Twitter: A federal judge has denied La’el Collins restraining order

Joe Realist · Oct 12, 2021

do cowboys get cap relief from the suspension?

NotForLong · Oct 12, 2021

ninja said:
News to me if he did? What’s he going to say?

Dak: I need my RT back.
Judge: You are 4-0 without him.
Dak: Never mind

That s cold . . . but true

jnday · Oct 12, 2021

RicKospia said:
I am not in love with Collins as a player !

As a player, he has played as well as any OT in the league up until last season. He came into camp out of shape last season and everything has went downhill since then.

USArmyVet · Oct 12, 2021

Joe Realist said:
do cowboys get cap relief from the suspension?

The suspension is without pay so yes, cap relief in the form of 5-weeks. With Collins having restructured his deal before the season started, his 2021 cap hit is $6,369,444.When divided by 18 weeks you get a weekly average of $353,858 so his 5-game suspension is a 'savings' of $1,769,290......if math serves correctly.

DallasInDC · Oct 12, 2021

USArmyVet said:
With the way Steele has been playing, Collins due back (if I am correct) in Week 8 against the Vikings, and the NFL trade deadline set for Nov. 2nd (Tuesday after Week 8), could Dallas say enough is enough and try and move on from Collins ala J. Smith?

Cap Savings if traded/released starting in 2022 (salary cap hit V. dead money):

2022 $1.3M savings
2023 $15.25M
2024 $13.45M

Stephen Jones already said today that LC will be with the Cowboys for a long time. Don't hold your breath waiting for a trade. Plus, depth is important.

TwoCentPlain · Oct 12, 2021

Joe Realist said:
do cowboys get cap relief from the suspension?

Not much. I think it was about $1M or $2M. The Cowboys restructured Collins this year before the suspension. That hurt.

I heard he lost an $7M guarantee for injury next year.

USArmyVet · Oct 12, 2021

DallasInDC said:
Stephen Jones already said today that LC will be with the Cowboys for a long time. Don't hold your breath waiting for a trade. Plus, depth is important.

Take it with a grain of salt as JJ & SJ are not going to come out and say Collins is getting cut as soon as he comes back. Remember, in Nov. 2020 JJ called J. Smith a 'cornerstone' to the Dallas defense.....and we know how that ended up.

plymkr · Oct 12, 2021

texbumthelife said:
I’ll be happy to have Collins back as depth, but I’m not moving Steele from that RT spot. He’s been too good and too dependable.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think Steele shouldn't be replaced but here we are. He's balling out and let's not mess with a good thing.

Man things change in the NFL. A month ago I was posting about how stubborn and stupid our coaches are for not moving Martin to T. Now I'm posting about not moving Steele. This is as crazy as last year but everything has been positive. I'm loving it. Go Cowboys!!!!

DallasInDC · Oct 12, 2021

USArmyVet said:
Take it with a grain of salt as JJ & SJ are not going to come out and say Collins is getting cut as soon as he comes back. Remember, in Nov. 2020 JJ called J. Smith a 'cornerstone' to the Dallas defense.....and we know how that ended up.

Yes,that was before he refused to remove the injury clause, showed he wasn't able to push the sled, dove for a ball 10 yards away, got caught multiple times hitting the wrong hole, got beat to the ball carrier by LVE even though he was 5 yards closer, and on, and on, and on. Smith Gave the Jones multiple reasons since the time of that comment to release him.

In this instance Stephen wasn't answering a question about his longevity, but he chose to throw that out there anyway...so barring L'ael doing something stupid (which is likely), or not being as good as he was, I don't see the Jones trading him.

USArmyVet · Oct 12, 2021

DallasInDC said:
Yes,that was before he refused to remove the injury clause, showed he wasn't able to push the sled, dove for a ball 10 yards away, got caught multiple times hitting the wrong hole, got beat to the ball carrier by LVE even though he was 5 yards closer, and on, and on, and on. Smith Gave the Jones multiple reasons since the time of that comment to release him.

In this instance Stephen wasn't answering a question about his longevity, but he chose to throw that out there anyway...so barring L'ael doing something stupid (which is likely), or not being as good as he was, I don't see the Jones trading him.

Well, I agree about Smith as many could see he wasn't a cornerstone player.

Regarding Collins, he missed all of 2020 due to some kind of injury after reporting to camp badly out of shape. Now, he has a 5-game suspension due to missing drug tests and reportedly bribed a collector. Now I am not in the 'know' with JJ & SJ but I would say Collins is not doing himself any favors.

eromeopolk · Oct 12, 2021

ShortRound131 said:

A Fool and his money is soon parted.

DallasInDC · Oct 12, 2021

USArmyVet said:
Well, I agree about Smith as many could see he wasn't a cornerstone player.

Regarding Collins, he missed all of 2020 due to some kind of injury after reporting to camp badly out of shape. Now, he has a 5-game suspension due to missing drug tests and reportedly bribed a collector. Now I am not in the 'know' with JJ & SJ but I would say Collins is not doing himself any favors.

I am sure he is on thin ice, but I think for now he is safe.

GMO415 · Oct 12, 2021

Yawn. He'll be back in a week.

DoctorChicken · Oct 12, 2021

ninja said:
Jerry being vague:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/12/motion-to-halt-lael-collins-suspension-denied/

Terence Steele will remain at right tackle for the Cowboys this week and Jones discussed the possibility that he’ll remain there once Collins is back on 105.3 The Fan on Tuesday.

“Is he an argument I guess — I guess that’s okay to say he’s an argument, a case, whatever. And, boy, has he,” Jones said. “He’s just played outstanding. Boy, he has shown me he has a long-term future in this game and this game with the Cowboys. So, he’s played outstanding relatively speaking. Now, that doesn’t mean that La’el Collins is any less of a player. La’el Collins is a significant member of the team. And, so, this just gives us what you hope for: young player ascending and gives us depth and gives us, if you will, an alternative. All of that is there.”

I am in love with this new Jerry that has shown up recently that gives answers like these that just really please everyone and aren't controversial. What has happened to him?

USArmyVet · Oct 12, 2021

DallasInDC said:
I am sure he is on thin ice, but I think for now he is safe.

A 300+ pound lineman on thin ice.....I hope he can swim.

DallasInDC · Oct 12, 2021

USArmyVet said:
A 300+ pound lineman on thin ice.....I hope he can swim.

Praxit · Oct 12, 2021

The Natural said:
Didnt Dak testify on his behalf?

.he did. Read about it.

speedkilz88 · Oct 12, 2021

“The Court takes no comfort in enforcing an arbitration award that upholds a punishment that, arguably, is not permissible under the parties’ CBA. “But, just as the Court cannot embrace its own opinion as to the validity of Collins’ claims or the out-of-bounds nature of the NFL’s disciplinary decisions, the Court cannot disregard an arbitrator’s reasonable construction of the parties’ agreements.”

TwoCentPlain · Oct 12, 2021

DoctorChicken said:
I am in love with this new Jerry that has shown up recently that gives answers like these that just really please everyone and aren't controversial. What has happened to him?

Although, Jerry never answered the question. He just presented both sides of the coin. Leads me to believe McCarthy, Moore, and Philbin will make the call.

I think Jerry already knows the answer. He just isn't saying right now. A few drinks in him and I am sure the truth would come out.

speedkilz88 · Oct 12, 2021

WoodysGirl said:

Thank goodness the mediots don't make these decisions. Collins is a top RT in the league. Steele has been adequate.

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