Why We Lost

CowboysFaninHouston · Sep 12, 2021

we lost because of bad game management by our coaches...they sucked when it mattered most...reminded me of Garrett all over again snatching defeat from jaws of victory

Bobhaze · Sep 12, 2021

The biggest reason we lost this game…besides all the good ones listed here…is something most of us don’t want to admit. And it is this: The Buccaneers are currently a better football team than we are. They should not have won this game because of the 4 TOs they committed. But we let them off the hook.

Good football teams find a way to win even on nights they have too many TOs. We should have won that game. We have the opportunity to get better. And it’s too early in the season to make strong declarations about what our team is.

But if we are completely honest as fans, we aren’t yet as good as TB. Maybe we can get there.

kskboys · Sep 12, 2021

glimmerman said:
That was surprising to me. With Gregory and D-Law I thought at least a few times we could give him fits. Give brady a pocket and about 3 seconds and he will hit someone.

Me too.

That is where the dirty little secret comes in. The DT's determine the DE's success to a large extent.

Think back on the Colts when they had bookend pass rushers in Mathis and Freeney. Two of the best pass rushers of their era. Sooooooooooooooo, what happened when they played NE in the playoffs? Those two were negated by lack of disruption by the DT's. It's relatively easy for the OT's to block the DE's if they only have to worry about one direction.

I find it amazing how many people don't comprehend how astonishing it was for Ware to do what he did w/ the lack of talent around him.

kskboys · Sep 12, 2021

Bobhaze said:
The biggest reason we lost this game…besides all the good ones listed here…is something most of us don’t want to admit. And it is this: The Buccaneers are currently a better football team than we are. They should not have won this game because of the 4 TOs they committed. But we let them off the hook.

Good football teams find a way to win even on nights they have too many TOs. We should have won that game. We have the opportunity to get better. And it’s too early in the season to make strong declarations about what our team is.

But if we are completely honest as fans, we aren’t yet as good as TB. Maybe we can get there.

Just need a bit more talent on D up front.

Bobhaze · Sep 12, 2021

kskboys said:
Just need a bit more talent on D up front.

(On loud speaker at the Star) “Attention Jerry and Stephen Jones. Please read the urgent message from long time Cowboys fan KSKboys on your desk. It explains why we haven’t been winning playoff games. That is all.”

Truth!

kskboys · Sep 12, 2021

Bobhaze said:
(On loud speaker at the Star) “Attention Jerry and Stephen Jones. Please read the urgent message from long time Cowboys fan KSKboys on your desk. It explains why we haven’t been winning playoff games. That is all.”

Truth!

And signing another bargain basement 3 tech type and putting him on the nose(Bruce Thornton, for example) does not work, has never worked, and never will work.

Bobhaze · Sep 12, 2021

kskboys said:
And signing another bargain basement 3 tech type and putting him on the nose(Bruce Thornton, for example) does not work, has never worked, and never will work.

It has become redundant. We need some trench talent that we have neglected for decades.

glimmerman · Sep 12, 2021

kskboys said:
Me too.

That is where the dirty little secret comes in. The DT's determine the DE's success to a large extent.

Think back on the Colts when they had bookend pass rushers in Mathis and Freeney. Two of the best pass rushers of their era. Sooooooooooooooo, what happened when they played NE in the playoffs? Those two were negated by lack of disruption by the DT's. It's relatively easy for the OT's to block the DE's if they only have to worry about one direction.

I find it amazing how many people don't comprehend how astonishing it was for Ware to do what he did w/ the lack of talent around him.

Ware was a special player. Was in a 3-4 and back then he played with perhaps more talent in the middle than we have now, which goes with what your talking about. Ware had Ratliff and Hatcher and Spears and maybe Canty.

kskboys · Sep 12, 2021

glimmerman said:
Ware was a special player. Was in a 3-4 and back then he played with perhaps more talent in the middle than we have now, which goes with what your talking about. Ware had Ratliff and Hatcher and Spears and maybe Canty.

