Dak Prescott stats when the game is tied in the 4th quarter or OT

CowboyRoy

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But...but...but (insert which other QB you prefer) is supposedly better and more clutch than Dak!!! I've heard it around here over the years...
Catch17 said Dak doesn’t impact winning.

Remember him jumping off a cliff when dak resigned for 40 million?

“we will now be mired in mediocrity for the next 10 years because of this contract”

“we should let dak walk and rebuild”
 

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Man, where are all those dudes that posted here in 2018 that Dak was JAG and that NO OTHER TEAM would pay him $15MM/yr and that $25MM/yr would be a 'stupid JJ contract'? Maybe they're still here but I just have them blocked, idk.

Not good for us, but how smart was the young man's agent to get the 4 year deal signed? Two bites at the apple and if he stays healthy, he'll make generational money. Already has, really.

He may or may not end up being better than Mahomes, but there's an excellent chance he makes more money lifetime than Patrick if you back out their rookie deals.
Catch17 is still here.
 

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"Dak is playing better than anyone expected"

No, many on here debate constantly how good Dak is. It's the guys we call haters that keep saying her isn't good. But instead of admitting you guys were wrong the goal post is moved to........ Dak is playing better than anyone expected...... Haha sure thing skippy....... maybe i shouldn't write that cause now you will play the victim and complain to mods, while you do the same thing you are complaining about.
He's an embarrassment.
 

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Actually what he said was "better than ANYONE expected." I know it's splitting hairs but if we're going to attack a man on his words then attack him on HIS words not our interpretation of his words. Yes there were plenty of us who thought Dak would get to this level but there were also plenty who had doubts.. Frankly I think what is surprising us is the rest of the team.. the defense in particular. They're not WASTING these great performances by Dak. They're also not so bad that he's going out there thinking he has to press and score every damn possession. I think the TEAM is playing better than anyone expected.. But I don't think Dak is..
Same meaning.

"Better than anyone expected" and "everybody" means the same thing.
 

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It's the truth.
What does mentioning The Name have to do with the excellent performance of Dak Prescott, as specified in the OP? :huh:

"The truth" helped derail what began as a great thread.

Sometimes, a little too much "truth" is a bad thing. Just my two cents. I'm out.
 

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Personally I have seen leaps and bounds by Dak from where he was in 2016 to now. 2016 claims all he does is dink and dunk, that is no longer the case. Dak can't throw the fade rout or back shoulder he is showing now he can. Fact is Dak in 2016 in my view was a good young QB to now being a QB who has developed and improved his play. And I can promise when this season is done Dak will look at things he feels he needs to do to continue to improve himself as a QB. Problem I see quite often here are early judgements on players and some cling to those narratives regardless of the work and improvement that player makes. Once you are in the dog house around here some never let a player out. Very few players are fully developed to play at a high level when they enter the league, especially QB, it takes time and a lot of work
 

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Personally I have seen leaps and bounds by Dak from where he was in 2016 to now. 2016 claims all he does is dink and dunk, that is no longer the case. Dak can't throw the fade rout or back shoulder he is showing now he can. Fact is Dak in 2016 in my view was a good young QB to now being a QB who has developed and improved his play. And I can promise when this season is done Dak will look at things he feels he needs to do to continue to improve himself as a QB. Problem I see quite often here are early judgements on players and some cling to those narratives regardless of the work and improvement that player makes. Once you are in the dog house around here some never let a player out. Very few players are fully developed to play at a high level when they enter the league, especially QB, it takes time and a lot of work

This is true.. What has always impressed me about Dak is that after watching what he was in college you had no reason to believe he was going to be THIS good passer. He just didn't have the mechanics coming into the NFL. We all know that mechanics and footwork can be improved but people told us he had below average arm strength and that his accuracy would never be NFL level.. Since I am not a professional scout of NFL coach I took what those people said to heart and had it color my view when I watched Dak play. What I would invariably come away with was that while there was a couple of throws here and there that missed the mark, by and large his passes arrived on target. Then I watched for his velocity.. and concluded that they were wrong about his arm strength too. I knew Dak had a long way to go to get to elite QB status.. but I never went so far as to declare that he couldn't do it like some others have done. So I have never had any vested interested in "being right" about him. I have always been content to watch him play and grow and develop. The main thing that stood out about him his rookie year was the 4 INTs.. ALL YEAR!!! That told me the whole "he's not accurate" noise was BS. You can't keep the ball out of interception situations while completing a high percentage of your passes without it going where you want it to go. That's the very definition of accuracy.. So I've pretty much dismissed that one for several years.
 

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What does mentioning The Name have to do with the excellent performance of Dak Prescott, as specified in the OP? :huh:

"The truth" helped derail what began as a great thread.

Sometimes, a little too much "truth" is a bad thing. Just my two cents. I'm out.
It's because it has nothing to do with Romo. It has to do with those Romosexuals who are still hurt for how Dak's rookie performance supplanted Romo and never allowed Romo to get his starting job back, thus forcing Romo into retirement. They refuse to give Dak any support or recognition, thus why they keep attacking and questioning his performance every year up to today and very likely will continue.

So, no, imo... the truth did not derail this thread. Those detractors do...or try to.
 

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very good point. people hate to be wrong and have a hard time admitting it. its their mental weakness to think that way.

and to your point, yes he was not very accurate his first 3 years. Kitna helped him tremendously, with his foot work, which improved his accuracy. a lot of his issues and sacks were becaue he didn't trust his own arm so he would hold on too long. I advocated back then not to extend him, until he can improve that. if he did, he would be good and we pay a little more and at least we got the QB right. if he didn't it would be hard to get out of a large contract.....and he proved he can. he has improved his game every year.......
For me, Dak has done what very few football players, let alone QBs, have been able to do -- improve the weak points in his game so that they are strengths. We are incredibly fortunate.
 

