McCarthy over Moore in 2022

Aven8 said:

Preach. This team has done a 180 of what they were. Night and day. His blue collar background has made this team tough. When is the last Cowboys team we’ve seen overcome mistakes? I can’t remember either.

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+1

ChronicCowboy said:

Fat Mike is a has-been. We’re winning in spite of him and his pathetic game management.

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bull.

Hawkeye0202 said:

Oh, I agree to an extent......my point was if we should lose Moore, I don't the impact will be as negative as some fans are implying. Not sure heard but Dak was just saying last week how he can pretty much predict the plays Kellen is going to send in during the game. In fact, if we lose Kellen it would not surprise me one bit that his replacement is already on the team.

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Thanks for the clarification. You are right about Dak. He is not a robot.

Risen Star said:

I understand everyone's excited about the offense and the hot shot coordinator but I just can't get on board with the way too popular idea of making Kellen Moore the head coach next year.

I think that's a terrible idea. This team is a legit contender. There's no reason why they won't be a contender next year. The last thing they need is a rookie head coach in training leading them when they can win titles.

Moore may turn out to be a great head coach some day. I have no idea. Neither does anyone else including the team that eventually gives him that position but he's not the right guy for this team right now.

He may not excite you but you know what you have in McCarthy. An experienced head coach who knows how to lead a team deep into the playoffs. This is the right fit for a team ready to win now.

That would mean we probably lose Moore in the offseason and that's fine. Find another. He didn't reinvent the wheel here.

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Glad you are taking this stance.

Especially because you've been wrong so many times just THIS season alone.

More certain now that the choice between KM and MM for HC is Kellen.

Dallas Cowboys fans wanna fire the head coach who currently has his team 5-1. Let that sink in.........lol

Choosing between McCarthy and Moore will arguably be one of the most important decisions Jerry makes since firing Jimmy.

Moore has made an huge difference as our OC. If he has the same level of success as HC then the decision would be easy, but we don’t know how he will do.

It a risk either way. We could lose a potentially great HC.

Chocolate Lab said:

Always thought it was silly to believe another good oc wouldn't have similar success with all the talent this offense has.

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That’s possible but it needs to be a young creative guy
That’s what I like about Moore is the creative scheme and he’s really good play caller

BobbyFlame469 said:

Agreed.


The way Moore uses misdirection alone is more important than Mike Mccarthy’s entire job. I watch a lot of football and Dallas has the best offense in the league when firing on all cylinders.


They can rush better than the ravens and their quarterback doesn’t even really run anymore

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we are NOT a better rushing teams then the Ravens not even the browns its close but no way man..stop overvaluing everything,, the ravens are tough top team and can rush from anywhere on the field with a myriad of players, much harder to stop then ours..

dont think for moment MM cant call the same plays as the HC/OC should KM want out so bad he leaves..MM has done the play calling all his life as a HC/OC , called plays that's been to multiple NFCCGs and a SB WIN..

KM has not even been in a playoff game as play caller yet..had his shot in 19 and did not do well..

whats changed ?

MM thats what,,this is a blended playbook the GPs are a collaboration. this isnt a one man show on offense and the players are the property of the DCs not Moore.they stay.

Let moore try and be hc of rebuilding team while MM gets to just stay the course with our weapons..

its takes great players first and then coaches who utilize the weapons , he did this in GB with Rogers and now daks nearing that level and more weapons..MM never had 2 great Rbs , extra WRs and TEs

MM would be just fine doing this ...no doubt..rather keep it the same for 2022 but hey im not worried about losing KM if its a choice..hed be better off staying here one more season and maybe 2023 MM leaves anyway..

Streetwise said:

If we switch McCarthy with JG this season, we're not 5-1. Probably not with Moore either. This team is very close, don't screw it up.

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Everyone likes the new shinny toy...they like the backup QB, backup WRs etc...in this case everyone is heads over heals for Kellen Moore....You have to ask yourself is Moore ready to be HC....he knows better than anyone....but what type of coaching staff can Moore put together....

Moore is blessed with an arsenal of offensive weapons to create plays for....the question I got... is KM making DAK look good or is it DAK making KM look good....probably a combination of the two...but the chances of Moore duplicating what he has in Dallas is very low.... For every one Shawn McVay there is an Adam Gase, Josh McDaniels, Joe Judge, Dick Juron, Jim Schwartz, Matt Patricia, Scott Linehan or Wade Phillips out there who were good coordinators/coaches but lousy Head Coach....

Moore may get his shot...and I wish him success but I trust in DAK more than KM...

Risen Star said:

I understand everyone's excited about the offense and the hot shot coordinator but I just can't get on board with the way too popular idea of making Kellen Moore the head coach next year.

I think that's a terrible idea. This team is a legit contender. There's no reason why they won't be a contender next year. The last thing they need is a rookie head coach in training leading them when they can win titles.

Moore may turn out to be a great head coach some day. I have no idea. Neither does anyone else including the team that eventually gives him that position but he's not the right guy for this team right now.

He may not excite you but you know what you have in McCarthy. An experienced head coach who knows how to lead a team deep into the playoffs. This is the right fit for a team ready to win now.

That would mean we probably lose Moore in the offseason and that's fine. Find another. He didn't reinvent the wheel here.

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The fact you say this is ultimate proof that they need to immediately fire MM and make Moore the HC. Win-win for all true Cowboys fans...

