Moore becoming HC would be like Garrett in 2010

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Garrett doesn't have the mentality to be a head coach. He wants to be everyone's buddy and there was a no accountability culture that was built by him and is somewhat still in place a little bit today. Although we have seen that shift with the release of Jaylon Smith.

That's whys somebody like Jason Witten was allowed to play until a new coaching staff took over. I mean Witten literally decided to retire, take a year off, come back, and immediate take 90% of the snaps again. All because he was Garrett's buddy.

I don't know what kind of mentality Moore has when it comes to stuff like that. I don't know if he's a buddy buddy type of coach or if he's more of an accountability type. I can't get a read on him. He just seems like a quiet dude.
 

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He’s a green coach which would put Jerry back in the “ mentor” position. The owner would screw it up royally! I don’t doubt that for a second.
 

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In 2007-2010, Garrett was one of the hottest OCs in football and many Boys fans wanted him to replace Wade. He did, and.......well, you know.

Moore may not be the same as the Clapper but his OC skills by no means translate to being a good HC either.

I totally agree. The Dallas offense is absolutely stacked. What would people expect Moore to do with the talent he has? I don’t see Moore as a leader of men. At all actually.
 

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Garrett doesn't have the mentality to be a head coach. He wants to be everyone's buddy and there was a no accountability culture that was built by him and is somewhat still in place a little bit today. Although we have seen that shift with the release of Jaylon Smith.

That's whys somebody like Jason Witten was allowed to play until a new coaching staff took over. I mean Witten literally decided to retire, take a year off, come back, and immediate take 90% of the snaps again. All because he was Garrett's buddy.

I don't know what kind of mentality Moore has when it comes to stuff like that. I don't know if he's a buddy buddy type of coach or if he's more of an accountability type. I can't get a read on him. He just seems like a quiet dude.

I think Moore has shown signs that he is willing to hold people accountable. Giving Pollard a lot of reps against SD has seemingly lit a fire under Zeke. He's running now like he did his first 2 years. Thats good coaching.
 
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This eventual takeover has been viewed as a lot of things. The more success the offense has the more notoriety this subject will continue to have. In the recent past Moore's assuming the HC role has been compared to:
The I've got my own Sean McVay plan,
The don't let Sean Peyton outta the building again plan,
The Jason Garrett Part II plan

But ultimately and my favorite,
The Jerry Jones Redemption Plan, to include finally proving I'm a true football guy cuz I picked him. But yeah, kind of a sequel to the original Jason Garrett Plan.

I think it's gonna happen as I did from the day he was named OC. Right now Im just a little unsure of all the details because the situation is currently fluid and continuing to play itself out.

jmo
 

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You know how we delight, as fans, every time there's been a story in the last year or two about how fresh and innovate Kellen is as an offensive coach, because we know Jason Garrett's offenses never would have done whatever good thing Kellen's offense just did?

Go ask a Packers fan about the flood of those exact stories out of Green Bay ever since they shoved McCarthy out a trap door.

He was their Garrett. He was old and stale and the game had passed him by.

Losing Kellen's offense and going to a McCarthy offense is a deal-breaker to me. It's curious to me that you'd simultaneously bash Garrett while also advocating for us to double-down on a similarly stale coach.



I also remember eagles fans saying all the same stuff and same complaints about Andy Reid.

I honestly don’t care what the average fan in Green Bay felt about McCarthy. Sometimes people need a change in scenery.
 

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Or he could be Sean McVay.

Or Sean Peyton.

Or Kliff Kingsbury.

Or Matt Rhule.

This is a completely different person and situation from Garrett or anyone else.

Stop fearmongering and trying to gaslight people.

You know nothing.

Is this a bad time to point out that only one guy on this list has won anything and he did it 12 years ago with a Hall of Fame QB in his prime and never repeated that success? The hot young OC model is far less successful than people keep making it out to be.
 

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So much nonsense talk. Dallas finally has the coaching staff that's been in need for a quarter of a century. Each one of those coaches is doing a pretty darn good job at their position (s). If not, this franchise wouldn't be 5-1.
 

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I think the team would respond well to Moore becoming HC. It wasn't that long ago he was a teammate. He's a young dude that can relate to the players. Outside of the fact that I like that he's pretty aggressive, McCarthy seems to have at least one situational blunder in each game this year. If we don't go to the Super Bowl, and we are in danger of losing Kellen to a HC position, I can definitely see Jerry pulling the trigger and keeping a homegrown "Jerry's Kid" over MM.
 
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In 2007-2010, Garrett was one of the hottest OCs in football and many Boys fans wanted him to replace Wade. He did, and.......well, you know.

