Gameplan against Dallas (what say you?)

BEARCATSKLZ

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What did we learn from the New England game and the 1st part of the season, regarding how teams will try to play the Cowboys offensively and defensively out of the bye. Belichick is a great coach so teams was paying attention.

Offensive: stop the run or pass? Make zek or dak beat you? (Tampa and NE approach was definitely make Dak beat you.)

Defensive: make Dallas stop the run or pass? Or will we get a balance offensive attack?

I think teams will force Dak to beat them on offense as Bill and Tampa did... but have no clue where teams will attack this defense. (Diggs, Lawrence and Gregory can impact here forcing teams to run if we have a good pass rush.)

Guess it depends on the opponent team's strengths
 

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Lol! What's your point? You're asking a question so that you can argue against? If so, go at it....I'm out.
Not at all, Just communicating ... no right or wrong answers since we all just fans bruh (I think )Be easy... I actually think teams will imploy, as you implied, a bend but don't break def
 

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What did we learn from the New England game and the 1st part of the season, regarding how teams will try to play the Cowboys offensively and defensively out of the bye. Belichick is a great coach so teams was paying attention.

Offensive: stop the run or pass? Make zek or dak beat you? (Tampa and NE approach was definitely make Dak beat you.)

Defensive: make Dallas stop the run or pass? Or will we get a balance offensive attack?

I think teams will force Dak to beat them on offense as Bill and Tampa did... but have no clue where teams will attack this defense. (Diggs, Lawrence and Gregory can impact here forcing teams to run if we have a good pass rush.)

Guess it depends on the opponent team's strengths

NE sold out to take away the run game and double Shultz in the pass. Dak was forced to beat them on the outside, which he eventually did with Lamb having a monster game. On offense they attacked our run defense, which still remains a big question mark, we will see for sure how good they are against Davin Cook on Halloween.
 

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The Boys offense is as good as it comes, very hard too defend it.
Only an off and weird day (NE), injuries is your chance. Yeah, turnovers
are included to those.

Attacking the Boys, for now, run up the middle, then play action;
the backers can be had.
throw deep opposite Trevon.

While we're at it, personal conduct could become an issue as we've just
experience. Lots of young and/or perhaps immature players could be a
detriment.

5-1 record suggests not an easy task.
 

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NE sold out to take away the run game and double Shultz in the pass. Dak was forced to beat them on the outside, which he eventually did with Lamb having a monster game. On offense they attacked our run defense, which still remains a big question mark, we will see for sure how good they are against Davin Cook on Halloween.
Excellent response and yes I'm hoping getting back some of our fat boys on defense will help with holding the wall on Defense. Great points on how NE dictated how we had to beat them... interesting didn't realize they took away the safety net (Shultz) and made Dak beat them over the top. (Which he did)...

Was that Tampa game plan too? (We really won both)
 

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Not at all, Just communicating ... no right or wrong answers since we all just fans bruh (I think )Be easy... I actually think teams will imploy, as you implied, a bend but don't break def
Not really...most championship teams have good defenses and dictate their game thru that....we don't have that defense yet, but we are working towards it...our offense will have to carry us for now.
 

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Not really...most championship teams have good defenses and dictate their game thru that....we don't have that defense yet, but we are working towards it...our offense will have to carry us for now.
Good points... Especially good defenses dictate to the offense. So true! (NE, Tampa both did)
 

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I would absolutely load up to stop the run and I would blitz the Center and LG every pass play. The only real hope is that you can either push the pocket and disrupt the timing of the throw or draw some holding calls to help stop the drive. Dak is playing to good to not pressure him at all times. Yes he may beat you and give up so quick strikes but it's really the only chance a team has.
 

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The Boys offense is as good as it comes, very hard too defend it.
Only an off and weird day (NE), injuries is your chance. Yeah, turnovers
are included to those.

Attacking the Boys, for now, run up the middle, then play action;
the backers can be had.
throw deep opposite Trevon.

While we're at it, personal conduct could become an issue as we've just
experience. Lots of young and/or perhaps immature players could be a
detriment.

5-1 record suggests not an easy task.


So in your opinion a great offense beats a great defense? Or would you say a great defense dictates to a great offense... (just sparking a discussion)
 

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I would absolutely load up to stop the run and I would blitz the Center and LG every pass play. The only real hope is that you can either push the pocket and disrupt the timing of the throw or draw some holding calls to help stop the drive. Dak is playing to good to not pressure him at all times. Yes he may beat you and give up so quick strikes but it's really the only chance a team has.

