News: Patriots Fans acknowledge Refs help

ConstantReboot · Oct 18, 2021

MarcusRock said:
I have very clear video. Yes it is. Lol.

I don't think that is Dak's knee.

Flamma · Oct 18, 2021

Everyone gets ref help every once in awhile, but this is the Cowboys problem right now.......

"They had 82 plays to our 50, 200 plus more yards. Game was only close because Cowboys shooting themselves in the foot."

- oldpatsfan23

This has been a problem since week 3. I know there's a lot of time in this season to get this under control, but it has become a pattern. Outplaying teams early on but keeping them in the game through either lack of execution, bad mistakes, and or questionable coaching decisions. Either way, we're leaving a ton of points on the field in the first half and having to make up for that in the second half.

Doomsday · Oct 18, 2021

Half of his body was over the goalline unless he was carrying the ball between his legs there is no way it didn't cross the goalline.

MarcusRock · Oct 18, 2021

CowboyStar88 said:
Still trying to figure out how one can even tell that’s Dak’s knee.

Video, then slow mo the video, then pause the video, and screen capture.

MarcusRock · Oct 18, 2021

charron said:
Just like a fumble recovery you do not know who has it till you peel everyone off and the last guy with the ball claims victory. They couldn't see where the ball was when his knee touched either yet they called it by the knee, imho that's wrong. I think here they should err on the side of the TD since when uncovered his entire upper half had crossed and if it was Mack Jones just like that for the win I wouldn't be upset.

Fumble recovery is a different thing but even there they have clear procedures. First thing on a fumble is to determine if it was really a fumble (was the runner's knee down beforehand, etc.). Then you are looking for clear recovery. If you don't have that then you have to go with what happens when you peel people off. On a goal line situation you're only looking to see if the ball crossed, again before a knee is down. I don't know or at least haven't heard that if they don't see it cross and don't see a knee down, they just come in after to see where the guy is and call a TD then. Maybe that happens when they are sure a knee didn't touch or if they actually have sight of the ball and maybe lose it with bodies and can assume but I'd want to know what their progression of procedures are. It's easy for fumbles. Different story here.

MarcusRock · Oct 18, 2021

ConstantReboot said:
I don't think that is Dak's knee.

Yeah, it is. Pulled it off my own video.

nalam · Oct 18, 2021

Maxmadden said:
If that really is his knee then it is 6 inches from the plane of the goal line. Unless he is carrying the ball between his legs that is a TD.

This ,he cant get his whole body across the line without the ball in his hands .

charron · Oct 18, 2021

MarcusRock said:
Fumble recovery is a different thing but even there they have clear procedures. First thing on a fumble is to determine if it was really a fumble (was the runner's knee down beforehand, etc.). Then you are looking for clear recovery. If you don't have that then you have to go with what happens when you peel people off. On a goal line situation you're only looking to see if the ball crossed, again before a knee is down. I don't know or at least haven't heard that if they don't see it cross and don't see a knee down, they just come in after to see where the guy is and call a TD then. Maybe that happens when they are sure a knee didn't touch or if they actually have sight of the ball and maybe lose it with bodies and can assume but I'd want to know what their progression of procedures are. It's easy for fumbles. Different story here.

Their procedure is how they decide to make it up. Unless Dak was holding the ball straight above the knee it should have at least been closer to if not on the line at the time it touched. They placed it where the knee was not where the ball was. maybe that is how they are taught if they can not see the ball? I still disagree with it regardless. Wonder if they'll actually come out and say if it was correct call or not.

JBond · Oct 18, 2021

nalam said:
Moderator Edit: https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/pla...cks-to-see-the-cowboys-be-so-good-this-season

From Trolling the Nation of bloggintheboys !

1:30) D.Prescott up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. The Replay Official reviewed the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was REVERSED.
Patriots Uhhh....that wasn't a TD? He was under the pile laying over the line...lol
ChestnutTrill | 17:48EDT
Patriots I'm shocked they gave us that spot.
Tony121 | 17:48EDT
Same.
Makeithappen19 | 17:48EDT
Not complaining, but yes.
PatrioticChief | 17:48EDT
That was a TD.
BWLS | 17:48EDT

Go figure !
No wonder Cheatriots name .

