Will Jerry Name Kellen Moore The Head Coach Before Someone Else Does?

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If someone wants Moore for head coach, they can have him if you ask me. He's not a leader of men, so good luck with that endeavor.

Why do you say that? He was a successful college QB, and when his pro career went south he kept working with the team and created himself a new role. Looks like he is a hard worker!
 

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McVay Shanahan LaFleur McDerrmott and yes Tomlin 10 yrs ago Siriani in Philly ….if I called the shots for an NFL club I would choose a young assistant who’s in the NFL or was recently in the NFL over the retread tire section of the store. Jerrah went retread to replace Garrrett as everyone knew he would . Let’s see what happens I certainly think this is a playoff caliber club .

No thanks to coaches who’s resume is strictly college . When things fell apart in Atlanta for Bobby Petrino who came from the college ranks one of the veterans in the lockeroom was glad to see him go saying “ this is a man’s league.”

The beauty of hiring a young coordinator such as McVey or Shanahan, is the offense they run as OCs stays with
a team when they become HCs.
Regardless if their OC's pursue HC gigs elsewhere.

- Ditto with Sean Payton.,..ditto with Andy Reid. It's their offense.
If Matt Nagy goes to Chi Town, that Chiefs offense is still in KC land.

- If Kellen becomes HC here, that offense that Dak has been developed and now excelling at, stays here.
Dak would not have to concerned about learning a totally new offense.
That just has to stick in the minds of the Jones.
 

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They were talking on the game broadcast about how Kellen Moore is going to be a head coach somewhere next season. He'll be a hot commodity.


Does Jerry keep McCarthy if we have a nice playoff run and take the chance on losing Moore?

Does Jerry get rid of McCarthy with anything less than a Super Bowl run and make Moore the HC?

Will Jerry be able to keep Moore on as the OC until McCarthy's time is done?


I believe Jerry is in a tough spot. Because he clearly is grooming Moore for that HC spot and Moore might not want to wait around.
let moore walk.....I don't think he is all that and just because we are enamoured with him between the 20s, doesn't mean he is going to be a good head coach...some people are just meant to be coordinators and they excel at it. and plus, he only has 3 years of experience. he became OC too soon. he is still learning. his first two years were full of mistakes. perhaps our bar is set at Garrett and Moore just looks great next to garrett. I am not ready for him to be HC.
 
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Could Moore become a head coach next year? Sure.

But didn't he interview with NFL teams and either didn't get offered or didn't accept any offers? Looks like it.

Plus, wasn't the Boise State job his for the taking but he flat out declined it? If I remember correctly, yes.

I'm pretty sure if KM wanted to leave, he had his chances, especially Boise St, during the offseason.

I'm not saying he won't leave, but it would seem he is not LOOKING to leave.

So I have a feeling that KM may be the Cowboys next head coach, but outside missing the playoffs, I think that is 2+ years down the line. Jerry can just throw money at KM until then.

JMHO
 

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i'd wonder if the New England situation is a unique one itself.
i would think a young hot head like McDaniels with such an ego would not want to continue waiting his young years
behind legendary Belly.

i think Belly loves football too much, even at his current age.. loves coaching so much ..and he has his foundation QB for years to come. And now Belly is a position to prolong his career.
Is McDaniels that content with remaining OC ?

Jerry hired the OC (Garrett) even before he hired the eventual head coach. Who and what other NFL team does that ?

That's what had people thinking there had to be a hidden agenda behind the Wade Phillips hiring, but if we had
hired Norv Turner who was in very heavy consideration ( but his reported choice as the DC crushed that deal)
Garrett would've still been the OC.

Who would have been his DC?
 

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Let the kid learn and be OC for a few more years... Come contract time to be over for Mike then see how the Boys did for these few years and make a decision. One thing I know is that Moore better figure out how to get in the Endzone when inside the 20 a little better.. Cant say I know another team that's much worse..
 

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I guess I am not seeing it. What is it about Moore's offense that is so special? We don't really do anything innovative. He avoids attacking the middle of the field. On third and short he never ever calls quick slants. His redzone offense is not great. When we have the running game going, he doesn't utilize play action. I mean the list can go on. In my opinion he's a decent OC but nothing really special. Guys like this are a dime a dozen. I think if he left, he could be easily replaced.

Doesn’t attack the middle ? I disagree.
Such an example was that dropped pass by Lamb that turned into a tipped INT vs the Bucs was over the middle.,

- Dak does play action and ball handling very often …
- Never calls for quick slants ? we see slant passes from Cooper, Lamb, Schultz, etc all the time
- Yeh keep going on, .. because some of things you’re calling out, is just the opposite.
- I believe our offense could have scored more points, even the Chargers offense did not keep us on the field, so much, so often.
And thank you Bones-head Fassell for denying us a 2 minute offense for possible TD points
 

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They were talking on the game broadcast about how Kellen Moore is going to be a head coach somewhere next season. He'll be a hot commodity.


Does Jerry keep McCarthy if we have a nice playoff run and take the chance on losing Moore?

Does Jerry get rid of McCarthy with anything less than a Super Bowl run and make Moore the HC?

Will Jerry be able to keep Moore on as the OC until McCarthy's time is done?


I believe Jerry is in a tough spot. Because he clearly is grooming Moore for that HC spot and Moore might not want to wait around.
I see Garrett-Wade all over again.
 

