Bill blew it by punting in overtime

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Bill believed in his defense. His gamble backfired. Welcome to 2-4 Bill.
The previous 4 Dallas drives went for 55, 50, 66 and 80 yards. From the 20-yard line, 50 yards moves you into fairly comfortable FG range. Granted that you'd like the punt to pin Dallas a little deeper, but still, why just give the ball up without a fight to a team that's been doing that to you, when you can try a very makeable 4th-and-3 conversion instead?
 

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McCarthy should have punted during our Cowboys 1st series where it was 4th & 1 inside our own 35. It gifted the Patriots an easy 7 points. Maybe McCarthy's terrible "analytics" game management scared Belichick into punting?
Exactly. MM called a very questionably dumb game. Thank God we still won though
 

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The Patriots averaged 10.9 yards per pass attempt today (this stat excludes sacks)
The Patriots averaged 4.4 yards per rush attempt

So what did Belichick do in overtime needing just 3 yards with the Pats at their own 46?

He did what other traditional dinosaur coaches do: punted. Surrendered the ball for 34 yards of field, which wasn't likely to matter to the Cowboys offense, which gobbled up 567 yards on the day.

The sport is getting smarter. People like Bill...are not.

Are you serious? You do not go for it there, you punt.
 

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With a young QB and a losing record, yeah you go for it right there. As soon as they punted I said...well that's it.
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Are you serious? You do not go for it there, you punt.

Why? Walk through it logically...make your case. The smart NFL coaches ARE now going for it in exactly those kinds of situations.
 

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The Patriots averaged 10.9 yards per pass attempt today (this stat excludes sacks)
The Patriots averaged 4.4 yards per rush attempt

So what did Belichick do in overtime needing just 3 yards with the Pats at their own 46?

He did what other traditional dinosaur coaches do: punted. Surrendered the ball for 34 yards of field, which wasn't likely to matter to the Cowboys offense, which gobbled up 567 yards on the day.

The sport is getting smarter. People like Bill...are not.
His 6 Super bowl rings tell different story.
 

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Especially with a limited QB who isn't a real down field threat. That 75 yard pass is a major outlier with Jones
I don't get it. If that's the case, you'd rather punt, hope to hold Dallas when all we need is a FG (pretty dubious), and then get the ball back with worse field position than you have right now
(probably) and hope for this "limited" QB to string together enough plays for a FG?

The odds of converting one single 3-yard play sure seem better than managing all that.
 

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I'm still waiting for one "gotta-punt-it-there" poster to give a single argument, any logic or reasoning. "You just can't," "Are you serious", "Gotta play the game the right way.".....those aren't logical arguments, gents.

Will the morning crew step in and deliver something worth thinking about? (My hunch is: no. The thread will then die from a lack of worthy opposition.)
 

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The Patriots averaged 10.9 yards per pass attempt today (this stat excludes sacks)
The Patriots averaged 4.4 yards per rush attempt

So what did Belichick do in overtime needing just 3 yards with the Pats at their own 46?

He did what other traditional dinosaur coaches do: punted. Surrendered the ball for 34 yards of field, which wasn't likely to matter to the Cowboys offense, which gobbled up 567 yards on the day.

The sport is getting smarter. People like Bill...are not.
BB made the right decision. You didn’t post the stat for 4th and 3 conversion rates and you also didn’t post the stat about chances the offense scores from 40 yards out vs 80 yards out.
 

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I'm still waiting for one "gotta-punt-it-there" poster to give a single argument, any logic or reasoning. "You just can't," "Are you serious", "Gotta play the game the right way.".....those aren't logical arguments, gents.

Will the morning crew step in and deliver something worth thinking about? (My hunch is: no. The thread will then die from a lack of worthy opposition.)
Well all the rhetorical reasons you claim the"gotta punt" will use are about as logical as the premise the op gives for saying bill shouldn't have punted because that is solely based on the probability of him making it and the 20/20 vision we now have. At least the punt it crowd has years of stats and risk calculations to base there opinion on.
As for me, I wish he would of went for it then it would of made it easier for us to get in fg range after stopping them. But either way we won, so yeah this thread is as good as closed.
 

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I agree. If you’re playing against a powerhouse offense, you have to play to win and take risks that you typically wouldn’t.


Belichick didn’t do that, and it cost them.



They get a bye week as well next week . They play the Jets.
 

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The Patriots averaged 10.9 yards per pass attempt today (this stat excludes sacks)
The Patriots averaged 4.4 yards per rush attempt

So what did Belichick do in overtime needing just 3 yards with the Pats at their own 46?

He did what other traditional dinosaur coaches do: punted. Surrendered the ball for 34 yards of field, which wasn't likely to matter to the Cowboys offense, which gobbled up 567 yards on the day.

The sport is getting smarter. People like Bill...are not.

This makes no sense. Every coach in the league would punt on 4 & 3 in the same spot. The smart play is to pin Dallas back in its own territory. It didn't work out for this Bill this time, but he was also playing with a much less talented team. The patriots are rebuilding with a rookie QB.
 

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The Patriots averaged 10.9 yards per pass attempt today (this stat excludes sacks)
The Patriots averaged 4.4 yards per rush attempt

So what did Belichick do in overtime needing just 3 yards with the Pats at their own 46?

He did what other traditional dinosaur coaches do: punted. Surrendered the ball for 34 yards of field, which wasn't likely to matter to the Cowboys offense, which gobbled up 567 yards on the day.

The sport is getting smarter. People like Bill...are not.
oh my goodness, another from the always go for it on 4th brigade. You guys are funny
If the Cowboys had punted in the first quarter instead of handing NE the ball on the 35 then the game would have probably a comfortable win for Dallas, instead we were playing behind or barely ahead, the whole game.
I blame the video games :)
 
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