Prediction: Gregory and Parsons will be our Starting DEs next year

Texas_Pete · Oct 14, 2021

zrinkill said:
Is this thread all about pushing a new nickname?
I have never heard Parsons called the lion.

Nah, he called himself that on Hard Knocks and I like the nickname.

zrinkill · Oct 14, 2021

Texas_Pete said:
Nah, he called himself that on Hard Knocks and I like the nickname.

Well there ya go ..... I did not watch that

The Quest for Six · Oct 14, 2021

I'd prefer Gregory and Lawrence at defensive end and Parsons play the role of a Clay Mathews linebacker lining up all over the defensive line causing headaches because you don't know when and where he's attacking from..

BAT · Oct 14, 2021

The Quest for Six said:
I'd prefer Gregory and Lawrence at defensive end and Parsons play the role of a Clay Mathews linebacker lining up all over the defensive line causing headaches because you don't know when and where he's attacking from..

That is his current role in this DQ defense.

Plays all over front 7.

Against the Pats who cant run for crap, hope he is used as pass rusher/blitzer 90% of his snaps.

Setackin · Oct 14, 2021

Lion?

Mr Cowboy · Oct 14, 2021

DLaw is a very good DE, but not a $20 million DE. Those high priced DEs are consistent double digit sack monsters. DLaw is not.

75boyz · Oct 14, 2021

Good post/discussion topic. I am not a big fan of Lawrence's pay in relation to his production so I like your pay cut proposal. I don't have a simple straight answer on your options of how to use Parsons, but strongly support Quinn continuing to utilize his special pass rush skillset.

As long as he is chasing QBs and not being wasted as an ordinary off ball linebacker, I'm okay with it.

Again, nice post.

jmo

conner01 · Oct 14, 2021

There is a higher chance Gregory won’t be here next year than Dlaw not being here

CowboyFrog · Oct 14, 2021

I dont know why we are burying Tank BEFORE he gets a chance to play with talent around him....How bout we see what happens when he comes back..

Macnalty · Oct 14, 2021

jazzcat22 said:
I will hold off any judgement or ideas until after DLaw returns and we see his play for the rest of the season.

I agree, first lets make sure this injury is recoverable, I hope it is not as serious as the other notable broken foot injuries we have had in the past, case can be made that Dez never fully recovered after his injured broken foot. Lion, had to wonder for a second who he was talking about, first I have heard that nickname.

CowboyRoy · Oct 14, 2021

Texas_Pete said:
Does Stephen Jones hold grudges? Remember when Tank was strategic when scheduling his needed shoulder surgery until he got a new deal? I bet you Zoners the Joneses remember Tank's tactics very well.

Tank is still a really good player. Right now he's the 2nd best DE on the roster behind Randy in my opinion and the Lion is thisclose to being as effective as Tank.

The Lion should play more DE snaps than linebacker. With a full offseason of DE focus, strength/conditioning, and more tutelage from DeMarcus Ware, I can see Lion transitioning from MLB to full-time DE opposite Randy as early as next year.

Given what happened with Jaylon Smith, I bet Stephen is gonna approach Tank for a paycut. He will either accept it or be released. Especially if his broken foot doesn't fully heal and allow him to be the Tank that received a $105M contract.

I may be off here, but I felt the idea is worth discussing. In an ideal world, we keep Tank and continue to have Lion used all over the place as the ultimate defensive chess piece. But Stephen is shrewd with that cap which could make Tank a cap casualty. Everyone saw how good the Lion looked when asked to rush the passer when Randy and Tank were out.

Thoughts?

Yep, I have a question...........who the hell is the lion?

ConstantReboot · Oct 14, 2021

Jarntt said:
He is not taking a pay cut. We are a much better team with Tank than without. The cap numbers can always show to cut a guy but you don't cut good players unless you have too. I don't get how so many on here don't see that Tank is still a good player. You can't only focus on sacks as he is a top DE against the run. Also, note that in the Charger game where Micah played entirely at DE he only played 55% of the snaps. So if you cut Tank you are also replacing him with an Armstrong/Anae type guy half the snaps. But, when your cap number is that high you need to be really, really good.

Cutting him after this year unless something changes drastically wouldn't be smart IMO. After 2022 could be a different discussion.
2022 cap hit $27M vs dead cap if cut $19M - not worth a $27M cap hit, but the difference isn't worth losing a good player (post 6/1 dead money split (22 -$8M; 23 -$11M). Save $19M 2022 but still $11M in dead money in 2023.
2023 cap hit $29M vs dead cap if cut $11M. Not worth a $29M cap hit. Could cut post 6/1 and split dead money $8M in 2023 (save $21M) and $3M in 2024. Now we are talking about a possible scenario.