Fuzzee said:

Everyone likes the new shinny toy...they like the backup QB, backup WRs etc...in this case everyone is heads over heals for Kellen Moore....You have to ask yourself is Moore ready to be HC....he knows better than anyone....but what type of coaching staff can Moore put together....

Moore is blessed with an arsenal of offensive weapons to create plays for....the question I got... is KM making DAK look good or is it DAK making KM look good....probably a combination of the two...but the chances of Moore duplicating what he has in Dallas is very low.... For every one Shawn McVay there is an Adam Gase, Josh McDaniels, Joe Judge, Dick Juron, Jim Schwartz, Matt Patricia, Scott Linehan or Wade Phillips out there who were good coordinators/coaches but lousy Head Coach....

Moore may get his shot...and I wish him success but I trust in DAK more than KM...

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Dak completely trusts Kellen.

And so does EVERY player on offense.

They mention him every week after a win.

Risen Star said:

I understand everyone's excited about the offense and the hot shot coordinator but I just can't get on board with the way too popular idea of making Kellen Moore the head coach next year.

I think that's a terrible idea. This team is a legit contender. There's no reason why they won't be a contender next year. The last thing they need is a rookie head coach in training leading them when they can win titles.

Moore may turn out to be a great head coach some day. I have no idea. Neither does anyone else including the team that eventually gives him that position but he's not the right guy for this team right now.

He may not excite you but you know what you have in McCarthy. An experienced head coach who knows how to lead a team deep into the playoffs. This is the right fit for a team ready to win now.

That would mean we probably lose Moore in the offseason and that's fine. Find another. He didn't reinvent the wheel here.

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They definitely need to consider someone outside of the organization with a pedigree.... like Belicheck's son here,,, lol, this guy makes Grudin look stoic and distinguished.

JJHLH1 said:

Choosing between McCarthy and Moore will arguably be one of the most important decisions Jerry makes since firing Jimmy.

Moore has made an huge difference as our OC. If he has the same level of success as HC then the decision would be easy, but we don’t know how he will do.

It a risk either way. We could lose a potentially great HC.

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He was so great, his phone didn't ring for a year after he was fired from the Pack.

The reason we almost lost yesterday was fat Mike's in game decisions, but I guess some here need to see him blow some calls in a playoff atmosphere.

BAT said:

Dak completely trusts Kellen.

And so does EVERY player on offense.

They mention him every week after a win.

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Trust is not the issue.....the question is does DAK make Kellen Moore look good ....is it Kellen Moore make DAK look good.......I think KM and DAK are more like a BB and Brady, Johnsons and Aikman, a highly successful combination that cant be duplicated elsewhere.....

But if Moore gets a HC job..will he succeed without DAK and how will DAK fair without KM? IMO Kellen Moore will be gone next year and look for Ben McAdoo as the OC in waiting....

Risen Star said:

I understand everyone's excited about the offense and the hot shot coordinator but I just can't get on board with the way too popular idea of making Kellen Moore the head coach next year.

I think that's a terrible idea. This team is a legit contender. There's no reason why they won't be a contender next year. The last thing they need is a rookie head coach in training leading them when they can win titles.

Moore may turn out to be a great head coach some day. I have no idea. Neither does anyone else including the team that eventually gives him that position but he's not the right guy for this team right now.

He may not excite you but you know what you have in McCarthy. An experienced head coach who knows how to lead a team deep into the playoffs. This is the right fit for a team ready to win now.

That would mean we probably lose Moore in the offseason and that's fine. Find another. He didn't reinvent the wheel here.

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I'm not on board at all, MM's decision making has shown up every game and not in a good way. I know nobodies perfect, but MM has made some serious mistakes that luckily for the Boys they've been able to over come them. I believe Moore is the real deal, he's played in this league and understands the game and with the way he's calling games he's got the respect of the whole club. I don't think MM can say that...................

Risen Star said:

I understand everyone's excited about the offense and the hot shot coordinator but I just can't get on board with the way too popular idea of making Kellen Moore the head coach next year.

I think that's a terrible idea. This team is a legit contender. There's no reason why they won't be a contender next year. The last thing they need is a rookie head coach in training leading them when they can win titles.

Moore may turn out to be a great head coach some day. I have no idea. Neither does anyone else including the team that eventually gives him that position but he's not the right guy for this team right now.

He may not excite you but you know what you have in McCarthy. An experienced head coach who knows how to lead a team deep into the playoffs. This is the right fit for a team ready to win now.

That would mean we probably lose Moore in the offseason and that's fine. Find another. He didn't reinvent the wheel here.

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I do tend to agree. Starting to think Kellen may make a good HC somewhere, but him being an elite coordinator doesn’t make him an elite HC. It’s all about replacing OC if we have to with the right guy

This is true you keep it together, I think we can keep Moore too. Jerry will pay him

unionjack8 said:

This. Ask Green Bay fans how he held them back

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A Super Bowl win and 4 NFC title game appearances?



please oh please Big Mike. Hold the cowboys back the same way you did Green Bay.

shabazz said:

That’s what I thought the thread title implied.......Mikes a sumo but Kellen is wiry and spry

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It’s the classic speed vs strength matchup.

DakPresgoat said:

A Super Bowl win and 4 NFC title game appearances?



please oh please Big Mike. Hold the cowboys back the same way you did Green Bay.

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With Rodgers at qb they should have won at least another. Green Bay fans detest him.