Injury Bug Hits Us Hard Because We Continue to Draft Injury Prone Players

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ninja said:
I believe the Ravens have had 11 or 14 players to IR so far. Saints lost 3 starters in their victory last week. SF is getting hit on the injury front again. The Raiders lost 4 players in their victory last week.
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Yeah if anyone thinks the Cowboys have a "injury" issue they simply aren't paying attention to the rest of the league. It could be far worse.
 
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Streetwise said:
Again, Smith didn't play the entire 2016 season. It not was a risk to begin with, but he hasn't paid off and he still got signed. I do think he'll be better without Nolan, but how much better?
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Yeah but he hasn't missed since he sat out...he got injured in college and 2016 was going to be his red shirt year. I'm just saying let's not act like Jaylon's "injuries" are the issue for him because its not. I think he will be serviceable under Quinn. He''s playing less snaps.....which means less screw ups. Will he be worth his contract? Nope. But I think at this point its about getting SOMETHING out of him while they can this year and do what they have to do next year.
 

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ArtClink said:
As this years list of injured players continues to mount, it seems common to act like injuries are unique to us and that other teams rarely have to contend with injuries. We know that is a false assumption.

Let's not forget that our "GM" loves to draft players with a history of college football injuries. In fact, here are the players on the defensive side of the ball (including last season) with a dubious injury history that Jerry insisted on drafting.
  1. Jaylon Smith - No GM in their right mind would have signed him except Jerry. His first two seasons were lost and he only played well one season. It's another instance where Jerry signed a player he liked, regardless if it made the roster better.
  2. Leighton Vander Esch - Neck injuries (had in college) continue to be concerning and we should have drafted the Alabama linebacker instead.
  3. Sean Lee - We got such a draft-day "steal" when in fact our "GM" ignored his injury history. Lee rarely played a full season and missed at least one complete season. Another instance of drafting an often injured player.
  4. DLaw - Continues to be injury-prone and unfortunately has experienced a drop in play after receiving his fat contract.
So let's not pretend that our organization functions like any of the other 31 teams. Our injury issues are compounded by Jerry's insistence on drafting players with a history of injuries. That is compounded by not being able to successfully draft in the later rounds which produce quality backups. Our backups are either totally new or has-beens that are recruited from Home Depot or from players that remain unsigned (for good reason) lol. There's a lot wrong with this franchise and injuries and a lack of quality backups are symptoms of having a non-football "GM" that has little time to invest in being a GM.
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I think this is an over reaction to DLaw getting injured. he wasn't injury prone in college or his first few years...

Jaylon was injured coming out of college, and after rehab has been available for every game. the question is, if he is good or not, but separate debate.

yes, Sean Lee and LVE were injury prone.

collins wasn't injury prone....got injured last year and then again this year....prior he played every game. Smith wasn't injury prone, but because of neck issues that he didn't address properly got injured past few years...but prior he played every game. Martin wasn't injury prone, until he got injured last year and missed the game because of Covid. Fredrick wasn't injury prone and in fact played every game until his Syndrome...well, what are you going to do?

so don't have a knee jerk reaction because DLaw broke his foot....when he has never broken his foot before....

yeah, definite over reaction on your part.
 
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rocyaice said:
Yeah but he hasn't missed since he sat out...he got injured in college and 2016 was going to be his red shirt year. I'm just saying let's not act like Jaylon's "injuries" are the issue for him because its not. I think he will be serviceable under Quinn. He''s playing less snaps.....which means less screw ups. Will he be worth his contract? Nope. But I think at this point its about getting SOMETHING out of him while they can this year and do what they have to do next year.
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He's quality depth, but he's just good.
 
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jazzcat22 said:
I agree, I did not like the pick knowing he would be sitting out a year. That is what you do in the late rounds.
But not Jerry, thinking he out smarts everyone.
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We should be used to it by now, but.....
 

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phildadon86 said:
Jaylon hasnt missed a game since he came back from his injury. Mind you he stinks. But whatever lol. And I wouldnt say DLaw is injury prone. The guy broke his foot. Not exactly something that can be helped.
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The problem is they can’t practice like they used too , they baby them ,not in football shape practice one day off 2 not how you get ready to play!
 
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jazzcat22 said:
I agree, I did not like the pick knowing he would be sitting out a year. That is what you do in the late rounds.
But not Jerry, thinking he out smarts everyone.
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I had no issue with it if they thought he was going to return to form. To get a potential top 8 pick in the draft in the 2nd round? All we have to risk is one year? I'm down with that. But they either were overconfident in their doctors or got some misinformation. For me to take him in the 2nd round I needed to think he'd get back to 100 percent of what he was.
 

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ArtClink said:
As this years list of injured players continues to mount, it seems common to act like injuries are unique to us and that other teams rarely have to contend with injuries. We know that is a false assumption.

