Dak’s Last 16 starts: 5,734 Yards, 36 Tds

CowboyRoy

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The Daksters can’t have it both ways. If he gets credit for leading the team to victory, he should also get credit for leading them in losses. Yes, there are a lot of Dak fans that sees this one way. If Dallas loses, it was the defense’s fault, the oline’s fault, the WRs fault, Zeke’s fault, etc. If Dallas wins, Dak and his stats led them to victory. When the team loses, yes , Dak should share in some of the blame just like the rest of the team. If somebody wants to nit-pick, they could easily point out the failures that caused the team to kick field goals instead scoring TDs. That is just one example, but fans can find plenty of failures to support their argument and place blame wherever they want to.

Actually you just have to watch the game to see who plays well. Anyone watching last weeks game thinking Dak was the reason we lost is just plain stupid.

But here you are........................
 

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Dak was the 3rd team QB at the beginning of the 2016 training camp.

Now, the former 1st string quarterback going into 2016 describes Dak's exploits for fans watching TV. Not only that, but the former 2nd string quarterback going into 2016 actually designs the plays that feature Dak's exploits.

A little weird?

The 2011-2013 Dallas Cowboys entered week 17 every year with an 8-7 record. Every single year the division championship was still on the line, and every year Dallas lost the final game to lose the division.

Not only that, every single year they lost the division-deciding game on the last Sunday of the year to the other team that was in contention to win the division; it was set up as a divisional-championship bout at the end of the season, year-in year-out. As a scheduling quirk, that’s almost an impossibility.

Not only that, but each year was a different team. There are only 3 other teams in the NFCE, and in 3 consecutive years Dallas lost the division to each one of them in order by playing the last game of the season while both teams were in contention, only for Dallas to end exactly 8-8 every single year. First Giants, then Washington, then Eagles. That is the most impossible stat in the history of organized football.


Relative to that, no I don’t think how the 2016 QB room played out to now is really that weird at all.
 

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Dak led Dallas Cowboys in his last 38 games: 20 wins 18 losses

Yeah, he is such a stud. LOL

Seems the only one taking a beating are the Dallas fans thinking Dak will lead this team to a Super Bowl.

I dont think anyone thinks the Cowboys are going to the SB. LOL

Team isnt good enough. Dak is plenty good enough.

Dak is a complete stud. The fact that the team around him isnt doesnt change that fact.

The Dak cry babies like you that claimed Dak was nothing more than a bus driving avg QB have been proven dead wrong.

Dak is one of the top QB's in the NFL just as guys like me predicted 5 years ago.

And you simply cant handle it. :yourock::yourock::yourock:
 

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Dak led Dallas Cowboys in his last 38 games: 20 wins 18 losses

Yeah, he is such a stud. LOL

Seems the only one taking a beating are the Dallas fans thinking Dak will lead this team to a Super Bowl.


Why is it a bad thing for a fan to think that? Again for someone who wants to not be told how to be a fan you sure try and tell people what to think alot.
 

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Why is it a bad thing for a fan to think that? Again for someone who wants to not be told how to be a fan you sure try and tell people what to think alot.

Did I say it was bad to think anything? I simply pointed out facts but thanks.
 

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I dont think anyone thinks the Cowboys are going to the SB. LOL

Team isnt good enough. Dak is plenty good enough.

Dak is a complete stud. The fact that the team around him isnt doesnt change that fact.

The Dak cry babies like you that claimed Dak was nothing more than a bus driving avg QB have been proven dead wrong.

Dak is one of the top QB's in the NFL just as guys like me predicted 5 years ago.

And you simply cant handle it. :yourock::yourock::yourock:


Bus driving Dak with Zeke as the focus: 13 wins 3 losses

Passing Dak as the focus: 29 wins 25 losses

Yeah, proven so wrong.
 

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Bus driving Dak with Zeke as the focus: 13 wins 3 losses

Passing Dak as the focus: 29 wins 25 losses

Yeah, proven so wrong.

Well what happened to Zeke? LOL

Im sure we would win a lot more games if Dak didnt have to do everything.

But the fact that Dak can do what you said he cant makes you the loser here.

When Dak was driving the bus and we were winning 13 games it wasnt enough for you? You wanted a stud QB that can throw for 400 yards and carry the team.

"Its all about the QB" Remember those dumb words?

Now you have one and you are begging for a bus driver again. LOL

Some people are just too stupid to realize the team around the QB matters. Poor guy, you just dont understand football.
 

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Bus driving Dak with Zeke as the focus: 13 wins 3 losses

Passing Dak as the focus: 29 wins 25 losses

Yeah, proven so wrong.


