Early thoughts about big game against Chiefs

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I don’t expect to win this game.

Are we capable of winning? Of course but this is not a game that’s going to be easy at all.

Chiefs are playing good football again too of course and Dallas is going to get their best effort of the season.


Beating Mahomes at Arrowhead would be unbelievable but I think we lose a nail biter.
 

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- RB Clyde-Edwards is gonna be a 1st rd bust .. Average RB. there is nuthin bout his game he does that stands out .he’s not a breakaway, not top elusive, not a factor in goal line, not special receiving skills. and they simply don’t lose anything different in backup Williams.

- Chiefs still have OL issues- I constantly see Orlando Brown getting his azz handed to him, far better a RT than LT, imo.
and it’s still too many instances where Mahomes is running for his life too often because of the OTs. .they do have a promising rookie center.

- Because of the defensive issues (why DC Spagnola units always take major steps back everywhere he’s been) and OL issues, Mahomes presses to catch up
and the better teams are scheming to keep all plays in front of them, scheme to take/minimize Tyrek Hill and let the Robinson, Hardman, Pringle guys beat you

-This is where we need zeke-pollard run attack, wear KC down and also keep touches away from Mahomes - while we finished TD scoring drives ourselves.
Chiefs cannot contain our WRs, .their best hope is to disrupt Dak at the OL – but if we can run the ball, that's a dual threat Chiefs have to tend to. - we really need far more splash runs in run game.

- We are not/will be taking in FGs, - u don’t beat a high power offense with 3 point FGs, …expect MM to force several 4th down ..
- And where is safety Juan Thornhill? …who Cowboys fans utterly ripped Cowboys for bypassing for sake of DT Trysten Hill …?? ..Thornhill is still a backup with Chiefs.

- We can get big plays and drive on Chief D” .everybody does nowadays .. .just cannot commit turnovers & have killer penalties- offense or defense.

- DT Chris Jones and Tyranny Mathieu are their cornerstones. I’ll chance Martin vs Chis Jones, but Jones vs Tyler and Conner Williams … yikes !!
Tyranny would’ve been a helluva FA addition at FS, but we were so hell bent on the troubled minded Earl Thomas at that time. And Stephen would’ve low balled Tyranny anyway.
Once a notorious weed-addict during his days at LSU, he’s been a model citizen since he’s entered the NFL.

o_O

Chiefs have never been that great of a team.

Mahomes & Andy Reid are just lethal together.

When your QB can extend every play for 2 or 3 seconds longer it’s difficult to stop.

This is the week we will really miss Randy Gregory.
 

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Mile Austin smiling on his way for a walk-off TD against the Chiefs is a good memory. Looking forward to this game and Dallas leaving with a win.

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Chiefs have never been that great of a team.

Mahomes & Andy Reid are just lethal together.

When your QB can extend every play for 2 or 3 seconds longer it’s difficult to stop.

This is the week we will really miss Randy Gregory.

They are more than just Reid and Mahome, imo .

There is not another WR in NFL that is close to Tyrek Hill's combination of both pure raw jet speed and adept open field run skills game.

TE Travis Kelce is a sure fire HOF. Always so very difficult to cover - and who will draw that assignment for us vs Kelce ? Kearse ?.. LVE ?
 

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I don’t expect to win this game.

Are we capable of winning? Of course but this is not a game that’s going to be easy at all.

Chiefs are playing good football again too of course and Dallas is going to get their best effort of the season.


Beating Mahomes at Arrowhead would be unbelievable but I think we lose a nail biter.
this is going to be a high scoring game and one of those that the last team with the ball has a chance to pull it off
 

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- RB Clyde-Edwards is gonna be a 1st rd bust .. Average RB. there is nuthin bout his game he does that stands out .he’s not a breakaway, not top elusive, not a factor in goal line, not special receiving skills. and they simply don’t lose anything different in backup Williams.

- Chiefs still have OL issues- I constantly see Orlando Brown getting his azz handed to him, far better a RT than LT, imo.
and it’s still too many instances where Mahomes is running for his life too often because of the OTs. .they do have a promising rookie center.

- Because of the defensive issues (why DC Spagnola units always take major steps back everywhere he’s been) and OL issues, Mahomes presses to catch up
and the better teams are scheming to keep all plays in front of them, scheme to take/minimize Tyrek Hill and let the Robinson, Hardman, Pringle guys beat you

-This is where we need zeke-pollard run attack, wear KC down and also keep touches away from Mahomes - while we finished TD scoring drives ourselves.
Chiefs cannot contain our WRs, .their best hope is to disrupt Dak at the OL – but if we can run the ball, that's a dual threat Chiefs have to tend to. - we really need far more splash runs in run game.

- We are not/will be taking in FGs, - u don’t beat a high power offense with 3 point FGs, …expect MM to force several 4th down ..
- And where is safety Juan Thornhill? …who Cowboys fans utterly ripped Cowboys for bypassing for sake of DT Trysten Hill …?? ..Thornhill is still a backup with Chiefs.

- We can get big plays and drive on Chief D” .everybody does nowadays .. .just cannot commit turnovers & have killer penalties- offense or defense.

- DT Chris Jones and Tyranny Mathieu are their cornerstones. I’ll chance Martin vs Chis Jones, but Jones vs Tyler and Conner Williams … yikes !!
Tyranny would’ve been a helluva FA addition at FS, but we were so hell bent on the troubled minded Earl Thomas at that time. And Stephen would’ve low balled Tyranny anyway.
Once a notorious weed-addict during his days at LSU, he’s been a model citizen since he’s entered the NFL.

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I'll add we're going to need top play a real clean game. Cannot stall drives with penalties.
 

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They are more than just Reid and Mahome, imo .

