Twitter: Jerry Jones on Running Back situation

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Everybody knows this except for the people who are insanely jealous of Zeke's paycheck. If the guy signing the paychecks don't mind why the hell should I?

Sure, and like Jerry admit you were wrong. If your man enough.
 

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The Cowboys drafted a RB in the 1st round in back to back years, 1969 and 1970. They both earned Rookie of the Year honors.

So what did Landry do? The obvious. He made Duane Thomas the FB and Calvin Hill the RB in 1971.

The results? Super Bowl championship. Roger Staubach wasn't the only story that season. That offense was ranked #1 in both points and yards.

In the three playoff games that year, including the Super Bowl, Staubach never threw more than 19 passes.
 

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No owner is gonna rank his players
The depth chart kinda does that for them
Doesnt matter, both RBs are threat and both backs offer Moore to expand the running game.
Just because Pollard took over vs SD doesnt and should not take anything away from Zekes value to this offense,, bet Zeke is loving the fact that
he has a partner that can share the burden of an extra long season.
Ive been pushing for that RB3 and been laughed at over the notion, now we add a sure handed 3rd option in Clement.
As a betting man I bet that even Clement becomes a fan favorite this season.
He was the RB3 this team needed, but I digress... I know you get it already,, just saying most peeps are busy comparing Pollard vs Zeke....
Im saying we should be enjoying this very diverse ground game... 3 deep if needed.
 

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I'll be glad when Pollard leaves after next year so we won't have to have this discussion anymore.
 

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funny how when you draft talent sometimes you end up with multiple quality players at a position.

they are complimentary players. they both deserve touches. enjoy the season.
 

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Sure, and like Jerry admit you were wrong. If your man enough.

Dude stop embarrassing yourself with this..

Here are Pollard's and Zeke's last four games side by side

Pollard Zeke
9-12 19-105 ..
5-15 14-42
3-14 11-33
13-109 16-71

Notice anything? There were two games when both guys had little success.. and one game where one guy outgained the other by almost 100 yards.

The big difference is that in a game where Pollard averaged 1.3 ypc carry Zeke averaged over 5.

Now I have been hearing for two years now that when a guy averages a more yards per carry he's better.. So in this game where Zeke averaged FOUR YARD MORE per carry where is the justification to start Pollard? I recall yall being pretty quiet that week.

You people seem to come out of the woodwork with this noise every time Pollard has a good game. Unfortunately for yall he seems to only do this 3-4 times a year. So enjoy this week.. You may not get another chance to crow like this for another month.. Frankly I hope not.. I enjoy watching both guys work.. and the offense is better when both are effective. I like Pollard in the role he's in and I like Zeke where he is.. You think Pollard would be a better option to start.. Fine.. you're entitled to your opinion. I disagree.. Until Pollard performs at this level in at least half his games it's not even really worth discussing.
 

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Dude stop embarrassing yourself with this..

Here are Pollard's and Zeke's last four games side by side

Pollard Zeke
9-12 19-105 ..
5-15 14-42
3-14 11-33
13-109 16-71

Notice anything? There were two games when both guys had little success.. and one game where one guy outgained the other by almost 100 yards.

The big difference is that in a game where Pollard averaged 1.3 ypc carry Zeke averaged over 5.

Now I have been hearing for two years now that when a guy averages a more yards per carry he's better.. So in this game where Zeke averaged FOUR YARD MORE per carry where is the justification to start Pollard? I recall yall being pretty quiet that week.

You people seem to come out of the woodwork with this noise every time Pollard has a good game. Unfortunately for yall he seems to only do this 3-4 times a year. So enjoy this week.. You may not get another chance to crow like this for another month.. Frankly I hope not.. I enjoy watching both guys work.. and the offense is better when both are effective. I like Pollard in the role he's in and I like Zeke where he is.. You think Pollard would be a better option to start.. Fine.. you're entitled to your opinion. I disagree.. Until Pollard performs at this level in at least half his games it's not even really worth discussing.

LOL................How about the last 4 games where they got equal carries?

Or we could just look at overall ypc average, TD rate? What did Pollard do when he got the start in place of Zeke?

Zeke had a horrendous year last year. That 3.9 YPC is just unbeatable. :lmao::lmao2:

Once again you try to change the goal posts.

Its all unfolding before your eyes and you are scrambling. The writing is on the wall.

I have always maintained that its a RB by committee I am looking for with Pollard getting more of a 50/50 split. This "carry the load" RB stuff is nonsense. Its never necessary.

Now would I like a McCaffrey? Sure, but Zeke isnt anything close to that.


So I will ask you the question AGAIN and see if you can answer it properly:

With good Oline play opening up holes, which guy do you think is going to make the most of those holes? Pollard or Zeke?

AND

Which RB do you think is better suited to this new high flying spread offense?
 

