Post Week 6: QB Combined Statistical Ranking

1. Murray (tied 1st)
2. Stafford (tied 1st)
3. Wilson **
4. Brady
5. Rodgers (tied 5th)
6. Cousins (tied 5th)
7. Prescott (tied 7th)
8. Allen (tied 7th)
9. Winston *
10. Mahomes
11. Burrow
12. Herbert
13. Hurts (tied 13th)
14. Wentz (tied 13th)
15. Bridgewater
16. Carr
17. Ryan *
18. Jackson
19. Mayfield
20. Garoppolo **
21. M Jones (tied 21)
22. Darnold (tied 21)
23. Heinike
24. Tannehill
25. Goff
26. Roethlisberger
27. D Jones
28. Brissett **
29. Lawrence
30. Fields **
31. Mills **
32. Z Wilson *

RonnieT24 said:

LOL.. it's kinda comical to see the rookies lined up at the rear.. And people were screaming for the Cowboys to tank and draft one of them. The mind boggles at how clueless people are when it comes to evaluating the QB position. They act like rookies just come in and play like Dak all the time. I think Dak is one of only like 5 or 6 rookie QBs to have a winning record since the merger. But all these college darlings were supposed to step in and be better than him.. Hilarious.

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DFWJC said:

Yep.

Two fold
1) they are rookies....and rookies generally su.., uh, I mean, are bad ...lol (see even P Manning or Aikman)
2) rookie QB usually go to teams with awful offenses....which is often why they were taken to begin with




fwiw
Dak got dropped into the best Oline in the league (and a record 3 All-Pros) and the league-leading (and All_Pro) rusher
Herbert also landed in a good spot too, though his line was a bit messed up, he had the weapons

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RonnieT24 said:

LOL.. it's kinda comical to see the rookies lined up at the rear.. And people were screaming for the Cowboys to tank and draft one of them. The mind boggles at how clueless people are when it comes to evaluating the QB position. They act like rookies just come in and play like Dak all the time. I think Dak is one of only like 5 or 6 rookie QBs to have a winning record since the merger. But all these college darlings were supposed to step in and be better than him.. Hilarious.

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DFWJC said:

6 weeks in. 11 games remaining (12 for those that had a bye week)

Weekly Disclaimer on this statistical ranking
This does NOT say which QB is the best.....ONLY how they have played so far this year in the first 6 games.

"Combined Stats" just means using two key stats that --when combined--almost always point to the QBs having the best season (the eventual All-Pros, MVPs, etc)

Those stats are:
1) Standard QB Passer rating
2) Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)

Here are the QB Rankings using Combined Stats after 6 weeks:
(* have had bye week, ** missed games )

1. Murray (tied 1st)
2. Stafford (tied 1st)
3. Wilson **
4. Brady
5. Rodgers (tied 5th)
6. Cousins (tied 5th)
7. Prescott (tied 7th)
8. Allen (tied 7th)
9. Winston *
10. Mahomes
11. Burrow
12. Herbert
13. Hurts (tied 13th)
14. Wentz (tied 13th)
15. Bridgewater
16. Carr
17. Ryan *
18. Jackson
19. Mayfield
20. Garoppolo **
21. M Jones (tied 21)
22. Darnold (tied 21)
23. Heinike
24. Tannehill
25. Goff
26. Roethlisberger
27. D Jones
28. Brissett **
29. Lawrence
30. Fields **
31. Mills **
32. Z Wilson *

Omitted Tua, Taylor, Lance, Dalton, Lock, G Smith

Last week's Ranking (post week 5)
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/post-week-5-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.485790/

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RonnieT24 said:

LOL.. it's kinda comical to see the rookies lined up at the rear.. And people were screaming for the Cowboys to tank and draft one of them. The mind boggles at how clueless people are when it comes to evaluating the QB position. They act like rookies just come in and play like Dak all the time. I think Dak is one of only like 5 or 6 rookie QBs to have a winning record since the merger. But all these college darlings were supposed to step in and be better than him.. Hilarious.

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• 4th in Passer Rating
• 10th in TDs-Turnovers
• 5th in Passing Yards/game (volume stat)
• 7th in YPA
• 2nd in Completion % (hard to judge unless YPA included)
• 16th in ESPN "QBR" (not a fan of this stat)

DFWJC said:

Yep.

Two fold
1) they are rookies....and rookies generally su.., uh, I mean, are bad ...lol (see even P Manning or Aikman)
2) rookie QB usually go to teams with awful offenses....which is often why they were taken to begin with




fwiw
Dak got dropped into the best Oline in the league (and a record 3 All-Pros) and the league-leading (and All_Pro) rusher
Herbert also landed in a good spot too, though his line was a bit messed up, he had the weapons

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RonnieT24 said:

The thing that separates Dak from most rookie QBs even Herbert was his decision making and how well he took care of the ball. What was it like game 6 against Green Bay before he threw his first INT? That is just ridiculous.. Over the last three years we have seen him try to find the balance between being aggressive when it's called for but still taking care of the ball. He's not perfect in that regard but he's damn close. I think as long as the defense is able to keep teams from running away Dak will continue to be a low turnover guy. If we fall way behind and he has to take more chances I think we will see some turnovers but the dude is like 3rd in NFL history in TD/INT ratio. I'm so glad he's our QB..

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DFWJC said:

6 weeks in. 11 games remaining (12 for those that had a bye week)

Weekly Disclaimer on this statistical ranking
This does NOT say which QB is the best.....ONLY how they have played so far this year in the first 6 games.

