Coaching and mental toughness being checked early

75boyz

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These are key positions and there is several of them.

Gallup will be easy to overcome.

La’el and both starting D Ends will not.

Our only hope is Dak or Zeke carrying the team but Dallas is screwed until November. Just gotta hope we stay healthy until then.

Yep, I'm good with Wilson/Brown in for Gallup.

Hopefully Quinn could make scheme adjustments to utilize Parsons more as a primary pass rusher to minimize the loss of the DEs or gosh forbid, even boost a more consistent pass rush pressure.

Lael's loss impact is what I will be watching most closely.

If Philbin/Moore can scheme over that somehow, they may be able to ride out the storm based on what you said here about Dak/Zeke carrying the team.

The biggest finger crossed hope is Tyron staying healthy. If he goes down, it ALL starts looking like last year again. All of it. Trickle down effect.

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Good points. But I think coaching is still going to matter. Can this staff squeeze the best performances out of their backups? Will they have help in certain situations?

And mental toughness is going to be required of this team to not think, “Here we go again”.

I agree, Robert.

I also expect us to fail that test.
 

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This team just doesn’t have enough discipline . One starter out on banned substances , two already out on C- Protocol, and two early injuries . One being in practice which isn’t good.

Not sure if we can hold our Head Puppet responsible for our lack of discipline as it’s probably our owner and ringleader. But regardless whether we have enough talent , a lack of leadership will stall this team out.
 

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This team just doesn’t have enough discipline . One starter out on banned substances , two already out on C- Protocol, and two early injuries . One being in practice which isn’t good.

Not sure if we can hold our Head Puppet responsible for our lack of discipline as it’s probably our owner and ringleader. But regardless whether we have enough talent , a lack of leadership will stall this team out.
Certainly has in the past.
 

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Every HC must ask himself if he's got a "Next Man Up" team and if his team believes that.

Does anyone see the Cowboys as a "Next Man Up" team or is it a "Stars'" team?

Be careful how you answer that because we've got the last few seasons as evidence.

And let's take 2016 as an example. Romo, the only real star other than Witten, goes down and a rookie QB and RB take over but was it them or did every player on that team realize they had to up their game, they couldn't rely on the Houdini QB any longer? In 2016, they played like a "Next Man Up' Team but not since then.

Building a team is a tough challenge when you work for an owner that's all about the stars and the entertainment part of the sport. Not saying he's wrong but that is tough on a coaching staff when they have to play "Next Man Up" ball.

This team is getting the chance very early on to test their character and see if they're a team or a collection of individual players.

Troy Aikman had a quote about character that I think is excellent and it's just not about football. "Adversity doesn't create character but it does define it".

Forget the backups and who plays RT or DE. Can they play as a team? That is a tall order on the defense with a lot of moving parts but that's why they have coaches, the true leaders of every team. Who do you think BAL, LVR, PIT and KC point to as their leaders? Mahomes isn't the leader of that team, Andy Reid is. Tomlin, Harbaugh and Gruden are the unchallenged leaders of their teams.

Can you say that about the Cowboys? Parcells was the last leader of any Cowboys team.
 

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Tampa didn’t complain when they were down several DBs, we have to press on.
I do not see the Cowboys complaining, they realize this is the game. I cannot think of any present HC that has had to deal with the injuries any more than McCarthy, the man once started 5 OG's in a playoff game and won. He had to convert a WR to a RB out of necessity.

If there is any HC in the NFL more battle worn from injuries, I don't know who that would be.
 

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I think there's some kinda middle ground or blurred area of how impactful will certain starters loss be. Offensively especially.

Case in point is Steele's start at RT may or may not reveal the drastic drop in talent from starter to backup and the corresponding overall impact on the offense

But you take away Tyron as well and I believe the offense would suffer immensely.
Regardless of Philbin's coaching or who is quarterbacking.

Admittedly, I'm not the biggest DLaw fan and kinda agree with your version of next man up and defer to Quinn's coaching up and assumed scheme adjustment for said loss.

But I guess I'm on the fence as to measuring how specific personnel loss impacts overall team dysfunction. Starting QB is a given.

Kinda varies with all others depending mostly on that year's team and coaching ability or lack thereof.

Just my opinion though.

Aye all i'm saying is the defense gave up 30 points anyway. I saw Zack Martin went out and McGovern filled in. Who's the McGovern to fill in on defense? We have all these guys at defensive end we claim we are "deep" at....Armstrong, Anae.....alright let's see them get their McGovern on. Guys have to step up. That's the NFL. That's the difference between winners and losers in the NFL.
 

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That’s certainly been true in the past. I’m anxious to see how Big Mac, his staff and the players respond to the latest challenges. It’s a new year.

Yeah, but 20 of those 31 teams have all won SBs since we last did. And 25 of them have won at least a divisional playoff game. We haven’t done much in so long. Time to change that right?

The year GB won the Superbowl, they had a ton of injuries.
 

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Aye all i'm saying is the defense gave up 30 points anyway. I saw Zack Martin went out and McGovern filled in. Who's the McGovern to fill in on defense? We have all these guys at defensive end we claim we are "deep" at....Armstrong, Anae.....alright let's see them get their McGovern on. Guys have to step up. That's the NFL. That's the difference between winners and losers in the NFL.

