Is Dak worth his contract?

Risen Star said:

You know he's a fraud when his supporters try to deflect blame to others.

When you sign that deal you become the man. You're being paid to carry the team. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be paid like you can.

I think any reasonable viewer can see Dak Prescott can't do that.

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Vtwin said:

Maybe you should go back and read the thread before you continue to ask yet more dumb questions.

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I read the thread, and they're dumb questions. Dak doesn't need to be yelling at people on the sidelines to be a real "leader." It's evident in how his teammates and coaches and peers talk about him that they love and respect him as a leader of the football team. Any specifics on how that "manifests" itself beyond that are questions that someone can't logically answer unless they're around the team on a daily basis.

Slick said:

Dak is worth no more than $25-$28M. I said that long ago. We don't have a top flight defense and no team has won a SB without that.

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There is no quarterback worth that amount of money. You're either worth way less or way more.

CowboyRoy said:

On the contrary I do understand the ramification as guys like Zeke should have never been resigned.

Its not my fault that you arent smart enough to understand the current market from great young QBs like Dak. Heck, you arent even smart enough to know how great Dak is.

You were the guy that originally called Dak backup material. Then it went to bus driver, average QB, slightly above average, ect....ect.....

You arent even smart enough to know a great QB when you see one.

Lets just look at the current facts. You are on here cutting up Dak after he just went for 375 yards, 2 TD's, 0 picks and a 106 QB rating. LOL

And that was with Cooper and Lamb gone. I guess he doesnt need all pro's at every position now does he? Another dumb comment debunked.

You dont even have enough football knowledge to hang in a conversation with me. Laughable actually.

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You just said it. No more needs to be said. That's what got him his contract... Not his so called "elite" status that doesn't even exist... He's a great quarterback. I'm not saying (nor have I ever said) he's not. Even he has said himself, he's a student of the game constantly learning and trying to get better everyday and I highly respect that. But unfortunately some fans like to give him a status that he doesn't deserve.

Nav22 said:

We got to OT because Dak was clutch in the 4th.

Yes, that was a terrible throw in OT.

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It's okay to be both. But you're 4th qtr is what we expect dak to be. The ot....is not.


It's kind of a big deal. "Clutch". People aren't clutch in the 1st half. Clutch is when it matters most.

Slick said:

Maybe if Dak got pissed off and starting working up the team on the sidelines that would help? His lost stare into space and dumbfounded looks when they're getting beat doesn't look like leadership to me.

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I don't think it's necessarily a big deal. But it is irritating.

TwentyOne said:

He has signed a 4 year contract which essentially is a 3 year deal. Which btw its the length he was opting for, not us.

-> 2024 is the first real chance to cut/trade him. It would take us $28,900,000 of dead cap space to do so.

But as i said, we wanted him longer here before that contract and i dont think that will change if he stays the average guy he is. The FO is convinced he is the man.

So i think he will be here for the rest of his career. Get used to it.

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OUCH. But thanks for the info.

Mac Jones would have solved a lot of problems.

rocyaice said:

I literally answered you the FIRST AND SECOND time you asked that lol...nobody is avoiding you.....but I'll answer you again just in case you don't see post #151 where I answered this....

How does his leadership manifest itself? They're 7-4. He has one losing season on his resume and he got hurt that year.

Now that I've answered your question answer mine....did Aikman and Irvin suck as leaders?

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Post 151?

Irvin was a good leader yes.
And yes Dak's leadership is a big part in why we are leading the NFC East.
In regards to your stances on his leadership sorry I can't keep up with every single post on this site or even remember how everyone views Dak or his leadership.

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lol

You consider that an answer? Because the team is 7-4 (1-3 in the last four) the QB is a leader?

So I guess Carson Wentz is an exceptional leader too? 6-5 (6-2 in the last 8)

Tannehill must be the best leader of the bunch by those exacting standards.

Lets not forget Murray.

Now I have more questions though.
Was Romo a leader in 2007? 2014?
Was Dak a leader in 2017? 2019?

That's not an answer bud. You know that. We both know why that's the best you can do though.

BoyzBlaster said:

OUCH. But thanks for the info.

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You're welcome .

Hardline said:

Mac Jones would have solved a lot of problems.

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Man can you imagine actual optimism about the future?

DOUBLE WING said:

I read the thread, and they're dumb questions. Dak doesn't need to be yelling at people on the sidelines to be a real "leader." It's evident in how his teammates and coaches and peers talk about him that they love and respect him as a leader of the football team. Any specifics on how that "manifests" itself beyond that are questions that someone can't logically answer unless they're around the team on a daily basis.

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By "manifesting itself" I meant how are the results showing themselves.

Well lead teams/organizations/groups, stand out from the poorly lead.

It's often easy to see the differences.