Just read the whole thing and made me smile after a very long Monday.

Cydios · Oct 18, 2021

I was gonna start a new thread about this, but I'll mingle it with this one.. Anyone think the refs were calling the plays dead too quickly? There was a play where Schultz caught the ball, was spun at the hip for a tackle.. From there the refs blew the whistle. I just watched this play 5 times. His knees never touched the ground! He had clear skies in front of him. I'm not saying that was 7 points, but that was going to be big yards.

Here's the video I found.

America's Cowboy · Oct 18, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
Not only that but a penalty took a TD off the board for them.

Most of our fans are just oblivious homers, lol.

Dumb.

The reason the Patriots had a TD brought back WAS BECAUSE THEIR OWN PLAYER COMMITTED A HOLDING PENALTY.

Plankton · Oct 18, 2021

DakPresgoat said:
The refs suck. There’s horrible calls all
Across the league every single week.

it disgusts me how much the refs impact the game nowadays.

ConstantReboot · Oct 18, 2021

MarcusRock said:
Yeah, it is. Pulled it off my own video.

And where is the ball? He could have been pushed back after the play was over.

ConstantReboot · Oct 18, 2021

Cydios said:
I was gonna start a new thread about this, but I'll mingle it with this one.. Anyone think the refs were calling the plays dead too quickly? There was a play where Schultz caught the ball, was spun at the hip for a tackle.. From there the refs blew the whistle. I just watched this play 5 times. His knees never touched the ground! He had clear skies in front of him. I'm not saying that was 7 points, but that was going to be big yards.

Here's the video I found.

Yes I saw that. Another blown call by the refs. But in all honesty refs to make mistakes. But on the flip side why aren't these refs full timers? Why aren't there closer scrutiny on their calls? Why did that whistle blow and when they know they didn't even see Schultz touch the ground?

I just think there should be more accountability to these refs and non-calls or blown calls should be accounted for.

MountaineerCowboy · Oct 18, 2021

You check any Pats message board or their Reddit page right now and they are on there complaining about the refs and the calls that didn't go in their favor.

Whirlwin · Oct 18, 2021

MarcusRock said:
It was harder to spot than people think. If you're an official with this view and see Dak's knee down here, how do you spot this?

Yes but there was a better view right over the top. Prescott’s entire upper body was on the line. The ball would’ve been on the line. Other than that it would’ve been out of his hand

Plankton · Oct 18, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
You check any NFL team's message board or their Reddit page right now and they are on there complaining about the refs and the calls that didn't go in their favor.

FIFY

MarcusRock · Oct 18, 2021

ConstantReboot said:
And where is the ball? He could have been pushed back after the play was over.

Whirlwin said:
Yes but there was a better view right over the top. Prescott’s entire upper body was on the line. The ball would’ve been on the line. Other than that it would’ve been out of his hand

This is my point by posting this still shot. You don't see the ball here or in any of the video shots. So if you're a ref and you don't see confirmation of the ball, what do you do? This is why I ask what their marching orders are and if they're told to definitely see the ball and then call the TD or do they get to assume like everyone else is?

Whirlwin · Oct 18, 2021

MarcusRock said:
This is my point by posting this still shot. You don't see the ball here or in any of the video shots. So if you're a ref and you don't see confirmation of the ball, what do you do? This is why I ask what their marching orders are and if they're told to definitely see the ball and then call the TD or do they get to assume like everyone else is?

you have to love it right . Lol. I think they should be micro chips inside the football. An electric magnet facing down onto the field. It’ll tell you right where the ball is. lmao . Too funny

Maxmadden · Oct 18, 2021

It is spilled milk. Just glad it isn't a Dez thing where it could have actually cost us game. It didn't and the NFL got the game they wanted.

I mean even the Pats fans were like ***.

It is 3 capital letters.

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