Ratliff was played out of position negating his strengths, Spears = Nick Hayden, Hatcher had one really good year, Canty was great but wasn't there long.

glimmerman · Sep 12, 2021

kskboys said:
Ratliff was played out of position negating his strengths, Spears = Nick Hayden, Hatcher had one really good year, Canty was great but wasn't there long.

Do you think what we have now is better. We have young ones in there.

CowboyFrog · Sep 12, 2021

Bobhaze said:
The biggest reason we lost this game…besides all the good ones listed here…is something most of us don’t want to admit. And it is this: The Buccaneers are currently a better football team than we are. They should not have won this game because of the 4 TOs they committed. But we let them off the hook.

Good football teams find a way to win even on nights they have too many TOs. We should have won that game. We have the opportunity to get better. And it’s too early in the season to make strong declarations about what our team is.

But if we are completely honest as fans, we aren’t yet as good as TB. Maybe we can get there.

This the TB playmakers made plays in key moments..ours did not. Its fixable moving forward. I am pissed we let a game we should have won get away but I am looking forward to using the things we found and fixing the things we need to fix. Couple bad penalties, some blown routes, a bad sack, a couple horrible zone blitz call in our own red zone....these things are fixable.

glimmerman · Sep 12, 2021

kskboys said:
Ratliff was played out of position negating his strengths, Spears = Nick Hayden, Hatcher had one really good year, Canty was great but wasn't there long.

We got a few good years but ratliff was to small to be nose. Then took a contract and laid up and said he was hurt. Only to go to another team and play with no problem.

conner01 · Sep 12, 2021

JJHLH1 said:
We played the best QB in the league last night, and the NFL is all about the QB.

It gets easier from here on out. Even KC.

I don’t know about KC but for the most part we’ve played the best

FuzzyLumpkins · Sep 12, 2021

kskboys said:
Yes, it is. However, if you don't find a way to get to him, you lose. You simply cannot play a coverage type D vs Brady.

The way you get to him is through coverage. You have to force him through his progression.

Coogiguy03 · Sep 12, 2021

kskboys said:
Brady had a clean pocket all night. I only remember us even hitting him one time.

Yes, there were other reasons, there are always several, but that was the biggie. If you don't pressure Brady, he wins almost every time. Find a way.

Haimerej · Sep 12, 2021

gp_cowpolk said:
They scored more points than we did. End of story.

Yeah. Not sure why this staff chose to score less. Pretty sure you can't win that way.

kskboys · Sep 12, 2021

FuzzyLumpkins said:
The way you get to him is through coverage. You have to force him through his progression.

Exactly the opposite. Brady will tear coverage apart. He's done so consistently throughout his career, and has only been stopped by pressure. History, man, study it.

kskboys · Sep 12, 2021

glimmerman said:
Do you think what we have now is better. We have young ones in there.

No, it is not. I do have hope going forward.

rambo2 · Sep 12, 2021

Bobhaze said:
The biggest reason we lost this game…besides all the good ones listed here…is something most of us don’t want to admit. And it is this: The Buccaneers are currently a better football team than we are. They should not have won this game because of the 4 TOs they committed. But we let them off the hook.

Good football teams find a way to win even on nights they have too many TOs. We should have won that game. We have the opportunity to get better. And it’s too early in the season to make strong declarations about what our team is.

But if we are completely honest as fans, we aren’t yet as good as TB. Maybe we can get there.

I wonder if the Bucs are better if the ref throws the flag on the OPI or even on the helmet noncall. A very good chance that the Cowboys win with the proper calls on either of those 2 plays.

charron · Sep 12, 2021

Our front office built a skilled offense with no defense. What do you expect? We actually won the takeaways 4-1 and it didn't help. TB also had 11 penalties to overcome. Some of those takeaways helped lead us to points and even if we made the short FG and XP it's likely TB scores on us to win. They kicked the FG on purpose not necessity. Atleast we held Jones to a couple yards rushing and Fournette didn't do too much.

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