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I guess I am not seeing it. What is it about Moore's offense that is so special? We don't really do anything innovative. He avoids attacking the middle of the field. On third and short he never ever calls quick slants. His redzone offense is not great. When we have the running game going, he doesn't utilize play action. I mean the list can go on. In my opinion he's a decent OC but nothing really special. Guys like this are a dime a dozen. I think if he left, he could be easily replaced.

Don’t anything innovative ?
-We operate multiple pre-snap motion and formations and move personnel around that it keeps team guessing, mis-guessing on what we’ll try to do.

-With the quick huddle tempo pace, along with the pre-snap motion offense and it takes a wear-toll on defenses,
physically and mentally

- Kellen has an very effective route design in his pass game scheme. Schemes works to help get players open
quickly and on the run,

- IMO, We do a impeccable job of spreading the ball around to various personnel .

- in 2019, in Moore’s rookie first year as OC, we were No.1 in total yards gain per game (even over the KC chiefs, Bucs)
- we were 5th in NFL rushing
- we were 2nd in passing per game
- we were 6th in NFL in scoring with 27.1
- we were 2nd in the NFL in 3rd down %

We scored almost 30 points on a Super bowl caliber defense vs Bucs,..and On the Road, in a hostile at that.

Kellen is not perfect, Is there room for improvement, of course,
The Red zone efficiency and player personnel settings can/should be much better.
I'm not always in love with his run scheme.
I used to blast Kellen for being conservative on the Road, ..maybe that seems to be changing
I used to blast him for not using the RBs in pass game enuff and not using Pollard enuff, ..that seems to be changing too.
He's still learning but he also has shown a great foundation to build off from,,.imo.
 

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There were 2 offensive coordinators.....in the SUPER BOWL last year....that are still with their SAME team....and we are discussing losing an offensive coordinator from a team that has not made the Super Bowl in 25 years??????

This is the kind of stuff that gets you STUCK with Jason Garrett for 13 years (offensive coordinator + head coach).

This is how the streak of not making a Super Bowl goes from 12 years to 25 years. (the span of Jason Garrett reign)

The arrogance in Dallas is a big reason WHY we are in this rut...and trust me...the rest of the league LAUGHS at our arrogance!
 

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Don’t anything innovative ?
-We operate multiple pre-snap motion and formations and move personnel around that it keeps team guessing, mis-guessing on what we’ll try to do.

-With the quick huddle tempo pace, along with the pre-snap motion offense and it takes a wear-toll on defenses,
physically and mentally

- Kellen has an very effective route design in his pass game scheme. Schemes works to help get players open
quickly and on the run,

- IMO, We do a impeccable job of spreading the ball around to various personnel .

- in 2019, in Moore’s rookie first year as OC, we were No.1 in total yards gain per game (even over the KC chiefs, Bucs)
- we were 5th in NFL rushing
- we were 2nd in passing per game
- we were 6th in NFL in scoring with 27.1
- we were 2nd in the NFL in 3rd down %

We scored almost 30 points on a Super bowl caliber defense vs Bucs,..and On the Road, in a hostile at that.

Kellen is not perfect, Is there room for improvement, of course,
The Red zone efficiency and player personnel settings can/should be much better.
I'm not always in love with his run scheme.
I used to blast Kellen for being conservative on the Road, ..maybe that seems to be changing
I used to blast him for not using the RBs in pass game enuff and not using Pollard enuff, ..that seems to be changing too.
He's still learning but he also has shown a great foundation to build off from,,.imo.
All your points are basic things that almost every OC is and should be doing. Again, nothing earth shattering. As far the stats go, a lot of OC's are going to put those type numbers up with Dak, Zeke, Pollard, Cooper, Lamb............
In a nutshell, KM is by no means some wunderkind taking the league by storm. He's a decent OC at best right now.
 

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All your points are basic things that almost every OC is and should be doing. Again, nothing earth shattering. As far the stats go, a lot of OC's are going to put those type numbers up with Dak, Zeke, Pollard, Cooper, Lamb............
In a nutshell, KM is by no means some wunderkind taking the league by storm. He's a decent OC at best right now.

" Should be " .. but around the NFL, we don't always see that.
That's why we see teams underachieve even we'd think they have the player personnel to achieve more.

We brought Amari Cooper aboard when Scott Linehan was still here as OC in 2018, (ala big trade with Radas for Cooper) and there was much the talk of how stagnant and predictable we were under Linehan.
Same formations, same tendency, same plays called over, hardly a change up look, bland pass designs, etc.

I'm not wanting to take a chance of a lesser OC, lessening players to be better
 

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Kellen Moore will wait just like Garrett did.
Moore knows what Jerry is looking for ... the next Tom Landry.
And this is the Dallas FREAKING Cowboys.
You can bet if Jerry wants to hire Moore as coach one day, Moore already knows it.
And one thing about Jerry, he is loyal to a fault.
If the position is his, Kellen Moore will ride Mike McCarthy out.
 

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My problem is (not saying its the way to look at it) to me he is basically one of the guys to these players.....can he in fact have a strong conversation with a Tyron, Zack, Dak, Zeke, Tank...the dud looks 12 still...again its probably a horrible way to look at how the NFL players react...
 
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