A harsh truth about Dak Prescott for some of you

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Here's a harsh truth about Dak Prescott:

If he ever has to miss a game for any reason... it's a big fat "L" for the Dallas Cowboys. Even the Jets or Jags would beat us like 17-3 if our QB is Pooper Flush. All ya gotta do is drop men in the box and play man coverage, shut down Zeke/Pollard and wait for Pooper Flush to throw INTs against man coverage
 

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The numbers don't really support your point. While our defense is better than last year, it was historically bad last year and could only improve. The defense is giving up a red zone TD 70% of the time and is ranked 23rd in the league, and 20th in points allowed per game. It's debatable whether that is good enough to win it all, and frankly, without Diggs' turnovers are we really sitting here at 5-1? If we keep getting those turnovers then maybe the defense is good enough, but can we really count on getting turnovers every week?

Dak is more than good enough to win. Playing incredibly well. I'd love to see the Red zone offense improve a bit more, we were ranked in the 20's a few weeks ago but now are tied for 9th. Hard to be too critical when we are 1st in scoring offense.

Point is when I say I'm worried about the defense and whether it is good enough for us to win the super bowl, it isn't code for "Dak isn't good enough". I'm actually worried about the defense, the chunk plays we continue to give up, and our red-zone defense. We need to start forcing more FGs because right now it seems more like turnover or TD when teams get into the red zone.


I haven’t seen it that way defensively.

The way I have seen it is Dallas takes their foot off the gas after they have not let teams hardly do anything and they start finally moving the ball after the damage is done.

Once our offense builds leads the defense tee’s off on QBs and good things start happening.

I mean when we needed a stop in New England in OT we stopped them and got the ball back and won the game.

I think they just play Quality 2021 defense. Nobody is pitching shutouts or perfect for 17 games on defense. The whole league sucks at defending. I like our defense a lot .
 

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Here's a harsh truth about Dak Prescott:

If he ever has to miss a game for any reason... it's a big fat "L" for the Dallas Cowboys. Even the Jets or Jags would beat us like 17-3 if our QB is Pooper Flush. All ya gotta do is drop men in the box and play man coverage, shut down Zeke/Pollard and wait for Pooper Flush to throw INTs against man coverage

Dallas has had nearly everything fall their way.

Winning a game with our backup QB wouldn’t surprise me.

This isn’t a concern though and just another reason to find doubt where there isn’t any.

The backup QB thing goes for every team. You think the Cardinals or Packers do anything without their QB?
 

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I only read the OP but threads like this are what makes Cowboys fans dislike Cowboy fans...
 

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Dallas has had nearly everything fall their way.

Winning a game with our backup QB wouldn’t surprise me.

This isn’t a concern though and just another reason to find doubt where there isn’t any.

The backup QB thing goes for every team. You think the Cardinals or Packers do anything without their QB?
Pooper Flush is the worst backup QB in the league.

With Dalton the team is still at a disadvantage but has a chance to hang in and maybe score an upset at the end like we did in Minnesota last year.

With Pooper Flush, the team has zero chance. Like the DiNucci Eagles game last year.
 

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I cant tell, does this guy love Dak or hate him or something in between, he is all over the place
 

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I haven’t seen it that way defensively.

The way I have seen it is Dallas takes their foot off the gas after they have not let teams hardly do anything and they start finally moving the ball after the damage is done.

Once our offense builds leads the defense tee’s off on QBs and good things start happening.

I mean when we needed a stop in New England in OT we stopped them and got the ball back and won the game.

I think they just play Quality 2021 defense. Nobody is pitching shutouts or perfect for 17 games on defense. The whole league sucks at defending. I like our defense a lot .

well, let’s hope we can keep taking the foot off the peddle. I do agree with your over arching point which is that we can’t judge defenses today against those of the past.
 

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I haven’t seen it that way defensively.

The way I have seen it is Dallas takes their foot off the gas after they have not let teams hardly do anything and they start finally moving the ball after the damage is done.

Once our offense builds leads the defense tee’s off on QBs and good things start happening.

I mean when we needed a stop in New England in OT we stopped them and got the ball back and won the game.

I think they just play Quality 2021 defense. Nobody is pitching shutouts or perfect for 17 games on defense. The whole league sucks at defending. I like our defense a lot .
I like your version of our defense more than mine. I hope yours is the reality.
 

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I’ll just never agree with anyone that views this defense as a weakness.

If it was 1995 then yeah sure but in 2021 we might as well be Doomsday.
Agree to disagree or you can send me some of that smoke.
They get passed on at will the only thing is they are hall hawks and they get turnovers if they hadn’t been doing that the record would be much different
 

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Agree to disagree or you can send me some of that smoke.
They get passed on at will the only thing is they are hall hawks and they get turnovers if they hadn’t been doing that the record would be much different

Yeah who doesn’t get passed on?

Dallas just put up 567 yards on New England and nothing about New Englands defense sucks.

Offenses are just miles better than defenses. That’s the reality of today’s NFL. They built it this way.
 

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Yeah who doesn’t get passed on?

Dallas just put up 567 yards on New England and nothing about New Englands defense sucks.

Offenses are just miles better than defenses. That’s the reality of today’s NFL. They built it this way.
Dallas had an incredible offense that can score on anyone and lots on some it’s the defense that is worrisome

you can tell me with a straight face when the game is on the line and they need a stop you feel comfortable I know I don’t
 

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Dallas had an incredible offense that can score on anyone and lots on some it’s the defense that is worrisome

you can tell me with a straight face when the game is on the line and they need a stop you feel comfortable I know I don’t

Tell me with a straight face who has this kind of defense you speak of?
 

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If you don't think a few quarterbacks could play just as well as Dak with this offense I don't know what to tell you besides laugh.
If you saw what I bolded from your statement you’d understand my comment. Take is really good at taking care of the ball. Like really good. So your “QBs could do better turnover wise” comment is laughable. Daks thrown 4 picks this year and lost 3 fumbles. Lol. You make it seem like he’s on a 6 game INT streak like mahomes
 

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Tell me with a straight face who has this kind of defense you speak of?
I know if I had buffalos or Cleveland or even AZ maybe even Carolina defense I’d feel better when the chips are in the table and need a stop

that don’t mean they always do but their defense is better than ours

As it stands right now the offense needs to put 25 on the board

I do think the defense will improve with the return of a few players and more experience from the younger guys
 

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We're going to kill the Rams if we play them in the playoffs. They should start trying to avoid us.
 

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I know if I had buffalos or Cleveland or even AZ maybe even Carolina defense I’d feel better when the chips are in the table and need a stop

that don’t mean they always do but their defense is better than ours

As it stands right now the offense needs to put 25 on the board

I do think the defense will improve with the return of a few players and more experience from the younger guys


I like what ours did in OT against the Pats.
 
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