True that. I'm hoping Quinn can create his McGovern on defense by adjusting the scheme and sending Parsons as a pass rusher. I am not sure Steele possesses the ability to get his McGovern on but hopefully with Zack's help and possibly some chip blocks from the TE and Zeke his performance won't be quite a negative.

That's my version.
 

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True that. I'm hoping Quinn can create his McGovern on defense by adjusting the scheme and sending Parsons as a pass rusher. I am not sure Steele possesses the ability to get his McGovern on but hopefully with Zack's help and possibly some chip blocks from the TE and Zeke his performance won't be quite a negative.

That's my version.
Yeah its time for Quinn to show us what he's about. Or if he's in the same vein as the other coaches we've had....they can't produce unless they have everyone healthy and even then its iffy.

I think they're going to give Steele a lot of help if need be. They have to see something there to keep starting him like this.
 

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There's only one thing constant that's been here for the past 25 years....we can scapegoat Dak, Zeke, Lawrence or whoever but at the end of the day this team hasn't won anything long before they even thought of football. Hell Lamb wasn't even born.
and they wont win the first three superbowl wins were on jimmy johnson jerry the rube jones has no idea how to build a real nfl team and neither does his son
 

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Talent alone in never enough to be an NFL contender. Coaching matters a ton. The ability to challenge, organize and motivate nearly 60 adult professional athletes to consistently perform at a high level and with unity of purpose is what separates good coaches from great coaches.

We are about to find out very early this season, how well this coaching staff can meet this challenge.

And on the players side, being a quality NFL team requires toughness. Physical and mental toughness. Every year adversity strikes all NFL teams through injuries, controversies, locker room divisions, losing streaks, etc. It takes players having mental toughness to fight through those problems to win.

The gateway to NFL glory is guarded by adversity. Having talent helps. But it takes some great coaching and a large dose of toughness to get through those gates. We are going to find out very early this season the quality of the coaching staff and the mental toughness of the players.

This is not the type of test the 21st century Cowboys have passed often. We both know how it usually goes, unfortunately.
 

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Talent alone in never enough to be an NFL contender. Coaching matters a ton. The ability to challenge, organize and motivate nearly 60 adult professional athletes to consistently perform at a high level and with unity of purpose is what separates good coaches from great coaches.

We are about to find out very early this season, how well this coaching staff can meet this challenge.

And on the players side, being a quality NFL team requires toughness. Physical and mental toughness. Every year adversity strikes all NFL teams through injuries, controversies, locker room divisions, losing streaks, etc. It takes players having mental toughness to fight through those problems to win.

The gateway to NFL glory is guarded by adversity. Having talent helps. But it takes some great coaching and a large dose of toughness to get through those gates. We are going to find out very early this season the quality of the coaching staff and the mental toughness of the players.

0-2 kills our season.

we need the win.
 

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Talent alone in never enough to be an NFL contender. Coaching matters a ton. The ability to challenge, organize and motivate nearly 60 adult professional athletes to consistently perform at a high level and with unity of purpose is what separates good coaches from great coaches.

We are about to find out very early this season, how well this coaching staff can meet this challenge.

And on the players side, being a quality NFL team requires toughness. Physical and mental toughness. Every year adversity strikes all NFL teams through injuries, controversies, locker room divisions, losing streaks, etc. It takes players having mental toughness to fight through those problems to win.

The gateway to NFL glory is guarded by adversity. Having talent helps. But it takes some great coaching and a large dose of toughness to get through those gates. We are going to find out very early this season the quality of the coaching staff and the mental toughness of the players.
This is all cute until you pull back the camera on the players and see who is orchestrating this circus.

Principles of football do not apply in the world of the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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Every HC must ask himself if he's got a "Next Man Up" team and if his team believes that.

Does anyone see the Cowboys as a "Next Man Up" team or is it a "Stars'" team?

Be careful how you answer that because we've got the last few seasons as evidence.

And let's take 2016 as an example. Romo, the only real star other than Witten, goes down and a rookie QB and RB take over but was it them or did every player on that team realize they had to up their game, they couldn't rely on the Houdini QB any longer? In 2016, they played like a "Next Man Up' Team but not since then.

Building a team is a tough challenge when you work for an owner that's all about the stars and the entertainment part of the sport. Not saying he's wrong but that is tough on a coaching staff when they have to play "Next Man Up" ball.

This team is getting the chance very early on to test their character and see if they're a team or a collection of individual players.

Troy Aikman had a quote about character that I think is excellent and it's just not about football. "Adversity doesn't create character but it does define it".

Forget the backups and who plays RT or DE. Can they play as a team? That is a tall order on the defense with a lot of moving parts but that's why they have coaches, the true leaders of every team. Who do you think BAL, LVR, PIT and KC point to as their leaders? Mahomes isn't the leader of that team, Andy Reid is. Tomlin, Harbaugh and Gruden are the unchallenged leaders of their teams.

Can you say that about the Cowboys? Parcells was the last leader of any Cowboys team.
One of the best descriptions of this team and it’s challenges I’ve seen.
 
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