Blame Game. Ive Heard Mike, and Greg BUT

CT Dal Fan · Sep 10, 2021

All of this discussion.......

And if the officials call offensive PI on Chris Godwin like they should have we'd be celebrating a 29-28 victory right now. Or if Dallas scored even one more TD on their redzone trips. The list can go on and on. I'm as disappointed as anybody about this loss, but last night the Cowboys did not look like last year's Cowboys at all. I know the defense sagged often, but they won't face a better QB all season.

thechosen1n2 · Sep 10, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
CeeDee first drop was just a poor throw by Dak (short and behind the receiver).

The throw you’re talking about was a great throw by Dak. That was 100% a catchable ball that a good receiver should make.

conner01 said:
It hit him right in the hands
He had two drops last night
The shorted pass was on Dak
But his drops were no more important than taking a sack that took you out of FG range when you were out of the pocket
Or penalty in the red zone
Of missing a short FG and extra point
Or a obvious push off not called
The good news is these are not talent problems
These are using your head problems and those can be fixed
Talent problems like the Dline are just something you have to live with at this point
And even with 4-5 plays that could have won the game, we played the SB champs to the end and that should give confidence that this team can win a lot of games

I agree with most of these as well.

OldJarhead · Sep 10, 2021

TwoDeep3 said:
You started your response with a strawman position. Then spent the rest of the time supposing to make your position appear stronger.

Jump or not, the ball hit his hands and he juggled it.

As far as Collinsworth's love for Dak, did you watch with the sound off? The beginning he was questioning Dak. At the end he was praising him. And if you watched the offensive pass interference play at the end, Collinsworth (former WR for Cincinnati) was making excuses for the WR, when it was a clear cut push to get separation.

QB's make their money threading passes into tight windows. That pass was right where it should have been. I am a huge Cee Dee fan, but he turned the ball over. Not Dak.

He makes that catch and that would be the focal highlight of the game on every sports station. As it is, it still is, but not because of the QB.

So, to be honest, I have no idea what a "strawman position" means, and I had no clue who he was talking about when he said that a real NFL player had made a comment, I had made an assumption (and yes, I do know what happens when we assume things) that he was referring to one of the myriad of morning after talk shows.

Either way. My position is my position. I'm just sharing. Just like you are. If you disagree then so be it. Oh, btw, I do know who Cris Collinsworth is. I used to live about 2 hrs from Riverfront Stadium (that is where Pete Rose used to play Baseball).

Beaker42 · Sep 10, 2021

OldJarhead said:
That "Dart" to me was a questionable pass to begin with. #88 had three defenders around him and had to make a play on the ball. Yes, he should have caught it, but to call that a drop?

Um yeah? It went right through his hands.

WillieBeamen · Sep 10, 2021

Dak homers at it again :laugh:

That 3rd throw was high, in the middle of the field, surrounded by 3 defenders. Yes he dropped the pass, but it shouldnt have been thrown.

Malhavoc · Sep 10, 2021

WillieBeamen said:
Dak homers at it again

That 3rd throw was high, in the middle of the field, surrounded by 3 defenders. Yes he dropped the pass, but it shouldnt have been thrown.

Dak haters again. Lamb dropped a ball he should have caught. End of story.

ICP · Sep 10, 2021

It's his second year and opening night on National TV vs the defending Superbowl Champs. Maybe he was nervous, I think he still has to grow some which includes defending the ball as well as attempting the catch. To me he looks like the real deal and it will come together in time

basel90 · Sep 10, 2021

conner01 said:
It hit him right in the hands
He had two drops last night
The shorted pass was on Dak
But his drops were no more important than taking a sack that took you out of FG range when you were out of the pocket
Or penalty in the red zone
Of missing a short FG and extra point
Or a obvious push off not called
The good news is these are not talent problems
These are using your head problems and those can be fixed
Talent problems like the Dline are just something you have to live with at this point
And even with 4-5 plays that could have won the game, we played the SB champs to the end and that should give confidence that this team can win a lot of games

Indeed . cee dee is an absolute threat and a tremendous talent . He will only get better .

WillieBeamen · Sep 11, 2021

Malhavoc said:
Dak haters again. Lamb dropped a ball he should have caught. End of story.

Its clear u dont kno football

DogFace · Sep 11, 2021

OldJarhead said:
That "Dart" to me was a questionable pass to begin with. #88 had three defenders around him and had to make a play on the ball. Yes, he should have caught it, but to call that a drop?

Yes. It was very clearly a drop. I’m not sure how you could see that any differently.

Putting the ball in a perfect spot in between the defenders is the goal.