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Tony Pollard appears to be growing stronger, faster and more capable with every passing game!
Soon, he'll be jumping over buildings in a single bound! Just can't wait to see more of him! :grin:

OTOH, Ezekiel is a consistent gainer of yardage, even when other teams tend to stack the LOS!

Let's face it, folks . . . we've got a pretty doggone good thing going, here! Let's be happy for that!
 
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Jerry has to back Zeke no matter. He drafted him top 5. He made him the highest paid rb in NFL history with a ridiculous contract. Its too big of a mistake for Jerry to admit. Its on par with Jerry making a public statement about his poor football judgement and how he is the primary reason the franchise has failed on the field since 1996. Not gonna happen.
 

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LOL................How about the last 4 games where they got equal carries?

Or we could just look at overall ypc average, TD rate? What did Pollard do when he got the start in place of Zeke?

Zeke had a horrendous year last year. That 3.9 YPC is just unbeatable. :lmao::lmao2:

Once again you try to change the goal posts.

Its all unfolding before your eyes and you are scrambling. The writing is on the wall.

I have always maintained that its a RB by committee I am looking for with Pollard getting more of a 50/50 split. This "carry the load" RB stuff is nonsense. Its never necessary.

Now would I like a McCaffrey? Sure, but Zeke isnt anything close to that.


So I will ask you the question AGAIN and see if you can answer it properly:

With good Oline play opening up holes, which guy do you think is going to make the most of those holes? Pollard or Zeke?

AND

Which RB do you think is better suited to this new high flying spread offense?


I'm not sure why I even bother to respond to you since you clearly don't read anything I say that doesn't suit your narrative. I have stated at least a hundred times here on this forum that this style of offense suits Pollard's style better. However to your first point? Are you kidding me? With a good o-line opening holes consistently Zeke would absolutely destroy. How do I know this? Because he has done exactly that up until last season. If the line was able to get Zeke to the second level untouched consistently he would again lead the league in rushing because DBs have a hard time tackling him. Some don't even try. What people who don't understand football don't get is that the line isn't going to open chasms for a back every running play.. Sometimes the back is going to need to move the pile, run a guy over, shake off a tackler in the backfield. Every play isn't going to be able to go outside.. You need to be able to run it through all the gaps as well as to the outside. If all you can do is one or the other you're not going to be successful. I'm not saying Pollard can't run between the tackles.. because he can.. He's just not as effective at it as Zeke and there are real questions as to whether he can hold up if asked to do it as much as Zeke is. Maybe he can.. We're probably not going to find out unless Zeke gets hurt. All I know is that you simply cannot build your running game around an inconsistent running back and to this point that is what Pollard is. Maybe that changes going forward but the swings in his production are too pronounced right now to count on.
 

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I'm not sure why I even bother to respond to you since you clearly don't read anything I say that doesn't suit your narrative. I have stated at least a hundred times here on this forum that this style of offense suits Pollard's style better. However to your first point? Are you kidding me? With a good o-line opening holes consistently Zeke would absolutely destroy. How do I know this? Because he has done exactly that up until last season. If the line was able to get Zeke to the second level untouched consistently he would again lead the league in rushing because DBs have a hard time tackling him. Some don't even try. What people who don't understand football don't get is that the line isn't going to open chasms for a back every running play.. Sometimes the back is going to need to move the pile, run a guy over, shake off a tackler in the backfield. Every play isn't going to be able to go outside.. You need to be able to run it through all the gaps as well as to the outside. If all you can do is one or the other you're not going to be successful. I'm not saying Pollard can't run between the tackles.. because he can.. He's just not as effective at it as Zeke and there are real questions as to whether he can hold up if asked to do it as much as Zeke is. Maybe he can.. We're probably not going to find out unless Zeke gets hurt. All I know is that you simply cannot build your running game around an inconsistent running back and to this point that is what Pollard is. Maybe that changes going forward but the swings in his production are too pronounced right now to count on.

Yes you have said Pollard style suits the offense better. I just wanted you to say it again. So now put the answer together with the right conclusion? Pollard needs a much bigger load in this offense.

And more that I have been telling you for years now that you routinely scoffed at. Zeke doesnt have the speed to consistently run outside. He is limited:

The difference is that when Zeke ran to the edge, he was routinely swarmed by defenders and snuffed out in the backfield. Pollard, on the other hand, continually made plays when bouncing the ball outside, bringing a greater dimension to the run game while allowing Dak Prescott to more than halve his number of pass attempts from Week 1.

Ezekiel Elliott might be a
$90M running back but if results are all the matter, and he’s enough of a team player to be game-planned as an added blocker against Tampa Bay in the opener, he should be willing to split carries somewhat evenly with Pollard so long as the former Memphis hybrid back is making an impact.
 
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