Film watchers - can you assess LVE play?

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He's alright. He deserves to be in the league and will remain on rosters for the forseeable future, but I don't think he's an annual pro bowler or anything. Will always be in rotation, knows his job and does it, but will never really be a superstar.

That's fine btw - not the entire roster has to be, but you should always look to improve.
 
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JohnsKey19 said:
Slow and tentative. It's remarkable to see given how young he still is...
I can make sense of the tentative play given his neck issues, but why he's lost his agility and speed seemingly overnight is a mystery.
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Agreed.

He appears very rigid and stiff. Especially when he is breaking down to tackle or change directions. Would like to think it’s tied to those neck issues?
 
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LVE struggles getting off blocks. He’s not physical at the point of attack when he takes on a blocker or has to fill a lane. A technique I noticed he and Jaylon like to do is this olay bull fighting move where they engage with the blocker get pushed back, and then try to use the blocker’s momentum against him by side stepping past him. It’s lame. I’ve literally seen them take themselves out of plays doing this.

I was rewatching the Pats game and that first big run they had on their opening drive was largely on him. He was slow in stepping into the hole that he was directly in front of; the play was there to be made. Instead, he waited, which allowed the OG time to engage him and then LVE made a weak attempt at the tackle.

I also believe the neck injury has impacted him physically. He looks really rigid and stiff when trying to breakdown to make a tackle. That wasn’t the case in 2018. Every LB will miss a tackle on occasion but that missed tackle he had in the open field against the Pats was Jaylonesque.
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First, let me say I don't think LVE has been as bad as Jaylon this year. Jaylon was much worse. Having said that, you hit the nail on the head. LVE and Jaylon are both slow filling holes. But all the Cowboys LBs seem to be this way, even Parsons is learning this to an extent. When they do not close on the LOS, it allows offensive linemen time to get out and block them. This is why we see the Cowboys defense gashed for big runs a lot. Last year I thought this was the players not trusting each other to do their jobs. Weirdly, this is what I think LVE meant when he told Parsons not to try to make every play. I think he was saying just be where you are supposed to be and trust that everyone else will be too. I agree with this to a certain extent but this doesn't mean don't be aggressive.

LVE is big and slow. I thought he look like he was lumbering at the combine before the draft. I don't think big slow LBs are needed in the NFL anymore. Today it is all about speed.
 
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He is average.

Looks like a guy a team can find at pick 18 in the 5th round.

To his credit he's been in the right position but at times fails to step up to make a play. Ie shedding blocks or stepping up for high collision play.
 
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Mini fans want to see more of Parsons on the line. I think he needs to play Linebacker until Coxx develops. I don’t know why Cox doesn’t get more playing time
 
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Obviously not the same player for a myriad of reasons but until he can be replaced or losses Quinn’s confidence we can only hope he prove she not to be a liability.
 
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McKDaddy said:
I don't know that Jaylon has played better than anyone in the league in the last few years. I mean he is beyond terrible.

LVE is generally in the right place, he just isn't playing loose to finish the play forcefully. As my other post said, I think its mental to protect his neck. While I can understand, to be a professional athlete you need to be all in or all out. Looks like he needs to be out.
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Without being bias go watch film of this season of every play of both Leighton and Jaylon Smith. After that if you come away that Jaylon wasn't playing better than Leighton, much less than anyone in the league, than you haven't a clue what you are watching
 
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In his pro bowl year, he wasn’t expected to take on blockers or be a thumper. He played outside and ran down RBs and was effective in pass coverage.
 
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I think people are misinterpreting his advice to Parsons. No, you cannot and should not try to make every play! You must focus on doing your job, not running after everything you think you see, that’s when a defense gives up big plays. You fill your gap, you cover your zone, you stay home sometimes to stop the cutback.

Part of LVEs response was “sometimes that’s another guy’s play to make.” It doesn’t mean be a slacker and let someone else make the play. Ever heard Belichek quoted, “Just do your job” ?

It’s part of having a solid, sound defense.
 
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Hes ok. He frustrates me how he cant get off blocks sometimes and hes slow to read the play. He doesn't do it consistently to make an impact.
 
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Take comp picks for him and # 52 and move on. The more picks in the hands of McClay the better off we become. Churn the roster.
 
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Creeper said:
First, let me say I don't think LVE has been as bad as Jaylon this year. Jaylon was much worse. Having said that, you hit the nail on the head. LVE and Jaylon are both slow filling holes. But all the Cowboys LBs seem to be this way, even Parsons is learning this to an extent. When they do not close on the LOS, it allows offensive linemen time to get out and block them. This is why we see the Cowboys defense gashed for big runs a lot. Last year I thought this was the players not trusting each other to do their jobs. Weirdly, this is what I think LVE meant when he told Parsons not to try to make every play. I think he was saying just be where you are supposed to be and trust that everyone else will be too. I agree with this to a certain extent but this doesn't mean don't be aggressive.

LVE is big and slow. I thought he look like he was lumbering at the combine before the draft. I don't think big slow LBs are needed in the NFL anymore. Today it is all about speed.
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It doesn't help when DL either fall for WHAMS and Traps or get blown off the ball. The DL needs to tie up OL so the LB stay free to flow.
 
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Chuck 54 said:
I think people are misinterpreting his advice to Parsons. No, you cannot and should not try to make every play! You must focus on doing your job, not running after everything you think you see, that’s when a defense gives up big plays. You fill your gap, you cover your zone, you stay home sometimes to stop the cutback.

Part of LVEs response was “sometimes that’s another guy’s play to make.” It doesn’t mean be a slacker and let someone else make the play. Ever heard Belichek quoted, “Just do your job” ?

It’s part of having a solid, sound defense.
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Funny how people only here what confirms their bias. When I heard it that that is how I understood it as well. Focus on your job your plays before worrying about someone else's job and plays.
 
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I think cutting Jaylon opened his eyes up to the NFL ...as being a business....and he's already looking ahead @ 2022. When Cowboys dropped his 5th year option...the writing was on the wall...LVE has to show he can stay healthy and play 17 games. Can't blame him for making "business" decisions....especially knowing he's not going to get a decent payday here. Sometimes a guy has to do what is best for #1......because it sure doesn't look like Jerry and co. have his best interest @ heart. Funny how quickly they forget his pro bowl year....but hung on to the human piece of glass Sean Lee.
 
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Floatyworm said:
I think cutting Jaylon opened his eyes up to the NFL ...as being a business....and he's already looking ahead @ 2022. When Cowboys dropped his 5th year option...the writing was on the wall...LVE has to show he can stay healthy and play 17 games. Can't blame him for making "business" decisions....especially knowing he's not going to get a decent payday here. Sometimes a guy has to do what is best for #1......because it sure doesn't look like Jerry and co. have his best interest @ heart. Funny how quickly they forget his pro bowl year....but hung on to the human piece of glass Sean Lee.
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come on Boise, comparing esch to Lee. At this point in both their careers Lee had missed less games than esch and Lee made play after play when on the field. If Lee is glass esch might be sand. in all seriousness, I will continue to hold out hope that Lee’s game improves, but making business decisions in a contract year probably isn’t the best move.
 
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