Moore may not be the same as the Clapper but his OC skills by no means translate to being a good HC either.
Very few fans were excited about Garrett as HC. They were just happy that Wade was fired.

Moore is Sean Payton, not Garrett.

The Cowboys deeply regret letting Sean Payton leave.

They do whatever if required to retain Moore.

They're paying Dak 40M per and they see Moore as a key to Dak's success.

Jerry has limited respect for what he calls "walk-around" Head Coaches.
- i.e. Head Coaches that are not the offensive or defensive coordinator.
- They're running Moore's offense, not McCarthy's.
- Jerry would say that Belichick is the D-Coordinator and not in the "walk-around HC" category.
 
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Losing Kellen's offense and going to a McCarthy offense is a deal-breaker to me. It's curious to me that you'd simultaneously bash Garrett while also advocating for us to double-down on a similarly stale coach.
If I believed MM would take over the offense, I would be scared too.

But I seriously doubt that happens. If KM leaves (very slim chance IMO) I think MM brings in someone to run the offense. Hopefully that person is much more a Quinn hire than Nolan hire, but I think the last thing MM wants to do is take on more responsibility than what he has now.

Call it a hunch.
 

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Jerry has limited respect for what he calls "walk-around" Head Coaches.
Based off of what Jerry has done to JG and MM (stripping JG of offensive control and keeping KM around to run the offense), it would seem that Jerry actually wants a "walk-around" HC.

Hell, one could argue Bill Parcells was more of a walk around HC than not during his time in Dallas. He had Zimmer to run the D and then Payton and Sparano as defacto offensive playcallers. I think Parcells ran the offense his first year or two, but then pulled back and let Payton take over until Payton left, then passed it on to Sparano.

And didn't Wade get pulled off of defensive playcalling too?

IDK man, I think Jerry is all about the "walk-around" Head Coach.
 

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In 2007-2010, Garrett was one of the hottest OCs in football and many Boys fans wanted him to replace Wade. He did, and.......well, you know.

Moore may not be the same as the Clapper but his OC skills by no means translate to being a good HC either.
He's not ready
 

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Or he could be Sean McVay.

Or Sean Peyton.

Or Kliff Kingsbury.

Or Matt Rhule.

This is a completely different person and situation from Garrett or anyone else.

Stop fearmongering and trying to gaslight people.

You know nothing.
Or Kotite.....
 

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In 2007-2010, Garrett was one of the hottest OCs in football and many Boys fans wanted him to replace Wade. He did, and.......well, you know.

Moore may not be the same as the Clapper but his OC skills by no means translate to being a good HC either.
No it wouldn't. Not even close.
 

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No it wouldn't. Not even close.

I agree I don't think Moore is ready but that's not going to stop one of these teams from throwing 5 million a year at him to learn on the job. Garrett wasn't ready either but Jerry took a swing for the fences because had it worked out he would have looked like a genius and he could have given up shopping for coaches for the rest of his life. Think about this.. If Romo doesn't get hurt in 2015 the Cowboys probably win the division that year and probably never have the amazing 2016 draft.. and probably never get Dak.. But that team probably stays mediocre to very good and Garrett is still our coach..
 

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Or he could be Sean McVay.

Or Sean Peyton.

Or Kliff Kingsbury.

Or Matt Rhule.

This is a completely different person and situation from Garrett or anyone else.

Stop fearmongering and trying to gaslight people.

You know nothing.
the one thing all of these guys have is 10+ years coaching as an OC, Position Coach or Head Coach or some combination of all 3. moore is going to be good in 3 years. if he does not wait and learn moore (pun) he’s going to be zack taylor of the bengals or the other number of coaches who became head coaches too early and ruined there careers.
 

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I also remember eagles fans saying all the same stuff and same complaints about Andy Reid.

I honestly don’t care what the average fan in Green Bay felt about McCarthy. Sometimes people need a change in scenery.

Sometimes it takes a coach getting fired for him to take a step back and examine what he's being doing objectively and deciding to make some changes.
 

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I think Moore has shown signs that he is willing to hold people accountable. Giving Pollard a lot of reps against SD has seemingly lit a fire under Zeke. He's running now like he did his first 2 years. Thats good coaching.
Zeke is running better because he how sits in on OLine meetings and QB meetings and WR meetings. he’s said he does it to know what everyone else is doing to help him be in better position when he’s called to help.
 

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Name the player or coach Jerry wanted to keep but signed elsewhere.....if Jerry wants you to stay, you're staying, he's the best snake oil salesman in the league...
 
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