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It's because it has nothing to do with Romo. It has to do with those Romosexuals who are still hurt for how Dak's rookie performance supplanted Romo and never allowed Romo to get his starting job back, thus forcing Romo into retirement. They refuse to give Dak any support or recognition, thus why they keep attacking and questioning his performance every year up to today and very likely will continue.

So, no, imo... the truth did not derail this thread. Those detractors do...or try to.
To be fair, it was Romo's collarbone that forced him into retirement. Dak's play was good enough to make that an 'easier' decision -- I hated it for Romo, but the team saw an opportunity to make a clean transition into the future and they took it. It was hard to argue with the logic of it.

If Romo had some random injury I just don't see him losing his job forever. At the time he was still the better QB and he would have given us the best chance in the playoffs that year. But the writing was on the wall that his collarbone was never going to hold up in the long term. It was the right decision, it was time to move on, and Dak has improved every year.
 

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To be fair, it was Romo's collarbone that forced him into retirement. Dak's play was good enough to make that an 'easier' decision -- I hated it for Romo, but the team saw an opportunity to make a clean transition into the future and they took it. It was hard to argue with the logic of it.

If Romo had some random injury I just don't see him losing his job forever. At the time he was still the better QB and he would have given us the best chance in the playoffs that year. But the writing was on the wall that his collarbone was never going to hold up in the long term. It was the right decision, it was time to move on, and Dak has improved every year.
I disagree. Dak's rookie performance in the playoffs against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers was better than any playoff performance Romo ever had.
 

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Oddly enough Dak's 'accuracy' % of his passes this season is listed as 79%, which is only slightly up from 77.6% in 2019 and 77.1% in 2020. I honestly would have thought it would have been higher based on his Comp % being up over 5% from his career best (68% in 2020). While drops have decreased from 13 in 2020 (based on 5 games) to 5 in 2021 (based on 6 games), Dak's Bad Throw % has dropped from 15.1% in 2020 to 12.4% in 2021 all while seeing his YPA at 8.4 which is the same as it was in 2020 (career best average).

Given Dak's rushed are only slightly up compared to 2020 (18 attempts in 5 games versus 22 attempts in 6 games), Dak is facing less pressure as his pressure % in 2021 is 15.5% (compared to 21.7% in 2020) so while his injury last season was devestating it might have actually aided in his advancement by way of his passing game being much more precise.

I think McCarthy's training also has made vast improvements to Dak. He is seeing the field alot better and when he rolls out of the pocket, he doesn't just take off and run. He's finding the open man and hitting them in stride. Something that he hasn't done quite a bit in the past.
 

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I disagree. Dak's rookie performance in the playoffs against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers was better than any playoff performance Romo ever had.

And Romo stans wish to believe he was the better QB that year. Had by some miracle, Romo made it into that game without being injured again; he would’ve likely wilted under the pressure. Best case scenario is he matches Dak’s performance, but unlikely. Switching QBs mid season would’ve made no difference on the eventual outcome regardless.
 

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To be fair, it was Romo's collarbone that forced him into retirement. Dak's play was good enough to make that an 'easier' decision -- I hated it for Romo, but the team saw an opportunity to make a clean transition into the future and they took it. It was hard to argue with the logic of it.

If Romo had some random injury I just don't see him losing his job forever. At the time he was still the better QB and he would have given us the best chance in the playoffs that year. But the writing was on the wall that his collarbone was never going to hold up in the long term. It was the right decision, it was time to move on, and Dak has improved every year.
Romo's injury was his back. That injury in Seattle was literally the straw that broke the camels back.
 

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I disagree. Dak's rookie performance in the playoffs against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers was better than any playoff performance Romo ever had.
Romo's performance against the Lions was amazing. And so was his performance against the Packers. Same thing that happened to him happened to Dak. Defense couldnt stop Rodgers. The Murray fumble for Romo, and Byron Jones leaving the tight end wide open. 2 plays. Thats all it took. I remember a poster here saying that "Romo wouldnt need to be told when to check out of a run" Romo did check out of a run on 4th and 2 in GB and played hero ball. We know the rest.
 

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I think McCarthy's training also has made vast improvements to Dak. He is seeing the field alot better and when he rolls out of the pocket, he doesn't just take off and run. He's finding the open man and hitting them in stride. Something that he hasn't done quite a bit in the past.

Dak has never been a take off and run QB. In fact given his athleticism I always thought he should run MORE. He has always been amazing at throwing on the run. He had an occasional bad throw owed to work needed on his footwork IMHO. But his completion percentages and other passing numbers scream great passer regardless of what these trolls have been telling us. His ball placement has been good from the git go and now it's just ridiculous. Cowboy fans everywhere should rejoice that we have this guy.
 

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Romo's performance against the Lions was amazing. And so was his performance against the Packers. Same thing that happened to him happened to Dak. Defense couldnt stop Rodgers. The Murray fumble for Romo, and Byron Jones leaving the tight end wide open. 2 plays. Thats all it took. I remember a poster here saying that "Romo wouldnt need to be told when to check out of a run" Romo did check out of a run on 4th and 2 in GB and played hero ball. We know the rest.

Lest we forget Romo also had a receiver wide open for the first down on that play where he heaved it to Dez. Even if the a holes back in NYC had gotten the call right it still would have been the wrong throw in that situation. We needed to score the winning points with no time left on the clock because of who was on the other sideline. Heaving it 40 yards for a TD with 4 minutes left was the last thing we wanted to do. Still Romo's passer rating in his last two playoff games was a combined 125.7. 4 TDs, 0 INTs. I would have liked to have seen him start that 2016 game.. cause I think by that point his experience would have made a huge difference.
 
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