"Combined Stats" just means using two key stats that --when combined--almost always point to the QBs having the best season (the eventual All-Pros, MVPs, etc)

Those stats are:
1) Standard QB Passer rating
2) Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)

Here are the QB Rankings using Combined Stats after 6 weeks:
(* have had bye week, ** missed games )

1. Murray (tied 1st)
2. Stafford (tied 1st)
3. Wilson **
4. Brady
5. Rodgers (tied 5th)
6. Cousins (tied 5th)
7. Prescott (tied 7th)
8. Allen (tied 7th)
9. Winston *
10. Mahomes
11. Burrow
12. Herbert
13. Hurts (tied 13th)
14. Wentz (tied 13th)
15. Bridgewater
16. Carr
17. Ryan *
18. Jackson
19. Mayfield
20. Garoppolo **
21. M Jones (tied 21)
22. Darnold (tied 21)
23. Heinike
24. Tannehill
25. Goff
26. Roethlisberger
27. D Jones
28. Brissett **
29. Lawrence
30. Fields **
31. Mills **
32. Z Wilson *

Omitted Tua, Taylor, Lance, Dalton, Lock, G Smith

Last week's Ranking (post week 5)
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/post-week-5-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.485790/

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DFWJC said:

6 weeks in. 11 games remaining (12 for those that had a bye week)

Weekly Disclaimer on this statistical ranking
This does NOT say which QB is the best.....ONLY how they have played so far this year in the first 6 games.

"Combined Stats" just means using two key stats that --when combined--almost always point to the QBs having the best season (the eventual All-Pros, MVPs, etc)

Those stats are:
1) Standard QB Passer rating
2) Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)

Here are the QB Rankings using Combined Stats after 6 weeks:
(* have had bye week, ** missed games )

1. Murray (tied 1st)
2. Stafford (tied 1st)
3. Wilson **
4. Brady
5. Rodgers (tied 5th)
6. Cousins (tied 5th)
7. Prescott (tied 7th)
8. Allen (tied 7th)
9. Winston *
10. Mahomes
11. Burrow
12. Herbert
13. Hurts (tied 13th)
14. Wentz (tied 13th)
15. Bridgewater
16. Carr
17. Ryan *
18. Jackson
19. Mayfield
20. Garoppolo **
21. M Jones (tied 21)
22. Darnold (tied 21)
23. Heinike
24. Tannehill
25. Goff
26. Roethlisberger
27. D Jones
28. Brissett **
29. Lawrence
30. Fields **
31. Mills **
32. Z Wilson *

Omitted Tua, Taylor, Lance, Dalton, Lock, G Smith

Last week's Ranking (post week 5)
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/post-week-5-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.485790/

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America's Cowboy said:

Once again, the stupid/crooked officials hurt Dak by refusing to call an obvious TD when Dak QB sneaked the football over the goal line from the 1 yard line. This forced the following play where Dak had the ball hit from his grip as he tried to reach over the pile on 4th and goal the following play, resulting in a fumble that was recovered in the endzone by the Patriots. I'm so glad Zeke called out them crooked officials. Enough is enough. Yes, Zeke will get fined, but it was worth it and much needed to get addressed.

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RonnieT24 said:

LOL.. it's kinda comical to see the rookies lined up at the rear.. And people were screaming for the Cowboys to tank and draft one of them. The mind boggles at how clueless people are when it comes to evaluating the QB position. They act like rookies just come in and play like Dak all the time. I think Dak is one of only like 5 or 6 rookie QBs to have a winning record since the merger. But all these college darlings were supposed to step in and be better than him.. Hilarious.

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DFWJC said:

6 weeks in. 11 games remaining (12 for those that had a bye week)

Weekly Disclaimer on this statistical ranking
This does NOT say which QB is the best.....ONLY how they have played so far this year in the first 6 games.

"Combined Stats" just means using two key stats that --when combined--almost always point to the QBs having the best season (the eventual All-Pros, MVPs, etc)

Those stats are:
1) Standard QB Passer rating
2) Total TDs (Rushing and Passing) - Total Turnovers (Fumbles lost and Interceptions)

Here are the QB Rankings using Combined Stats after 6 weeks:
(* have had bye week, ** missed games )

1. Murray (tied 1st)
2. Stafford (tied 1st)
3. Wilson **
4. Brady
5. Rodgers (tied 5th)
6. Cousins (tied 5th)
7. Prescott (tied 7th)
8. Allen (tied 7th)
9. Winston *
10. Mahomes
11. Burrow
12. Herbert
13. Hurts (tied 13th)
14. Wentz (tied 13th)
15. Bridgewater
16. Carr
17. Ryan *
18. Jackson
19. Mayfield
20. Garoppolo **
21. M Jones (tied 21)
22. Darnold (tied 21)
23. Heinike
24. Tannehill
25. Goff
26. Roethlisberger
27. D Jones
28. Brissett **
29. Lawrence
30. Fields **
31. Mills **
32. Z Wilson *

Omitted Tua, Taylor, Lance, Dalton, Lock, G Smith

Last week's Ranking (post week 5)
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/post-week-5-qb-combined-statistical-ranking.485790/

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Rack said:

You're using bad play by rookie qbs to back up your argument that people are clueless evaluating qbs?

They're ROOKIES, wth do you expect? They were drafted high because the teams they are on SUCKED last year.

Wow.

What was Peyton Manning's statistical ranking his rookie year, just curious.

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RonnieT24 said:

I don't know if you noticed it or not but OUR team SUCKED last year without Dak. The point is that we had a guy near the top of the game and we had people screaming to kick him to the curb in favor of one of these kids. This team is not 5-1 with a kid at QB.. Period..

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Rack said:

I didn't say anything about Dak. Stick to the point.

My point has nothing to do with the cowboys at all. It's the ignorance of using rookie QB's on bad teams as a way to say "I told you so".

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