***Mega Merge Dak is not a elite QB thread***

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irving said:
How did Mahomes look in the Super Bowl when his offensive line got dominated? It’s very simplistic to point to the quarterback, when every coach in the world knows it starts and ends with offensive and defensive line play.
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You don't judge a player , any player, on one game. You look at the totality of their career. Dak isn't in the same league as Mahomes. Pointing to a bad game as some kind of tangible proof the QB doesn't matter is laughable.
 
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He is not elite, I agree but.....

Pat Mahomes didn't look elite in last year's super bowl when he was harassed on every play. It's why we've all been screaming for upgrades to the pass rush.
 
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phildadon86 said:
Everyone is simply going to ignore the fact that Mahomes didnt score a TD either yesterday? lol
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I wouldn't be mad if Prescott laid an egg and was just simply awful by himself and we lost. But when the entire team not named Parsons just is mediocre, well that's not reasonable. Some of those drops were crucial. The O line was terrible. Play calling was suspect. WRs & TEs completely missing key blocks. WAY too much pressure. I could go on and on. This team played uninspired football.
 
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jwooten15 said:
He’s good when the team is stable and good around him. But put the full weight of success on his shoulders; and wheels start falling off
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Yep..

I really wanted to see him elevate his game but Dak is starting to just turn back into a product of whatever is around him.

He looked different this year and now he’s starting to look like classic Dak Prescott which is just a slightly above average player that goes as the players around him go.

This sucks.
 

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88sAndHeartbreak said:
Why would anyone answer this? No matter how factually/statistically backed, calculated, or proven the answer would be. You or people like you will denounce it and continue with your "Dak sucks"/"Dak's average" rhetoric.
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I have never once said Dak sucks.
Because to answer it honestly is a factual evaluation of 6 years of evidence concerning the player.
 
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sorry this is not just a reaction to this game i have said it from a long time ago and i think my reason is correct so please respond to my reason and not just the title.

i believe a franchise qb have to be able to elevate the play of every one around him and dak does not do that at all. he is 100% relyant on every thing around him being perfect and all of the odd stacked in his favor.

here is the newsflash and scary thing. it will not get any better. it will get worse and harder now that dak will eat a huge chunk of cap. dak will have to be the one to do the heavy lifting and he have shown ZERO ability to do that.

that is my point and worry with dak....am i wrong? a franchise qb HAVE to be able to elevate every one around him and dak is the opposite.
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I’ve been saying this since he was drafted. Seems to be a great kid, above average QB, capable starter, his knock has been the same since college. He just can’t win the big games. That first throw to Gallup yesterday was all I needed to see. I told my boy sitting next me it was going to be a long day. Hey if I’m wrong and he brings a SB back to where it belongs I will be first in line saying I was wrong. I quit voicing my opinion because I’m tired of being called a Dak hater just because I don’t think the kid is elite. Can’t blame the defense yesterday and I don’t care about Coop and Lamb. Injuries are apart of the game and the great ones overcome it. Rodgers without Adams and Lazard just a few weeks ago found a way. I’m pretty sure there aren’t many on here who would say Gallup and Wilson aren’t better than what Rodgers was dealing with that day. Anyway Parsons is a beast and is a joy to watch every week.
 
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Well, he is, so there is that. He is Dallas' Franchise QB whether you like it or not. I mean, hell, it's not like he is Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf.
 
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I’ve been saying this since he was drafted. Seems to be a great kid, above average QB, capable starter, his knock has been the same since college. He just can’t win the big games. That first throw to Gallup yesterday was all I needed to see. I told my boy sitting next me it was going to be a long day. Hey if I’m wrong and he brings a SB back to where it belongs I will be first in line saying I was wrong. I quit voicing my opinion because I’m tired of being called a Dak hater just because I don’t think the kid is elite. Can’t blame the defense yesterday and I don’t care about Coop and Lamb. Injuries are apart of the game and the great ones overcome it. Rodgers without Adams and Lazard just a few weeks ago found a way. I’m pretty sure there aren’t many on here who would say Gallup and Wilson aren’t better than what Rodgers was dealing with that day. Anyway Parsons is a beast and is a joy to watch every week.
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Very well said. I think a lot of people here just struggle hearing any criticism of players. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

It doesn’t make us “haters” when we point out and give reasons that Dak is not elite.

Do I WISH Dak was capable of shouldering that responsibility and leading a hobbled team to victory (like true elite QBs do/have)?? Of course. But Dak has yet again proven that he’s not that type of player.
 
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jwooten15 said:
Very well said. I think a lot of people here just struggle hearing any criticism of players. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

It doesn’t make us “haters” when we point out and give reasons that Dak is not elite.

Do I WISH Dak was capable of shouldering that responsibility and leading a hobbled team to victory (like true elite QBs do/have)?? Of course. But Dak has yet again proven that he’s not that type of player.
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Agree 100% I would want nothing more to be first in line saying I was wrong in Daks case. I just don’t see it and all I see is a kid who is not capable of performing in big games.
 
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jwooten15 said:
He’s good when the team is stable and good around him. But put the full weight of success on his shoulders; and wheels start falling off
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You don't want a franchise QB. You want Godzilla.

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that mean old win nothing jimmy johnson, "I like Dak,'' said Johnson, speaking to Colin Cowherd on FSI. "I think he can win you a championship if he has great players around him. I don't think Dak can carry a football team if he doesn't have great players around him." that hater.. he better get on the cam newton prescott bandwagon.
 
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No, that’s absolutely wrong. Romo wasn’t even involved in game planning meetings until he was able to force it via the contract, thus the “Peyton-like” responsibilities Jerry made in the off-season.

That’s the very reason power started to be taken away from Garrett.

2014 was the first actual season Romo had power stripped from Garrett, and he was literally MVP.

I didn’t say Garrett didn’t have any responsibility, I’m saying Dak-stans are trying to leverage the actual real legitimate reasons why Romo’s career was wasted for their own average QB, that never existed.

The very fact this offense was adjusted for Dak’s skill set and teams didn’t figure it out until 2017, when they started doubling Beasley and dropping defenders in his routes, is proof enough this wasn’t Garrett’s offense. Other factors included play-action usage and the complete elimination of the traditional 5-7 drop back that Dak can’t do.
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I got news for you. Any OC that knows what he's doing will adjust their offense for different QBs with different skill set. That's nothing new. The Raven's OC adjusted their offense for Jackson in his rookie year when he came in for Flacco. I guess you think Lamar is worse than Flacco. LOL.
 
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atlantacowboy said:
He's a franchise QB. He is not a big game QB and there is a difference. Those guys are rare. I've been preaching for years that you win with Dak by building a dominant defensive unit. He can do what Trent Dilfer and Joe Flacco did.
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You hold the chiefs to 19 and that doesn't bode well for the scenario
 
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Streetwise said:
Regardless of what some people on the internet think, he very much is a franchise QB. To suggest otherwise is silly.
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The denial stage is strong with yo right now, as with a few others here.

At least you're on the path to acceptance. That commendable at least.
 
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