New rule for DBs - Could be Gamechanger

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First off, I'm all for keeping offensive linemen's legs healthy.

Hey, make it hard as hell on the linebackers to remain off their heels!

A good and balanced offense will just get better. Dallas is built for just that picture...

and the tendency will help the speed and size now on the defensive side of the ball.

Hoooah! Go Cowboys!
 
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Zeke and Pollard will score on every screen play we run. The problems is, J Lewis will be flagged 5 times a game.
 
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How do you think the new rule will affect the current Cowboy CBs and safeties? 300+ pounds barreling down on 190 pounds and that DB might be making a business decision.

Will the Cowboy OL be able to take advantage? Might be seeing more screens and run plays to the perimeter. Will this benefit Elliott and Pollard getting better blocks?

Maybe someone can find video of the penalty in the Chiefs 49ers game.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...s-impact-of-nfls-new-low-block-rule/#comments

Former NFL player Tim Ryan, calling the TV broadcast of the game, noted that for a smaller defensive back trying to take on a bigger offensive lineman, making it illegal to go low makes it incredibly difficult to beat the block.

“This is gonna change the perimeter run game and the screen game,” Ryan said. “Last year that wasn’t a penalty. This year it is. . . . Get out of the way or get knocked out.”

As former NFL referee Terry McAulay wrote on Twitter of a defensive back’s dilemma if he can’t go low on a much bigger offensive lineman, “Not sure what he is supposed to do.”
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Another move toward “Touch football”. I’m all for player safety. But there is a way to hit a guy low without endangering the knee. If a small DB can’t cut down an OL barreling at them then every play should be a sweep, screen or pass to a slot receiver with a pulling guard leading the way.
 
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Clever DBs will simply turn their backs and get a block in the back penalty.
 
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Bobhaze said:
Another move toward “Touch football”. I’m all for player safety. But there is a way to hit a guy low without endangering the knee. If a small DB can’t cut down an OL barreling at them then every play should be a sweep, screen or pass to a slot receiver with a pulling guard leading the way.
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That is up to the offensive coordinator and head coach. It also depends on how often the refs are going to call it. The Legion of Boom got away with a lot of holds in the secondary because the refs wouldn't call it. Last year, the refs called fewer OL holding calls. They are making it easier for the offensive linemen to succeed.

It just keeps getting tougher and tougher for the defenders.
 
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ninja said:
How do you think the new rule will affect the current Cowboy CBs and safeties? 300+ pounds barreling down on 190 pounds and that DB might be making a business decision

As former NFL referee Terry McAulay wrote on Twitter of a defensive back’s dilemma if he can’t go low on a much bigger offensive lineman, “Not sure what he is supposed to do.”
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The stupid thing is that it will no longer be a business decision, it will be what the DB is supposed to to, which is try to get out of the way rather than being knocked out of the game by a 300+ pound guy barreling down at him. Yeah, it is to try to eliminate linemen knee injuries but now you put the DB health in jeopardy. I think a head injury is worse than a knee injury.
 
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The stupid thing is that it will no longer be a business decision, it will be what the DB is supposed to to, which is try to get out of the way rather than being knocked out of the game by a 300+ pound guy barreling down at him. Yeah, it is to try to eliminate linemen knee injuries but now you put the DB health in jeopardy. I think a head injury is worse than a knee injury.
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Yeah, exactly. Would have been hilarious to see a DB take on Larry Allen with a full head of steam.

RBs need to adjust maybe and stay on the offensive lineman's hip and ride that for a few yards. LBs like Parsons and Cox might be able to help a lot here with their combination of speed and size. Not Jaylon though.
 
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That sucks. You can't nerf the game into being completely safe. The helmet-to-helmet stuff makes sense, it puts both players at risk. This trades one risk for another, which is likely greater.

Rather than have a lineman get cut low, the NFL is more-or-less demanding that DBs stay high and take on a player with a 130+ lb weight advantage? They're just get lifted and tossed aside? You're gonna see some body's going through the air, or you'll see DBs yield the path and make the game less competitive. First DB who takes a WWE spine buster is gonna be pissed. And all other DBs are just gonna get the hell out of the way.
 
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Hoofbite said:
That sucks. You can't nerf the game into being completely safe. The helmet-to-helmet stuff makes sense, it puts both players at risk. This trades one risk for another, which is likely greater.

Rather than have a lineman get cut low, the NFL is more-or-less demanding that DBs stay high and take on a player with a 130+ lb weight advantage? They're just get lifted and tossed aside? You're gonna see some body's going through the air, or you'll see DBs yield the path and make the game less competitive. First DB who takes a WWE spine buster is gonna be pissed. And all other DBs are just gonna get the hell out of the way.
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I think the only way to defend this will be to reverse the tactic. Before, you had the CB taking out the lineman so the LB makes the play. Now you need to have your LB take out the lineman with a lateral hit to the upper body. So the DB makes the play on the runner. In other words, prevent or delay the lineman from getting to the corner. That seems to be your only defense other than having the DB use an ole' approach like getting out the way of a charging bull. The DBs might as well red jerseys too. Of course, the swords are optional.
 
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TequilaCowboy said:
I think the only way to defend this will be to reverse the tactic. Before, you had the CB taking out the lineman so the LB makes the play. Now you need to have your LB take out the lineman with a lateral hit to the upper body. So the DB makes the play on the runner. In other words, prevent or delay the lineman from getting to the corner. That seems to be your only defense other than having the DB use an ole' approach like getting out the way of a charging bull. The DBs might as well red jerseys too. Of course, the swords are optional.
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Maybe, but then it seems like you're committing so much to the edge from the start. Also, 1-on-1, what DB is going to stop Henry?

It's a bad rule, and if it's called this like video it's going to result in some crucial freebies. I don't know the rule but are offensive players prohibited from going low as well? If not, why?
 
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Hoofbite said:
Maybe, but then it seems like you're committing so much to the edge from the start. Also, 1-on-1, what DB is going to stop Henry?

It's a bad rule, and if it's called this like video it's going to result in some crucial freebies. I don't know the rule but are offensive players prohibited from going low as well? If not, why?
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Yes. Cut blocks are being outlawed everywhere.

Soon, you will only be able to tackle between the waist and shoulder pads.
 
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Yes. Cut blocks are being outlawed everywhere.

Soon, you will only be able to tackle between the waist and shoulder pads.
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Well, at least I can be made at both sides of the ball now.
 

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This may be the end of football fandom for me if it sticks. Every year more rules come out in favor of the offense.
 
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There’s a difference between the defender giving himself up and going down, collapsing on the spot of a block by a bigger OL. We actually see DLmen drop when facing a double team they can’t beat. You don’t need to run around or be bowled over. As the blocker gets to you, you can go low as self preservation and to occupy a small space. That’s very different from diving into the blocker’s knees to cut him down and take him out of the play.

I doubt there will be a call on a S or DB who drops to the ground just as an OG or OT is rolling into him. But I think the rule is to prevent the smaller player from chopping the blockers knees out, not really any different than a penalty on a blocker who dives into a defender’s knees outside the tackle box.
 

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Read down to his next tweet.

Terry McAulay
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When the NCAA was looking to eliminate low blocks altogether, this exact type of play was examined. At the time, there was no statistical or even anecdotal evidence of it causing significant injury, so it is still allowed under those rules.
 
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