There is not another WR in NFL that is close to Tyrek Hill's combination of both pure raw jet speed and adept open field run skills game.

TE Travis Kelce is a sure fire HOF. Always so very difficult to cover - and who will draw that assignment for us vs Kelce ? Kearse ?.. LVE ?

Yeah they have those 2 guys but the nuts and bolts have never been there.

They’ve operated at the highest level with a poor foundation. Mahomes is just that great.
 

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It is important to note that the Chiefs have a better road record than home record the past 2 1/2 seasons. They have 10 total regular season losses since the beginning of 2019 and 7 of those were at home. Arrowhead is a fun environment, but it's hardly been a home-field advantage.
 

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I'll add we're going to need top play a real clean game. Cannot stall drives with penalties.

- Not just killer penalties ... but cannot have killer offensive turnovers. No fumbles or tipped passes, or Dak INTs in our territory.
Don't give Chiefs a short field en route to an easy TD.

-Like the teams that beat Chiefs - force Chiefs to drive and move ball with underneath plays.
They tend to get impatient and greedy and push- force chunk plays downfield.
That has resulted in turnovers this year with Mahomes.

- But my concern is we do surrender big chunk yards on defense, and Mahomes will challenge Diggs and Brown deep.
We'll mix press man with zone coverages, and the way KC shifts and moves around players, scheme and create openings
and busted coverage for wide open and broken plays.
 

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Yeah they have those 2 guys but the nuts and bolts have never been there.

They’ve operated at the highest level with a poor foundation. Mahomes is just that great.

what poor foundation are you talking about ?
what nuts and bolts have never been there ?
what are u talkin' bout ..? :huh:
 

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It is important to note that the Chiefs have a better road record than home record the past 2 1/2 seasons. They have 10 total regular season losses since the beginning of 2019 and 7 of those were at home. Arrowhead is a fun environment, but it's hardly been a home-field advantage.

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Yeah they have those 2 guys but the nuts and bolts have never been there.

They’ve operated at the highest level with a poor foundation. Mahomes is just that great.


Again I dont get the "God" like assertion....he is like other good QB's when his O-line sucks he doesn't look great and when his Defense sucks he loses games..There are probably 8 QB's in the league that could win with the SB team he had.....just like every other SB winning QB not named Brady...Brady know the exact pressure a ball needs to be at so a defender can not catch but his WR can, that is next level QB knowledge.
 

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what poor foundation are you talking about ?
what nuts and bolts have never been there ?
what are u talkin' bout ..? :huh:

Poor defense that benefits from a offense that scores a lot of points.

Average at best OL that benefits from a QB who extends plays like it’s nothing.

No real threat of the run.

Just not a very good team really.

Mahomes and Andy Reid are just that great.
 

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Pressuring Mahomes is key. Different player when not allowed to sit and pick you apart.

We will miss Gregory this week but I'm hoping Armstrong can build on last week and they aren't shy about rushing Parsons.
 

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I want to see a shootout. The best of both teams, head to head. Beating that KC team will send a much better message to the league that the Cowboys are a serious Super Bowl contender.
 

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Poor defense that benefits from a offense that scores a lot of points.

Average at best OL that benefits from a QB who extends plays like it’s nothing.

No real threat of the run.

Just not a very good team really.

Mahomes and Andy Reid are just that great.


When they won a SB they had a good run game a good defense and o-line....when the RB and o-line got hurt in the playoffs they lost the SB and this year with missing pieces..I doubt they make it, again just like every other QB he needs help.....he does not have some other world QB talent that he will "lift" a mediocre team to a championship....just like he didnt "lift" Texas Tech to one....
 

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When they won a SB they had a good run game a good defense and o-line....when the RB and o-line got hurt in the playoffs they lost the SB and this year with missing pieces..I doubt they make it, again just like every other QB he needs help.....he does not have some other world QB talent that he will "lift" a mediocre team to a championship....just like he didnt "lift" Texas Tech to one....

They lost the Super Bowl because Tampa figured out a defense that every team in the league now runs against them.

They have been virtually unstoppable since Mahomes stepped on the field for them.
 

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They lost the Super Bowl because Tampa figured out a defense that every team in the league now runs against them.

They have been virtually unstoppable since Mahomes stepped on the field for them.


They lost a SB because their O-line was shredded with injury...come on Catch, you going to tell me he throws the ball in a way that NO OTHER QB can..like I said I watched him in college, Tech fans used to have meltdowns because of his "trick shots" as they would go the other way alot. It worked when they HAD A COMPLETE TEAM earlier this season people saw what he does when thats not the case...those back across the field throws dont look good when they getting picked at high rates. The "side arm special" looks bad when a LB picks it..
 

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-Chiefs offense hasn't been the same this season, however they just came off their best offensive performance since the first month of the season. Now they are getting back Clyde-Edwards back and feel they are ready to go on a run. Probably the toughest test this defense has faced since Tampa opening night. Good challenge as we are going to have to face elite offenses down the road in the postseason. Noticed when you take away their big plays abilities, they get frustrated and take chances. Travis Kelce is Mahomes security blanket when he needs to make a play.

-Their defense was god awful for the majority of the year, but the last few weeks they started to get healthy and has be noticeably better. Their DC who was with the Giants during their Super Bowl runs, comes from the Jim Johnson Coaching Tree, point is, they are going to blitz a lot, do they have the secondary to hold up against our receivers?

-Arrowhead is one of the hardest places to travel. Excellent opportunity to prepare this team for future road postseason games in hostile environments. Win here, against a quality opponent, they will have the confidence to travel anywhere, even Green Bay if needed down the line.
Prescott, he has won in Lambo , New England, he has no issue winning in Kansas City either. We actually play better on the road
 
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