Video: Connor Williams was solid against Pats

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I don't think Connor Williams is terrible. But I do think his position can and should be upgraded. The Patriots don't exactly have studs at DT and in this video clip Williams is most effective blocking LBs and safeties.

His problem is when he has a big strong DT right in front of him. Both he and Biadasz get overpowered.

This video clip shows a pretty average LG who makes a few good blocks and misses a few. We can't have an all-pro at every position but they can do better than Connor Williams. They could also be fine with him, but they will struggle at times. Weaknesses like the Cowboys LG and C will show themselves in big games.

This isn't personal even though we are criticizing his playing ability. It is just an observation about his performance.
The bye week rightfully so, is 4 finding ways 2 get healthy and improve your team. Lets see what we do.
 

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I don't think Connor Williams is terrible. But I do think his position can and should be upgraded. The Patriots don't exactly have studs at DT and in this video clip Williams is most effective blocking LBs and safeties.

His problem is when he has a big strong DT right in front of him. Both he and Biadasz get overpowered.

This video clip shows a pretty average LG who makes a few good blocks and misses a few. We can't have an all-pro at every position but they can do better than Connor Williams. They could also be fine with him, but they will struggle at times. Weaknesses like the Cowboys LG and C will show themselves in big games.

This isn't personal even though we are criticizing his playing ability. It is just an observation about his performance.

Don't you think the coaching staff has a plan here? They meticulous study every play and understand what needs to be done. If they don't think what we have in the middle with conner and biadaz they will figure it out, but judging on the fact that we have great stats punishing lineman and opening up holes for our highly effective running game I'm pretty sure the coaches and taking the good with the bad. Do you not realize that even Aaron Donald gets blown back and pancaked? Heck he was smacked pretty good by Conner in a scrimmage, and he loses battles every week.. I know he is a DT, but all players get beat, it's the overall picture.
 

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I am harsh on Williams. I re-watched the Giants game last night. I missed most of it a couple weeks ago. Williams played really well. He was matched up against Leonard Williams most of the game. LW is a load. Connor had some trouble with LW's strength but he held up well enough. He excelled as a pulling G all game. The guy is a good athlete. Also did a nice job blocking into the second level. I think I might be too harsh on the guy.

As an aside Randy Gregory was a mule that game. Giants sometimes had 2 or 3 guys on him. He just destroyed that game plan. I don't want to ever hear Gregory isn't strong enough at the point of attack or weak in the running game. That is complete garbage. The guy is an all around defender and a potential game wrecker.

Gregory's critics have already closed their ignorant mouths.
 

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Don't you think the coaching staff has a plan here? They meticulous study every play and understand what needs to be done. If they don't think what we have in the middle with conner and biadaz they will figure it out, but judging on the fact that we have great stats punishing lineman and opening up holes for our highly effective running game I'm pretty sure the coaches and taking the good with the bad. Do you not realize that even Aaron Donald gets blown back and pancaked? Heck he was smacked pretty good by Conner in a scrimmage, and he loses battles every week.. I know he is a DT, but all players get beat, it's the overall picture.

I think the Cowboys are well aware of what they have. They also know it is his last year on his current contract and next year they will have to make a decision. I bet that decision has already been made.
 

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Zeke is also to blame for not converting those 3rd or 4th & 1s for first downs or for a potential TD at the goal line simply because Zeke is too scared, refuses to get airborne and simply dive over the pile the way Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, Priest Holmes, Marcus Allen, LaDainian Thompson, etc.
Zeke doesn't strike me as being "afraid" of anything with the contact he takes on lol.
 

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I think the Cowboys are well aware of what they have. They also know it is his last year on his current contract and next year they will have to make a decision. I bet that decision has already been made.
Yep.. I notice you are called Creeper and have a guitar in your profile.. Are you into any band named "Creeper" by chance? I know of two bands named that..
 

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Don't you think the coaching staff has a plan here? They meticulous study every play and understand what needs to be done. If they don't think what we have in the middle with conner and biadaz they will figure it out, but judging on the fact that we have great stats punishing lineman and opening up holes for our highly effective running game I'm pretty sure the coaches and taking the good with the bad. Do you not realize that even Aaron Donald gets blown back and pancaked? Heck he was smacked pretty good by Conner in a scrimmage, and he loses battles every week.. I know he is a DT, but all players get beat, it's the overall picture.
I dont mind him getting beat time from time, but those holding calls hurt. He gets 2 many. Refs tend to target him unfairly. We see it every week. But CW gives them reason 2 do so. He must better himself in that regard or we need 2 find an upgrade. Tyler B. took a beating from folks last few weeks for his snaps and so forth, but we must say, he had a nice game last week against NE. Not 1 issue. I think we stick with the kid and see what he does but in the meantime, we better have a center on speed dial.
 