Let's not forget that our "GM" loves to draft players with a history of college football injuries. In fact, here are the players on the defensive side of the ball (including last season) with a dubious injury history that Jerry insisted on drafting.
  1. Jaylon Smith - No GM in their right mind would have signed him except Jerry. His first two seasons were lost and he only played well one season. It's another instance where Jerry signed a player he liked, regardless if it made the roster better.
  2. Leighton Vander Esch - Neck injuries (had in college) continue to be concerning and we should have drafted the Alabama linebacker instead.
  3. Sean Lee - We got such a draft-day "steal" when in fact our "GM" ignored his injury history. Lee rarely played a full season and missed at least one complete season. Another instance of drafting an often injured player.
  4. DLaw - Continues to be injury-prone and unfortunately has experienced a drop in play after receiving his fat contract.
So let's not pretend that our organization functions like any of the other 31 teams. Our injury issues are compounded by Jerry's insistence on drafting players with a history of injuries. That is compounded by not being able to successfully draft in the later rounds which produce quality backups. Our backups are either totally new or has-beens that are recruited from Home Depot or from players that remain unsigned (for good reason) lol. There's a lot wrong with this franchise and injuries and a lack of quality backups are symptoms of having a non-football "GM" that has little time to invest in being a GM.
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You lost me with draft the Alabama linebacker. It is telling you don’t know his name.
 
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But they didn't continue this trend the past 2 drafts. I agree in the past there have been too many gambles. Made no sense at the time. Jerry thought he was outsmarting everyone.
 
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phildadon86 said:
Jaylon hasnt missed a game since he came back from his injury. Mind you he stinks. But whatever lol. And I wouldnt say DLaw is injury prone. The guy broke his foot. Not exactly something that can be helped.
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Injuries happen because of your body not being ready to be put into those positions. 100% zero camp snaps attributed to the injury.
 
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rocyaice said:
Yeah but he hasn't missed since he sat out...he got injured in college and 2016 was going to be his red shirt year. I'm just saying let's not act like Jaylon's "injuries" are the issue for him because its not. I think he will be serviceable under Quinn. He''s playing less snaps.....which means less screw ups. Will he be worth his contract? Nope. But I think at this point its about getting SOMETHING out of him while they can this year and do what they have to do next year.
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At least the team recognized LB was a need. Seen a lot of folks say we are one step too late but this year they knew an upgrade would deem well for the future of this team cap and talent wise
 
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phildadon86 said:
Jaylon hasnt missed a game since he came back from his injury. Mind you he stinks. But whatever lol. And I wouldnt say DLaw is injury prone. The guy broke his foot. Not exactly something that can be helped.
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D-Law has had issues with his back over the years(3 surgeries in 6 years). 2nd time he has had that fracture in his foot per Todd Archer.
 

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ArtClink said:
As this years list of injured players continues to mount, it seems common to act like injuries are unique to us and that other teams rarely have to contend with injuries. We know that is a false assumption.

Let's not forget that our "GM" loves to draft players with a history of college football injuries. In fact, here are the players on the defensive side of the ball (including last season) with a dubious injury history that Jerry insisted on drafting.
  1. Jaylon Smith - No GM in their right mind would have signed him except Jerry. His first two seasons were lost and he only played well one season. It's another instance where Jerry signed a player he liked, regardless if it made the roster better.
  2. Leighton Vander Esch - Neck injuries (had in college) continue to be concerning and we should have drafted the Alabama linebacker instead.
  3. Sean Lee - We got such a draft-day "steal" when in fact our "GM" ignored his injury history. Lee rarely played a full season and missed at least one complete season. Another instance of drafting an often injured player.
  4. DLaw - Continues to be injury-prone and unfortunately has experienced a drop in play after receiving his fat contract.
So let's not pretend that our organization functions like any of the other 31 teams. Our injury issues are compounded by Jerry's insistence on drafting players with a history of injuries. That is compounded by not being able to successfully draft in the later rounds which produce quality backups. Our backups are either totally new or has-beens that are recruited from Home Depot or from players that remain unsigned (for good reason) lol. There's a lot wrong with this franchise and injuries and a lack of quality backups are symptoms of having a non-football "GM" that has little time to invest in being a GM.
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1. Yes, Jaylon was injured. He lost one season. His 2017 season was ok, 2018 was really good and has regressed since then. Has not missed any time from injury since he started playing in 2017
2. No arguement here
3. Sean Lee had one injury in college (torn acl). Lots of players have torn acl's and never have problems again. He was a good pick at the time. Hindsight is telling you it wasn't a good pick because of all the injuries that piled up in the NFL
4. DLaw did not have any injuries in college. His injury issues started in training camp his rookie year and have plagued him on and off since then. But there were no injury red flags when dallas drafted him.
 

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ArtClink said:
Lookup the draft when we picked LVE and a few picks later you will find an Alabama LB.
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I know who he is. He got his 5th year option declined too. If you bothered to look him up, you would realize he is JAG. LVE was a mistake but he has made more of an impact then Rashad Evans.
 
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