What does success look like in the NFL?

75boyz

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It's impossible to accurately measure what motivates this Front Office.
Is it making money or winning championships?

Many would say winning championships is secondary to the marketing, profits and brand that this team has become and now represents.

I am one of those people.

The stadium and other outside revenue profits associated with this current brand have this ownership family riding a gravy train.
The football team's winning trophies has been replaced by being the Forbes most valuable franchise winner.

Winning anything in spite of effective general managing and coaching, which is what they lack and have lacked for almost 3 decades now, looks no different now nor for the near future imo under this same ownership family.

Business is good. The team is relevant enough in their eyes.

If they win, that's fine too but bottom line still prevails.

jmo
 
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They did pretty surprisingly good for a team with a QB that threw 30 INTS.

That's why Brady went there. They had the pieces. They just needed the QB.

Not necessarily true. They added Tristan Wirfs, who basically had a 3% pass rush rate, 4th lowest of any tackle in the NFL. Out of 1280 of the offensive snaps he played, 799 were pass blocking and he allowed only one sack.

The 2019 sack leader, Shaquil Barrett, said the ROOKIE was the best tackle he ever played against, meaning going against him in practice everyday that was his judgment.
 

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I thought I'd post this given we are about to play Tampa tonight and use Dallas and Tampa as my "what does success look like".

We've done nothing since the 90s yet Tampa have won the Superbowl twice this century (2002 last time)- the question then is are they more successful than we are in the time period for their 2 wins?

Before you shout "of course"!, let me explain why I pose the question.........

In the 19 seasons since their 1st Superbowl to last year, they have won 130 regular season games. In that same timeframe, Dallas has won 164.
They had 5 seasons in a row <8 wins (2011-2015)
Dallas in the 19 years - never had 2 years <8 wins in a row!
Tampa actually had a run of 7 losing season in a 9 year period (2011-2019) - that is awful!

It's not even close who has been the better team here during what's meant to be "bad" Dallas and "good" Tampa, not even close.

So what's my point? It's the boom and bust nature by and large of NFL roster building that we just don't ever do whereas other teams are either forced to do or "get lucky" with continual super-high draft picks that allow them to gather blue chip players. Tampa have been terrible but being terrible allows the occasional high and the occasional high hits the Superbowl jackpot now and then too.

Before you ask, am I saying tear it down now? No I'm not, but there has to be a point we do rather than finish 8-8 at times. Other teams seems willing to acknowledge they aren't in a great place so release vets / collect draft picks through trades building with a 2-3 picture in mind - we don't and that's why we aren't successful. Last time we did see the big picture a certain RB was traded to Minnesota.....can't quite remember the outcome of that....wait, hang on.


Dallas record since they last won a Super Bowl (25 seasons):

208 Wins 192 Losses .520 winning %

3 straight seasons (2000-2002) of 5-11 record 3 straight seasons (2011-2013) of 8-8 record

8 seasons below .500 (43 wins 85 losses .336 winning %) 5 seasons at .500 (40 wins 40 losses) 12 seasons above .500 (125 wins 67 losses .651 winning %)

14 playoff games (4 wins 10 losses .286 winning %)

5 playoff games in last 11 years (2 wins 3 losses)

While comparing Dallas with TB makes Dallas look better, the fact is Dallas has been irrelevant the last 25 years in terms of on the field performance.
 
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Success in the NFL is obviously winning that SB trophy. But you don't have to have a super dominant team to win it. Just a good enough team that catches fire in the end, and into the post season. That's how the Giants, Eagles, Broncos, Saints even the Bucs won it. NE has won several but not back to back since 2005. We thought the Chiefs might have a dynasty going, but even with Mahomes, that is questionable. Dallas had a couple very good teams in this century capable but did not play well when it counted. Been mediocre most of the time. So they have failed. Success in the NFL is fleeting. Parity rules. There are no super teams, which is the way the NFL wants it.
 
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