Best HC since JJ and we don't appreciate him

lk8701 said:

Parcells would have won the Super Bowl in 2007 if he stayed. He inherited a team bereft of talent. Making the playoffs with Quincy Carter and a bunch of other scrubs was one of the greatest coaching accomplishments in NFL history. If Parcells was younger and was the coach of this current team I would guarantee a Super Bowl win unless injuries derail them.

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Lol!

CATCH17 said:

To compliment McCarthy you have to create this story of things we can’t see or measure and then give him credit for those things.

All the things we can see or measure that we know he is directly involved with in game have been absolutely horrible at times. The guy is all over the place.

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Clearly, I'm personally not a fan of McCarthy. Yeah, he's better than Garrett, but so what? Garrett is a bum too.

Moore controls the offense. Quinn controls the defense. The one thing that we know for sure that McCarthy has full control over is time management, and as you can see from that article I shared, it's something that he has always been horrible at.

MountaineerCowboy said:

Okay, but that's not saying much.

If you bar is "just be better than Jason Garrett, Wade Phillips, and Dave Campo" then your bar is way too low.

You should expect MUCH better than those guys.

Jason Garrett had rookie Dak and Zeke sitting at 5-1 through 6 weeks, but MM is some kind of genius for having Dak and Zeke in their primes at 5-1 through 6 weeks? Again, expect better.

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The bar isn't just better than Garret, this team is light years better than Garrett did in 10 years. lol That's through a pandemic, with countless injuries to some of the best players on the team where you know they fall apart if JG was in this situation. A team with no balls, to a team with huge ones.. I know it's a lot to take in after the complete non confident garbage we've grown accustomed to.. even with Dak, Zeke, Martin, Smith, Collins, Fredericks, LMAO. Great things are happening here! Keep pretending McCarthy has nothing to do with that. lol

MountaineerCowboy said:

Okay, but that's not saying much.

If you bar is "just be better than Jason Garrett, Wade Phillips, and Dave Campo" then your bar is way too low.

You should expect MUCH better than those guys.

Jason Garrett had rookie Dak and Zeke sitting at 5-1 through 6 weeks, but MM is some kind of genius for having Dak and Zeke in their primes at 5-1 through 6 weeks? Again, expect better.

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Why should we expect MUCH better than those guys, who hired those guys?

This is a business that turns over 20-25% of their HC's every year and the time leashes are getting shorter, great HC's are in short supply. Are Reid, Payton and Carroll great or do their QB's make them look so?

I know what I do on the Couch but I really do not know what being a HC in the NFL entails and just how much is hands on or delegated. We see these people at practices or on the sideline during a game and make judgments based on limited information.

Each HC runs his ship his way and I would say McC deserves a solid B+ or A- so far. Yes, the sideline management is questionable at times but the man is an offensive minded HC with his team at the top in yards and points and 5-1 with a 3 game lead in his division.

As far as judging the job of the HC with the Cowboys, we have a little twist to that because we really do not know what goes on behind that curtain. We do not know if McC really wanted Moore as his OC or Quinn as his DC. What we do know is there is a direct connection between the HC and the comfort he gives the owner because that's how the previous one kept his job.

Ask not if we could do better and assume we could do worse....because we have and could have done that again. And some of you wanted Urban Meyer.

Ranching said:

he has our team ready to play every week. I appreciate MM and think he is doing a great job.

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agree, the team isn't starting the games off slow like before.

Ranching said:

MM is the best HC we've had since JJ and that's including Parcels that was just collecting a paycheck......I don't get the hate! All coaches make bad calls from time to time. But he has our team ready to play every week. I appreciate MM and think he is doing a great job.

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He needs to get better or handover the clock management to someone else, BUT he has this team playing better than they have in 25 years. They are relentless on both sides of the ball. I will gladly take the good with the bad with him. Sunday was a perfect example, Garrett loses that game 10 out of 10 times. Also, the backups come in and are actually READY to play! What a concept. My top sign of good coaching.

Rockport said:

Check other teams boards and you'll see fans complaining about their coaches blunders as well. All of them. Belicheck caught hell for punting in OT.

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MM has now created a pattern for the last 21 games. He has a lot of questionable ones over that time. If Pete Carrol had a pattern of costing his team the Super Bowl, he would not be the coach, but he did in fact cost them one!

CATCH17 said:

To compliment McCarthy you have to create this story of things we can’t see or measure and then give him credit for those things.

All the things we can see or measure that we know he is directly involved with in game have been absolutely horrible at times. The guy is all over the place.

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I wouldn’t call it creating a story. Unless you’re completely incapable of recognizing that games last about 3.5 hours on Sundays and there is thousands of hours of work all year long to prepare the team for those games.

It takes just as much storytelling to argue that those thousands of hours of preparation don’t matter at all and that the head coach doesn’t have anything to do with it.

Captain-Crash said:

agree, the team isn't starting the games off slow like before.

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They have pretty much kept the other team close for the Carolina, NYG and Philly and NE Games with mistakes. I am not sure they are starting the game ready!

daboyzruleperiod said:

Exactly! I bet they don't even realize that MM was the one who got Jerry to sign Quinn. With at least two picks in 10 consecutive games for the first time since 1976-77. Quinn & Co. are getting it done. And that my friend is what "non-haters" see.