I'm assuming you are referring to run blitzing here especially up the middle... ? If so, do you expect to see more screen passes in the flat to our rb tandem In Moore's play calling to counter the run blitz?
 

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What did we learn from the New England game and the 1st part of the season, regarding how teams will try to play the Cowboys offensively and defensively out of the bye. Belichick is a great coach so teams was paying attention.

Offensive: stop the run or pass? Make zek or dak beat you? (Tampa and NE approach was definitely make Dak beat you.)

Defensive: make Dallas stop the run or pass? Or will we get a balance offensive attack?

I think teams will force Dak to beat them on offense as Bill and Tampa did... but have no clue where teams will attack this defense. (Diggs, Lawrence and Gregory can impact here forcing teams to run if we have a good pass rush.)

Guess it depends on the opponent team's strengths

passing 400 plus yards and winning consistently is not easy, we need Gallup back , it will help. But Bellocheat did provide the blueprint , if the opposing team has a decent offense , and can go toe to toe , sell out to stop Run and trade TD after TD ( with cowboys doing some crucial self sabotage, untimely penalties ) will be a fair game.

But, as the NE offense was opportunistic but not a high caliber offense he couldn't pull it off .
 

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passing 400 plus yards and winning consistently is not easy, we need Gallup back , it will help. But Bellocheat did provide the blueprint , if the opposing team has a decent offense , and can go toe to toe , sell out to stop Run and trade TD after TD ( with cowboys doing some crucial self sabotage, untimely penalties ) will be a fair game.

But, as the NE offense was opportunistic but not a high caliber offense he couldn't pull it off .

I agree... one area of vulnerability that this team also have is age... young teams make bad decisions on the field, so MM better keep them coached up if teams gonna make us beat ourselves as you imply. Agree?
 

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if you prioritize running the run against us then you are in for a shootout,cowboys could have scored 50 against the Pats if they didnt shoot themselves in the foot.I say the best option is to keep 2 safeties back and see if we can do long drives over and over again.
 

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I say make Dak beat them. So many things that can go wrong with passing the ball over running the ball. Running the ball, the runner can fumble. That's pretty much it. Throwing the ball you can get sacked for a big loss, fumble on that sack or get your QB is knocked out of the game on that sack. The QB can throw an INT or a pick 6. The receiver can drop it or fumble it. So many more moving parts to a passing game, IMO. Plus it's obvious our O-line is a better run blocking team than a pass blocking team.
 

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I would probably try running right up the gut and scheme it to isolate the DE's, if I were an opposing offensive coordinator. Also some quick throws in the midfield(slants, short posts) and scheme it to remove the LB's or test their athletic ability to defend the pass. Those are areas I would find the "weakest" and plan my game plan according to that if I was an OC against our defense.

Who knows if that would work or not lol but this is what I would do. I did play OLB/DE for about 8 years of my life though.

After halftime adjustments, I would open it up(my playbook) and throw them off after they made their adjustments.

TLDR: I would attack the middle of the defense with runs and passes. I see that as our biggest 'weakness'.
 

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I think you need:
  • A DT that can overpower Biadasz/Williams.
  • A stout interior in general
  • A speed edge rusher on the left fast enough to cause Steele problems.
  • Good linebackers that can both fill their gaps and bracket Shultz
  • A solid secondary
  • Lots of pre-snap disguise
Cardinal’s, Buccs, and Bills are probably the three defenses best built to slow us down. I don’t think anybody can outright stop us, we have too many weapons.

In terms of game planning I think I would have a strategy similar to Saints 2018 where they disguised coverage pre-snap before making adjustments a few seconds before the snap.

The last few weeks I would have focused coverage on Ceedee Lamb and forced Cooper to be a possession receiver giving nothing over the top. Let’s see how those ribs hold up with 10+ targets.

On 3rd down I would not be letting Shultz beat me. On 1st down I would not be letting Zeke or Ceedee beat me.
 
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I say make Dak beat them. So many things that can go wrong with passing the ball over running the ball. Running the ball, the runner can fumble. That's pretty much it. Throwing the ball you can get sacked for a big loss, fumble on that sack or get your QB is knocked out of the game on that sack. The QB can throw an INT or a pick 6. The receiver can drop it or fumble it. So many more moving parts to a passing game, IMO. Plus it's obvious our O-line is a better run blocking team than a pass blocking team.
Agree the O-line like to push vs anchor
 
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