DogFace · Sep 11, 2021

WillieBeamen said:
Its clear u dont kno football

I’m late, but what does that mean?

It was very clearly a drop, right?

WillieBeamen · Sep 11, 2021

Mr_C said:
I’m late, but what does that mean?

It was very clearly a drop, right?

Yes, he dropped the pass

The QB ALSO left him out to dry with throwing that pass into triple coverage.

birdwells1 · Sep 11, 2021

Batman1980 said:
Lamb is the most overrated of the top 3, at least he's already better than Dez Bryant.

If Lamb has a career like Dez he'll be blessed, yall forgetting that he's the alltime leader in receiving tds.

Batman1980 · Sep 11, 2021

birdwells1 said:
If Lamb has a career like Dez he'll be blessed, yall forgetting that he's the alltime leader in receiving tds.

Bryant was talented but flawed. Relied way too much on his physicality and never became a polished route runner. Didn't have top-end speed or great hands, not to mention the fumbles and the tendency to have low football IQ. I would take Gallup, Lamb and Cooper over him. Being the top receiver on what were generally terrible receiving corps for a borderline HOF QB is not that great of an accomplishment for a 1st round pick.

Captain-Crash · Sep 11, 2021

I think lamb was concerned about the hit. The pass lead him into the defender and he was worried about the hit if I'm thinking of the correct play.

birdwells1 · Sep 11, 2021

Batman1980 said:
Bryant was talented but flawed. Relied way too much on his physicality and never became a polished route runner. Didn't have top-end speed or great hands, not to mention the fumbles and the tendency to have low football IQ. I would take Gallup, Lamb and Cooper over him. Being the top receiver on what were generally terrible receiving corps for a borderline HOF QB is not that great of an accomplishment for a 1st round pick.

Dez had a career of 537 catches for 7500 yards and 75tds. Not the best but you're acting like he was Antonio Bryant or something. I know when Dez left, the Fandom was split but you can't take away what he accomplished. He was well worth that first round draft pick. If I told you you were going to draft a skilled player (rb qb wr or te) that would break your team's record for touchdowns you'd do it in a heartbeat.

glimmerman · Sep 11, 2021

thechosen1n2 said:
Ceedee hurt the cowboys bad tonight. He has to fix the drops. He stalled the first drive with a drop, as well as the drop from Dak (it was a short/bad pass) but still you have to catch that.

He then drops the absolute dart that lead to Daks sole pick after throwing 50 times.

This is not a CeeDee hate thread, but he has to work on this if we want to get rid of coopers contract. Until then Cooper is and will be our best receiver.

The pick should have been a Lamb catch.

khiladi · Sep 11, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
that actually was a good throw but a bad route combination call by Moore.........Moore called two routes from the same side with recievers ending up in the same close area, which brought 4 defenders into play....he also left that as the only options for the pass play, with both recievers in the same area....there were no other options....even if CD made the catch, which if he is elite he should have, it was still a very very bad play call.

Carlton Davis near Pick 6 after Dak Prescott interception! - YouTube

learn to understand the game kid.....instead of just staring at TV screen and looking for something to complain about Dak.....

Nothing of what you stated changed the fact that Dak threw the ball into triple coverage, meaning it’s excuses. If they look isn’t there, the QB is not supposed to throw it. That’s what PROGRESSIONS are for.

It’s like the same throw he made earlier that should have gotten picked off as well, so you can blame CeeDee for dropping it, but Tampa Bay fans can blame there LB for dropping the same pass Dak threw right into his hands.

In fact, looking at the video, it’s worse that I thought, the play-action had the LBs dropping back and the next progression was Schultz who basically Dak just ignores even though he looks right at him, isolated on one guy having like thirty yards to run.

That’s Dak for you.. the ONE read, first progression stare down QB..

khiladi · Sep 11, 2021

Clove said:
He HAS to catch those balls. That's the difference between great and good.

Imagine playing in the past era when DBs could launch themselves off the ground when nailing a WR in such a scenarioz. Hell, imagine the era of Largent, who caught everything without the gloves they use today, while having to deal with that potential spear.

khiladi · Sep 11, 2021

Batman1980 said:
Bryant was talented but flawed. Relied way too much on his physicality and never became a polished route runner. Didn't have top-end speed or great hands, not to mention the fumbles and the tendency to have low football IQ. I would take Gallup, Lamb and Cooper over him. Being the top receiver on what were generally terrible receiving corps for a borderline HOF QB is not that great of an accomplishment for a 1st round pick.

Hold the horses with Gallup bro.. Gallup has basically been running go routes his whole career here. Lamb and Cooper, yeah..

Dez was ruined by his mouth and and lack of discipline and a QB not known for his accuracy.

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