He is a good player getting paid elite money. Dak Prescott was blasted for getting the amount that he is getting. Yet he is playing at an elite level.

What has Tank done lately? Where is he? He doesn't even put up stats like an elite player.

If we cut him or not, he is still not worth the contract that he's got. Maybe we can ask him to take a pay cut, so that we can afford Gregory, Kazee, and Kearse. But if he doesn't, it goes to show how bad his contract really is. At least Jaylon was on the field. Where is Dlaw now?

nobody · Oct 14, 2021

CowboyFrog said:
I dont know why we are burying Tank BEFORE he gets a chance to play with talent around him....How bout we see what happens when he comes back..

Because some people were done with him when he pulled the tactics he did with the surgery.

Tussinman · Oct 14, 2021

DeathMonkey said:
Because some people were done with him when he pulled the tactics he did with the surgery.

True. You then add in 2 different surgeries this season, him being 4 years removed from his prime, and a near 20 million dollar cap savings if he's a post June cut (mind you the Cowboys are over next years projected cap currently with 6 starters not even under contract) and it's a no brainer choice

ConstantReboot said:
afford Gregory, Kazee, and Kearse

This is the big sticking point. If D-law is a post June cut it saves almost 20 million dollars, thats enough money to bring all 3 of these players back.

A high dollar DE whose 4 years removed from his prime or 3 starters ? (I'm pretty certain most would choose the latter)

Texas_Pete · Oct 14, 2021

If Stephen Jones can cut hall of famer DeMarcus Ware, Tank not safe. They let Dez go too.

Texas_Pete · Oct 14, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
Yep, I have a question...........who the hell is the lion?

Micah Parsons said on Hard Knocks (referring to himself) that the Lion is always hungry.

visionary · Oct 14, 2021

Texas_Pete said:
Does Stephen Jones hold grudges? Remember when Tank was strategic when scheduling his needed shoulder surgery until he got a new deal? I bet you Zoners the Joneses remember Tank's tactics very well.

Tank is still a really good player. Right now he's the 2nd best DE on the roster behind Randy in my opinion and the Lion is thisclose to being as effective as Tank.

The Lion should play more DE snaps than linebacker. With a full offseason of DE focus, strength/conditioning, and more tutelage from DeMarcus Ware, I can see Lion transitioning from MLB to full-time DE opposite Randy as early as next year.

Given what happened with Jaylon Smith, I bet Stephen is gonna approach Tank for a paycut. He will either accept it or be released. Especially if his broken foot doesn't fully heal and allow him to be the Tank that received a $105M contract.

I may be off here, but I felt the idea is worth discussing. In an ideal world, we keep Tank and continue to have Lion used all over the place as the ultimate defensive chess piece. But Stephen is shrewd with that cap which could make Tank a cap casualty. Everyone saw how good the Lion looked when asked to rush the passer when Randy and Tank were out.

Thoughts?

PREDICTION: you are completely wrong

blueblood70 · Oct 14, 2021

Texas_Pete said:
Does Stephen Jones hold grudges? Remember when Tank was strategic when scheduling his needed shoulder surgery until he got a new deal? I bet you Zoners the Joneses remember Tank's tactics very well.

Tank is still a really good player. Right now he's the 2nd best DE on the roster behind Randy in my opinion and the Lion is thisclose to being as effective as Tank.

The Lion should play more DE snaps than linebacker. With a full offseason of DE focus, strength/conditioning, and more tutelage from DeMarcus Ware, I can see Lion transitioning from MLB to full-time DE opposite Randy as early as next year.

Given what happened with Jaylon Smith, I bet Stephen is gonna approach Tank for a paycut. He will either accept it or be released. Especially if his broken foot doesn't fully heal and allow him to be the Tank that received a $105M contract.

I may be off here, but I felt the idea is worth discussing. In an ideal world, we keep Tank and continue to have Lion used all over the place as the ultimate defensive chess piece. But Stephen is shrewd with that cap which could make Tank a cap casualty. Everyone saw how good the Lion looked when asked to rush the passer when Randy and Tank were out.

Thoughts?

the lion is that your name for Parsons? doubt that he even becomes the fulltime DE..

blueblood70 · Oct 14, 2021

zrinkill said:
Is this thread all about pushing a new nickname?
I have never heard Parsons called the lion.

I dont like it and thats not what ill be calling MP...

Mannix · Oct 14, 2021

I REFUSE to use any Penn State references unless they are shone in the most negative light possible.

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