Do the refs really favor Packers/Steelers & scrutinize Cowboys?

MarcusRock

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Horrible people don't give a dang what public scrutiny has to say. That's what makes them horrible. There are leadrers of whole entire countries that are horrible.

So good people care. Horrible people don't. But if an employee likes his job then he'll do his best to keep that job. And NFL referees have a pretty nice job. So I do think that most of them are trying to do their best.

And some horrible people assume others are horrible people so they can feel justified in being horrible people. It's like human nature information day, lol.
 

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I don’t know how anyone can watch that Patriots game last week and say that game was being officiated the same way for both teams.

I also think we’re undefeated right now had it not been for officials in week 1 deciding a close game with crucial calls and no calls.

Levontae David spiking his helmet for a no call.

2 timely holding penalties at the end when we could’ve ran the clock out and kicked a FG to end it. (Dramatics / theatre)

Jourdan Lewis thrown to the floor.
And yet Lamb gets a 10k fine for waving at a player who just cheap shotted him after he crossed the goal line and could have injured him. No fine for Mills though.
 

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I don’t know how anyone can watch that Patriots game last week and say that game was being officiated the same way for both teams.

I also think we’re undefeated right now had it not been for officials in week 1 deciding a close game with crucial calls and no calls.

Levontae David spiking his helmet for a no call.

2 timely holding penalties at the end when we could’ve ran the clock out and kicked a FG to end it. (Dramatics / theatre)

Jourdan Lewis thrown to the floor.
While it’s indisputable that NFL officiating is awful all around, there is absolutely no way an rational person can disagree with your statement. Romo had like 3 roughing calls in his career. Brady and Rodgers get 3 every 4 games
 

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[URL='https://www.raidersbeat.com/12673-2/']Recent Data Analysis Offers Compelling Case to Suggest Officiating Bias (or Worse) by the NFL Against the Raiders
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There was also a 3rd down throw to Cobb resulting in a first down that CLEARLY hit the ground....never even saw a replay muck less a review.
Yup. I was actually going to post that too and forgot. Bounced right off the carpet and into Cobbs hands. I was LIVID!
 

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I don't believe there's a "conspiracy" that goes all the way to Goodel, but there IS a bias.

Refs are humans and therefore prone to mistakes and corruption. Apparently most NFL refs are from an area where the cowboys are hated. It makes sense they'd make some calls/non-calls that hurt the cowboys, even if they're doing it subconsciously.
That is my feeling also. They don't like the Cowboys so they see it in favor of the opponent
 

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I don't believe there's a "conspiracy" that goes all the way to Goodel, but there IS a bias.

Refs are humans and therefore prone to mistakes and corruption. Apparently most NFL refs are from an area where the cowboys are hated. It makes sense they'd make some calls/non-calls that hurt the cowboys, even if they're doing it subconsciously.

:lmao:
 

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Its not just the Cowboys, anyone team that plays the Packers or Steelers it seems in a tight game these 2 teams always seem to get the benefit of the doubt.
 

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Its not just the Cowboys, anyone team that plays the Packers or Steelers it seems in a tight game these 2 teams always seem to get the benefit of the doubt.

So which side were the refs on when the Packers played the Steelers in the Super Bowl?
 

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Lamb: 10.3 K fine for waving at a Patriot.

Aaron Rodgers:0.00 for yelling "I still own you" at the Bears and their fans.
Perfect example. I’d love to see what the league would say about this if anyone had the balls to ask.
 

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I live in Seattle. The only time I've heard about ref bias here was during the one Super Bowl when Seattle was clearly jobbed. Other than that, I never hear people say anything about reffing bias against the Seahawks.
There was only one game worse than the Seattle/ Pittsburgh Super Bowl....this one was the worst by miles

 

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I don't have any evidence of that, but there's plenty to suggest that the entire officiating system is broken.
I agree, their purpose was to facilitate and officiate the games but they've become the interruption.

What I want to know is what happened to the time limit initially imposed on reviews? The games are so jerky that if I didn't have the Red Zone, I would only watch Cowboys games.

I agree with all the posters about the level of competency but not the bias theory that they're trying to keep the Cowboys down. That makes no sense to me.

The ratings are better with the Cowboys in the playoffs and they wouldn't have a drop in ratings if they were in a SB. These owners are all about the money and they share in that as well as the playoff money.

I look for motive and purpose and I just do not see the payoff for the owners. Besides that, they review all of these games and the calls and the refs get graded and that's how they earn the playoffs.