So I'm want to get to the bottom of this with you, Do you think this current team could run the 2016 offense? If so do you think the current team could hold on Defense the same as the 2016? Again I think the only thing about that I would argue is...Dak would be just fine running that offense if it could work. Again I dont believe Dak is the one wanting to thrwo the ball 58 times and watching the Defense give up 30+ points. I think we could agree if you put the blame where it should go which is the FO and HC. Dak being better at passing would only make the 2016 offense MORE powerful...I agree as I think Dak also does...not being balanced is a problem (Balanced being runs/ los screens and such) but needing to get as many possesions as we can to keep up is the reality of this team right now..
 

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So I'm want to get to the bottom of this with you, Do you think this current team could run the 2016 offense? If so do you think the current team could hold on Defense the same as the 2016? Again I think the only thing about that I would argue is...Dak would be just fine running that offense if it could work. Again I dont believe Dak is the one wanting to thrwo the ball 58 times and watching the Defense give up 30+ points. I think we could agree if you put the blame where it should go which is the FO and HC. Dak being better at passing would only make the 2016 offense MORE powerful...I agree as I think Dak also does...not being balanced is a problem (Balanced being runs/ los screens and such) but needing to get as many possesions as we can to keep up is the reality of this team right now..

When Dak was driving the bus and winning, these turds wanted a QB that could throw for 400 yards and 3 TD's.

Now they have one and they want a bud driver again. LOL

At the end of the day they finally learned the lesson we were trying to teach them. That its NOT all about the QB.

Even trolls can learn something it seems.
 

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Why is it a bad thing for a fan to think that? Again for someone who wants to not be told how to be a fan you sure try and tell people what to think alot.

I havent heard one fan say that Dak is taking us to a SB. Most of us understand that the team around the QB matters. USArmyTroll hasnt learned that yet.
 

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When Dak was driving the bus and winning, these turds wanted a QB that could throw for 400 yards and 3 TD's.

Now they have one and they want a bud driver again. LOL

At the end of the day they finally learned the lesson we were trying to teach them. That its NOT all about the QB.

Even trolls can learn something it seems.


yes and my point is I think we would all love to see the 2016 team with Dak being the passer he is now (including the players on this team)...being that dominant up front was a huge advantage that we dont have now. I guess I dont understand why Dak gets blamed for how this has changed. He would be happy throwing the ball 25 time with 250- 300 off PA and winning games 25 to 14 ...why would anyone think that is not the case.
 

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I havent heard one fan say that Dak is taking us to a SB. Most of us understand that the team around the QB matters. USArmyTroll hasnt learned that yet.


I'm an optimist Ill admit that...I get ready for every season finding what could leead us to the ring.. Does it have some delusions the last 25 years ..yes but it is how I want to get ready for the season ...and I'm good with that.
 

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yes and my point is I think we would all love to see the 2016 team with Dak being the passer he is now (including the players on this team)...being that dominant up front was a huge advantage that we dont have now. I guess I dont understand why Dak gets blamed for how this has changed. He would be happy throwing the ball 25 time with 250- 300 off PA and winning games 25 to 14 ...why would anyone think that is not the case.

They blame Dak because they arent man enough to admit they were wrong. Dak has proven to be a much better QB then they said he was and it kills them. So all they can do is deflect the lack of team success on Dak.

Any fool can see Dak is the only thing keeping this team in games.
 

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Well what happened to Zeke? LOL

Im sure we would win a lot more games if Dak didnt have to do everything.

But the fact that Dak can do what you said he cant makes you the loser here.

When Dak was driving the bus and we were winning 13 games it wasnt enough for you? You wanted a stud QB that can throw for 400 yards and carry the team.

"Its all about the QB" Remember those dumb words?

Now you have one and you are begging for a bus driver again. LOL

Some people are just too stupid to realize the team around the QB matters. Poor guy, you just dont understand football.


Your insults will continue to get you benched.
 

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If these stats had any meaning, he wouldn’t be complete garbage in the 4th quarter within 7, which clearly attest to the fact he’s padding stats against soft defenses, content with burning time off the clock.

Dudes numbers in 2020 with his whopping 4.6 YPC and 61% completion percentage, with 0 TDs and 1 INT is even worse than Andy Dalton, who didn’t even play with Zach Martin.

So Dak-stand can slobber all they want about defense allegedly collapsing and the team didn’t come through, but the numbers clearly say it’s Dak…
 

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And the reality is, this team is still contingent on Zeke. Even in these statistical years, Dallas is top in terms of play action usage. Dak was sacked a whopping 1 time, despite throwing it 58 times and TB trying to blitz for three straight quarters.

Facts are it took Dak like 5 years to exploit man coverage match-ups he was seeing all the time. Wow, so elite!?!? Still chokes when his first read is covered, attested to by his being consistently in the top 4 in QBR dropping going from first read to second read, and so on. Even against TB he was basically playing pitch and catch with Amari in 1 on 1. Still goes into a complete shell when down by 7 in the 4th, when defenses get tight again.
 
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