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hadn't heard anything about mccarthy being the quinn advocate, expound?

DakPresgoat said:

I wouldn’t call it creating a story. Unless you’re completely incapable of recognizing that games last about 3.5 hours on Sundays and there is thousands of hours of work all year long to prepare the team for those games.

It takes just as much storytelling to argue that those thousands of hours of preparation don’t matter at all and that the head coach doesn’t have anything to do with it.

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You think McCarthy knows anything about hours?

Have you seen his time management skills?

Ranching said:

He has built a close knit locker room, one of my former teammates is a scout for the Cowboys and he feels that he has built a great environment....

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I think you’re right on here with locker room he deserves credit for that..most of the issues have been time mgmt related and team penalties/discipline.

Let’s see he adjusts going forward

DakPresgoat said:

I wouldn’t call it creating a story. Unless you’re completely incapable of recognizing that games last about 3.5 hours on Sundays and there is thousands of hours of work all year long to prepare the team for those games.

It takes just as much storytelling to argue that those thousands of hours of preparation don’t matter at all and that the head coach doesn’t have anything to do with it.

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I can create the story that McCarthy just lets his coordinators and assistants gameplan everything and he just handles the day to day operations and media.

The truth is we don’t know.

What we see on Sundays from him is an absolute clown show and the Packers haven’t missed a beat without him.

Is he better than Garrett and allowed this team to stepped into the modern age? Sure, I credit him for that. But he looks like a grandpa picking up an iPhone for the first time and trying to figure out how to use it when it comes to all of the analytics and technology at his disposal.

lk8701 said:

Parcells would have won the Super Bowl in 2007 if he stayed. He inherited a team bereft of talent. Making the playoffs with Quincy Carter and a bunch of other scrubs was one of the greatest coaching accomplishments in NFL history. If Parcells was younger and was the coach of this current team I would guarantee a Super Bowl win unless injuries derail them.

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WOULD Have really? you know this how like 100% lmao

this eastern yankee tool ran away like a little primidone

he QUIT

hes a QUITTER ill never forgive that EX NY piece of trash for quitting on us in the middle of putting this back together.,.hes done that everywhere hes been

hes the TO of coaches..

hes dead to me

MountaineerCowboy said:

You think McCarthy knows anything about hours?

Have you seen his time management skills?

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Lol!! You're a funny guy.....

daboyzruleperiod said:

I hear ya sweetie. Same hater's switched from Dak to MM. Probably the same ones who wanted the great Urban Meyers running the show too. MM has these players very explosive. Unbelievable difference from that Garrett era.

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so what players does MM have being "Explosive?"

Thats hilarious..... I guess Reid is amazing with how explosive he has made T Hill.

I didn't like or dislike the hire of MM as HC... it was a Meh moment to me.. But he hasnt' really impressed me since he has been here either. I am willing to cut him slack for the first year, but not much.. every team had covid issues, no training camp, etc. But losing QB 1 is a hard thing to overcome so.. ok. While we are 5-1 this year, we are a very sloppy team. We need to clean that up and soon. I wonder how many of you MM slobbers will be feeling when one of his bone head in game decisions sends this team home in the Divisional round this year? I just hope it is not against GB.. that would be hard to stomach.. watching A Rod yelling "i own you" at MM as he is reading timeout for dummies to decide what he should do.

Proof said:

hadn't heard anything about mccarthy being the quinn advocate, expound?

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I think the consensus of opinion here is that McC hired Nolan because they knew each other and that the Joneses fired him and hired Quinn. This would not be the first time Booger forced coaches on his HC.

Because of the weird way this team is run and even set up, we really don't have a clue how all of this went down.

There are two ways to look at McC and Quinn's hiring. One is he's a threat being an ex HC but the other is he's a boon because he's an ex HC and can help McC keep his job.

Almost 1/3 of our interaction here is based on the mystery of what happens behind the curtain at The Star.

Ranching said:

MM is the best HC we've had since JJ and that's including Parcels that was just collecting a paycheck......I don't get the hate! All coaches make bad calls from time to time. But he has our team ready to play every week. I appreciate MM and think he is doing a great job.

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No he's not the best HC, he's the HC with the best coaches.......................

CATCH17 said:

I can create the story that McCarthy just lets his coordinators and assistants gameplan everything and he just handles the day to day operations and media.

The truth is we don’t know.

What we see on Sundays from him is an absolute clown show and the Packers haven’t missed a beat without him.

Is he better than Garrett and allowed this team to stepped into the modern age? Sure, I credit him for that. But he looks like a grandpa picking up an iPhone for the first time and trying to figure out how to use it when it comes to all of the analytics and technology at his disposal.

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Right. So you’re just creating a story that he doesn’t have much to do with the teams performance.

While also saying that others are creating a story to say that he does.


That’s my point. I personally don’t believe that a head coach doesn’t have an impact and something to do with a team that is overall playing very well. Just because he makes some poor time management decisions.

the eagles went on to win a Super Bowl after getting rid of Andy Reid. Must have been Andy Reid holding them back all those years……

that to me is just silly.