Now, could there be individual refs that do not like the Cowboys and when the judgment calls are iffy and they can lean that direction, yes, I could see that because I've seen that in other sports,

The wild card is always the human factor. It is a 100B industry in the hands of these officials.
 

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There might really be some truth to the Packers being favored by the refs and/or the Cowboys being more scrutinized by the refs.

In another thread I speculated that McCarthy/Philbin are teaching the infamous holding technique associated with the Packers.

My question was "Are the refs calling holding on Cowboys players for using the same technique that was not penalized when Packers players used it?"

The fact that multiple NFL rules are directly attributed to specific Cowboys players supports this concept:

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Pushing-off by receivers by allowed until Irvin became know for it.

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Taunting. Irvin’s trash-talking spurred the NFL to ban taunting during a game.

Emmitt Smith:
The Rule: In 1997, the NFL passed a rule that prohibits a player from removing their helmet while on the field.

Deion Sanders
The Rule: A prorated portion of a player’s signing bonus would be used to count against the team’s salary cap.

Roy Williams
The Rule: In 2005, the NFL owners passed a ban on the horse-collar tackle 27-5.
Repeat offenders, like Williams, would suffer disciplinary action from the league.

Erik Williams:
The Rule: Hands to the Face (Neck): Erik Williams.

Mel Renfro:
The Rule: Tipped pass by offensive player.
Prior to this rule in 1978, a pass tipped by an offensive player could only be incomplete or intercepted.
If a ball was knocked in the air, only a defender was allowed to legally catch it.

The refs are biased against the Cowboys. I've watched enough games to see that the opponents get away with a whole lotta things that would otherwise be called against us. It's not just the Patriots games. But its also our previous games against Tampa and the Chargers.

They failed to call offensive pass interference against Tampa on that final drive.

That non-INT on Kearse is not a penalty. Its a good play.

The penalty on Kazee's personal foul in the Carolina game.

Bad spot of the ball against the Patriots and the Eagles. Both should have been TDs.



Links:
https://whodatdish.com/2014/04/09/considerable-rule-changes-players/4/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports...ges-inspired-by-cowboys-players/287-426219509

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-romo-deion-sanders-marion-barber-mel-renfro/
 

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There might really be some truth to the Packers being favored by the refs and/or the Cowboys being more scrutinized by the refs.

In another thread I speculated that McCarthy/Philbin are teaching the infamous holding technique associated with the Packers.

My question was "Are the refs calling holding on Cowboys players for using the same technique that was not penalized when Packers players used it?"

The fact that multiple NFL rules are directly attributed to specific Cowboys players supports this concept:

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Pushing-off by receivers by allowed until Irvin became know for it.

Mike Irvin:
The Rule: Taunting. Irvin’s trash-talking spurred the NFL to ban taunting during a game.

Emmitt Smith:
The Rule: In 1997, the NFL passed a rule that prohibits a player from removing their helmet while on the field.

Deion Sanders
The Rule: A prorated portion of a player’s signing bonus would be used to count against the team’s salary cap.

Roy Williams
The Rule: In 2005, the NFL owners passed a ban on the horse-collar tackle 27-5.
Repeat offenders, like Williams, would suffer disciplinary action from the league.

Erik Williams:
The Rule: Hands to the Face (Neck): Erik Williams.

Mel Renfro:
The Rule: Tipped pass by offensive player.
Prior to this rule in 1978, a pass tipped by an offensive player could only be incomplete or intercepted.
If a ball was knocked in the air, only a defender was allowed to legally catch it.

Links:
https://whodatdish.com/2014/04/09/considerable-rule-changes-players/4/

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports...ges-inspired-by-cowboys-players/287-426219509

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-romo-deion-sanders-marion-barber-mel-renfro/
I don’t think we get the benefit of the doubt like when Jimmy Johnson was on the sidelines. I think the coach has a lot to do with it. What do you bring to the referees attention before the game. Getting their heads
 

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I do think there is a phycology to getting ref calls that some coaches and QB's are better at, that manipulating this creates an unconscious bias in there favor. I don't think there is any conspiracy or intention to favor a particular team over others, it just happens because humans are flawed and find it difficult to be objectively neutral. IMO the biggest flaw in the system is that these ref teams are amateurs, they should be professionals whose full time job is to make the right call, and trained to manage their unconscious biases.
 

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Lamb: 10.3 K fine for waving at a Patriot.

Aaron Rodgers:0.00 for yelling "I still own you" at the Bears and their fans.
add in the wave was after a very late push to the ground and lamb jumped up and did the wave in retaliation and the game was officially over..

I mean i believe 4 of our players were fined for the last game LOL it was against the um Pats ..odd or
 
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