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Connor can be manhandled and he holds a lot for that reason.

He’s an assignment guy. He’s not going to mess up and he’s pretty good at getting to the 2nd level.

I would prefer someone more physical in a Ron Leary mold instead of this finesse guy who the officials have decided to watch like a hawk.
 

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Gregory's critics have already closed their ignorant mouths.
JJ looks like a damned genius at this point for drafting him. He was labeled a bust pretty much due to him liking the dutchie lol. Now look at him. Dude has focused, cleaned himself up and looks like a steal suddenly. Turns out ole JJ gets it right more than he and staff gets things wrong. Look at the last 2 drafts we had btw. What other team has drafted as well as us last few years? I venture 2 say, maybe just 2 . BTW...its 1 thing to draft well, its quite anther to have the staff to fit it all together as 1 finely tuned machine and make it work. Since 2016 til present. We have drafted well. Except for 2017. That was fairly rough. Lets thank God that we have this current staff that gets it, including HC Mike McCarthy and DQ. They seem 2 work really well together.
 
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Connor can be manhandled and he holds a lot for that reason.

He’s an assignment guy. He’s not going to mess up and he’s pretty good at getting to the 2nd level.

I would prefer someone more physical in a Ron Leary mold instead of this finesse guy who the officials have decided to watch like a hawk.
I agree 100%. Leary was just a mauler that we never saw get manhandled. THAT is what the LG position requires. Which is why I absolutely luv the idea of putting LC back at LG, his original position when he first got here.IMO, he's a mauler and plays best in a phone booth at LG. CW isnt that as u said.
 

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I think CW was a tackle at Texas. A great 1 at that. I agree. Lets try him at tackle. I say he's a candidate 4 the next swing tackle.
I have been hard on Williams but I think he would be a better equipped as a swing OT.
 

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I agree 100%. Leary was just a mauler that we never saw get manhandled. THAT is what the LG position requires. Which is why I absolutely luv the idea of putting LC back at LG, his original position when he first got here.IMO, he's a mauler and plays best in a phone booth at LG. CW isnt that as u said.

Or just use McGovern.

Pretty odd how dedicated the Cowboys are to Connor Williams.

Connor Williams could start for nearly every NFL team but Dallas has upgrades and for some reason they just refuse to use them.
 

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Or just use McGovern.

Pretty odd how dedicated the Cowboys are to Connor Williams.

Connor Williams could start for nearly every NFL team but Dallas has upgrades and for some reason they just refuse to use them.
agree. Its weird.
 

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Some of you guys tend to only remember the plays when he gets bullrushed into Dak. The fact is that he has greatly improved this year so far and grades out as the 12th ranked G on PFF with a score of 75. Thats very respectable and by far his best ranking ever. Granted he's not Zach Martin, but nobody else is either.
 

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It's possible he'll be retained as a backup, rather than let go or traded. Time will tell on that. His days as a starter may be limited, tho.
Please there are tons of guys that look worse than him they have gotten paid. He will be an above average started on some other team next year probably making close to what Zack Martin is making now.
 

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Some of you guys tend to only remember the plays when he gets bullrushed into Dak. The fact is that he has greatly improved this year so far and grades out as the 12th ranked G on PFF with a score of 75. Thats very respectable and by far his best ranking ever. Granted he's not Zach Martin, but nobody else is either.
Doug Free was given more free passes than this guy and while I though Free was above average he deserved much more criticism from others not names Stash or Xwalker.
 

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He's a free agent after this year. He'll get paid to be a starter someplace.

No problem there. His play was average at best, and we can get that from a cheaper option. We are not saying he stinks to high heaven....just that he does not play for the contract he will want.

Steele is different. He is improving and his contract right now is affordable.
 

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Please there are tons of guys that look worse than him they have gotten paid. He will be an above average started on some other team next year probably making close to what Zack Martin is making now.

Please, yourself. He is nowhere close to Zack Martin in performance, nor worth. The FO and the staff will decide what to do with him. Aside from that, I never said he was the worst LG available. I just said he was replaceable and that his penalties might make him vulnerable to being replaced. Sure, there are many guys that are worse than he is and many that are better and don't get flagged as easily. We'll see if he's retained next year or not. The staff will do whatever they deem is best.
 
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No problem there. His play was average at best, and we can get that from a cheaper option. We are not saying he stinks to high heaven....just that he does not play for the contract he will want.

Steele is different. He is improving and his contract right now is affordable.

I should have been more clear - I mean to say "he will get paid to be a starter someplace else." I don't see Williams on this team in 2022.
 
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