shouldn't be hard to "prove my little theory wrong". Yet you can't do it.

I've been saying for this for four years, so it's not some random new concept designed to demean poor Dak.

He struggles with accuracy in these short field, tight window situations. There is a reason we never see these plays run.

Go ahead. Provide me with evidence to the contrary.

Rockport · Jul 27, 2021

Vtwin said:
So you don't understand any of those very basic concepts. Got it.

Attack the poster without providing one single shred of evidence to counter the point being made. Got it.

Shouldn't be hard to "prove my little theory wrong". Yet you can't do it.

I've been saying for this for four years, so it's not some random new concept designed to demean poor Dak.

He struggles with accuracy in these short field, tight window situations. There is a reason we never see these plays run.

Go ahead. Provide me with evidence to the contrary.

You can't prove a negative claim. Go ahead and try. It's impossible.

TwoCentPlain · Jul 27, 2021

Rockport said:
The only thing you shredded is your reputation

Common sense should tell you that you should be the last person here to talk about reputation. But, I do appreciate the laughs you give me. You have no idea how funny you are. Mommy, what does he mean by I am funny.?

Rockport · Jul 27, 2021

ninja said:
Common sense should tell you that you should be the last person here to talk about reputation. But, I do appreciate the laughs you give me. You have no idea how funny you are. Mommy, what does he mean by I am funny.?

Attack away. I’ve got thick skin.

G2 · Jul 27, 2021

rocyaice said:
That's wild to me the stuff people on here do for attention....part of me hopes its all just one person on burner accounts......but then that would probably be even more sad.....

There's something certainly not stirring the cool aid around here.

TwoCentPlain · Jul 27, 2021

Rockport said:
Attack away. I’ve got thick skin.

Well, I’m rubber and you are flypaper. Anything you say, bounces off me and sticks to you.

Rockport · Jul 27, 2021

ninja said:
Well, I’m rubber and you are flypaper. Anything you say, bounces off me and sticks to you.

Feel better?

TwoCentPlain · Jul 27, 2021

Rockport said:
Feel better?

No. Same as always.

LACowboysFan1 · Jul 27, 2021

Top 10 is a fairly broad range, if you consider just the 32 starters, so it'd be near impossible to say he is, or isn't, imho...

5Stars · Jul 27, 2021

Rockport said:
All you do is cry and try to antagonize me.

Don't worry, Rocky...I won't let that big old meanie beat you up. I'm here for you...we are all here just for you.

MountaineerCowboy · Jul 27, 2021

Gaede said:
Yeah, it is a new goalpost. Every year, there is some random obscure BS you guys pull out of your *** like it's some sort of Achilles heel, or gotcha moment in which you've successfully proved that Dak isn't actually a good QB despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

And then when Dak proves your little theories are wrong, you find a new random item that actually doesn't mean anything significant when you take into account the entire player.

My theory has always been that that Dak is not an elite level QB yet and has yet to prove that he can lead us to wins without an elite level supporting cast.

How exactly has he proven that wrong?

Vtwin · Jul 27, 2021

Rockport said:
You can't prove a negative claim. Go ahead and try. It's impossible.

Come on Rocky. You're smarter than that, aren't you? I can easily prove that he doesn't attempt those throws very often, if at all. I suppose I can't really "prove" it's because he can't, but that's where a little reason, and common sense comes in to play. Why on earth would an OC handcuff himself in those critical situations by consistently choosing NOT to attack the entire field. That makes no sense at all. It also now spans two different OC's.

Every TD throw Dak has made is there for us to view. It would be relatively easy to find the throws that refute my claim and offer them as evidence.

Yet nobody does.

MountaineerCowboy · Jul 27, 2021

Vtwin said:
Come on Rocky. You're smarter than that, aren't you? I can easily prove that he doesn't attempt those throws very often, if at all. I suppose I can't really "prove" it's because he can't, but that's where a little reason, and common sense comes in to play. Why on earth would an OC handcuff himself in those critical situations by consistently choosing NOT to attack the entire field. That makes no sense at all. It also now spans two different OC's.

Every TD throw Dak has made is there for us to view. It would be relatively easy to find the throws that refute my claim and offer them as evidence.

Yet nobody does.

He's just going to call you names while a little more of his integrity goes away.

Big D · Jul 27, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
My theory has always been that that Dak is not an elite level QB yet and has yet to prove that he can lead us to wins without an elite level supporting cast.

How exactly has he proven that wrong?

It hasn't been proven wrong but I think it should be stated as -Dak is not an elite level QB yet and has yet to prove that he can lead us to wins without a supporting defense. And theres nothing wrong with that. The offense can only do so much especially when facing good defenses themselves. Do they make mistakes? Sure! But this is a team game and we need defense to step it up to consistently win games. I think people know that but like to be deliberately obtuse.

DeaconMoss · Jul 27, 2021

PAPPYDOG said:
10 pts vs the Saints.
9 Pts vs the Pats.
9 Pts vs a depleted Eagles team for the division title.
Common now don't you see the greatness???
HATER!!!!
HATER!!!!

Haters = Facts
Dak lovers != Facts
Dak lovers <> Haters

khiladi · Jul 27, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
My theory has always been that that Dak is not an elite level QB yet and has yet to prove that he can lead us to wins without an elite level supporting cast.

How exactly has he proven that wrong?

In 2020, when it was the 4th quarter, within 7, he threw a whopping 61.1%, a 4.6 YPA, his longest was 24 yards, he threw 0 TDs had 1 INT, 2 sacks (pass protection was holding up) and a QBR of 60.8. He was 22 for 36.

Dak is the very definition of a “part tiger”. People say he was bringing the team back, when in reality, the defenses simply tightened up at the end and he floundered.

https://www.nfl.com/players/dak-prescott/stats/situational/

Gaede · Jul 27, 2021

Vtwin said:
So you don't understand any of those very basic concepts. Got it.

Attack the poster without providing one single shred of evidence to counter the point being made. Got it.

Shouldn't be hard to "prove my little theory wrong". Yet you can't do it.

I've been saying for this for four years, so it's not some random new concept designed to demean poor Dak.

He struggles with accuracy in these short field, tight window situations. There is a reason we never see these plays run.

Go ahead. Provide me with evidence to the contrary.

If you've been saying this this whole time, kudos to you for your consistency.

But take that one criticism, which may be legit and I'm not even disrupting it, into context of the entire player and its not some fundamental flaw. Room for improvement? Sure. But I take offense at people acting like one issue completely disqualifies the entire player.

Gaede · Jul 27, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
My theory has always been that that Dak is not an elite level QB yet and has yet to prove that he can lead us to wins without an elite level supporting cast.

How exactly has he proven that wrong?

Ughhhhh because it's a sport with literally 21 other world class athletes and professionals who also need to play and do their part?!

I don't believe you have the right stuff to land on the moon. Prove me wrong!

USArmyVet · Jul 27, 2021

Rockport said:
All you do is cry and try to antagonize me.

No, I simply call out when your position is wrong by using statistics or facts without using such terms as hater or troll as I know you own the copyright on those things.

PS
You openly admitted to trying to antagonize people so I find it rich that you accuse others of doing the very thing you admit to doing.

A common complaint about Dak is he is horrible in the redzone

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