Cowboy Lover said:

It's okay to be both. But you're 4th qtr is what we expect dak to be. The ot....is not.


It's kind of a big deal. "Clutch". People aren't clutch in the 1st half. Clutch is when it matters most.

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If you think playing tremendous football is just “expected” then that’s on you. There isn’t a QB in the league who consistently plays that well.

Dak was tremendous in the 4th and awful on the 1 throw in OT. It happens. Let’s see what happens when he gets his weapons back and isn’t throwing to Noah Brown.

CowboyRoy said:

LOL...........and looked ridiculous doing it.

375 yards, 2 TD's, 0 picks, 106 QBR and another TD called back for penalty.

With Cooper and Lamb out.

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and couldn’t get it done when it counted most to an open receiver

Vtwin said:

By "manifesting itself" I meant how are the results showing themselves.

Well lead teams/organizations/groups, stand out from the poorly lead.

It's often easy to see the differences.

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I don't see how you can make any substantive correlation between the end result of a game and good/bad leadership. There's no official barometer for what makes a player a good leader.

Tom Brady lost two Super Bowl's, that doesn't mean he was any less of a leader in those two losses than he was in the seven that he won. There's 21 other players on the field besides the QB on any given play, and dozens of coaches on the sideline that all play a part in the end result on the field. There's a lot more that goes into an end result than whether or not the guy under center is a "good leader."

Risen Star said:

You know he's a fraud when his supporters try to deflect blame to others.

When you sign that deal you become the man. You're being paid to carry the team. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be paid like you can.

I think any reasonable viewer can see Dak Prescott can't do that.

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Fans seem to think the contract determines what you should be able to do. Especially with QB’s, that’s not at all true, except in a fan’s mind. Dak will never be Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Patrick Mahommes. Even if he could play his best every single game, he would never be those guys. But QBs are paid what the market demands. Even starting QBs below DAK’s ability would never sign for 28 million when their contracts are up.

If you wanted to let Dak walk and have no other option than to sign a guy like Fitzpatrick, that was the only option other than to pay him franchise QB money. Dak is above average and sometimes plays at an elite level, but he will never be elite in the Rodgers tier. You still had to pay him. By next year his contract will seem reasonable. In two years, there will be several QBs who have won nothing making more. That’s simply how it works.

It’s fair to pick at Dak’s game when he plays poorly, but his salary is irrelevant. The Cowboys paid him because he had an agent who knew his market value and because they didn’t want to play with the Daltons and Fitzpatrick type guys while waiting for a chance to stumble into another QB who gives them a chance.

DMX690 said:

At the end of the day it's still a lost, if you want to win 4 games in a row come Jan/Feb you need to overcome a lot adversity. This team has one major problem and that's not bad refs. It's the run defense and awful linebacker play. I don't think they can fix that issue until the off seasons, and that's going to be the downfall of this team this season.

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Easy solution actually. Lawrence is one of the best run defenders in the league and Randy is no slouch either. Urban has been out and he is one of the better run defenders in the league. Gally was a monster by the end of last season and if he's 75% of that we will be in good shape. All that said, with Lawrence and Randy set to come back we have a pair of really good bookends in place. Move Micah back to MLB and rush him in passing downs. Problem solved, no?

The solution is to get and stay healthy.

BermyStar said:

OP, while I vehemently disagree with your take. I have no negative words as it concerns your post. You are entitled to your opinion and it's a fair one. Problem is everyone wants Aaron Rodgers, Brady or another one of the top 3-4 QBs. There aren't many of them in the league, nor is there a guaranteed one every draft. Dak was the best QB in his draft for example.

There are maybe 25 or more teams that would entertain a straight up QB swap for Dak...yes he's that good; take a look around.

To your question though, I am no cap guru, sorry.

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No just no, both Goff and Wince are more talented than Dak. There a reason Dak is a 4th round draft pick and the others are #1 and #2 respectively. Goff just need to fix his "fear" and Wince need to stop playing "hero ball". Meanwhile Dak has nothing to fix because he already at his ceiling, and that a below average to average starting QB. Hell Goff did better than Dak yesterday and his stupid coach cost him the win. Dak can't even beat the Broncos despite having a stack team, just like he couldn't defeat Wince and the Eagles with no receivers two or three years ago.

CowboyRoy said:

LOL...........and looked ridiculous doing it.

375 yards, 2 TD's, 0 picks, 106 QBR and another TD called back for penalty.

With Cooper and Lamb out.

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Shut up about Cooper and Lamb crap. Other QB don't have more than 1 good receiver meanwhile the Cowboys and Bucs have the best WR cores, so even if two are injure, it would be on par with other QBs. Rodgers only has Adams.

CowboyRoy said:

I represent the educated fan base. Definitely dont represent the uninformed, thin skinned little cry babies that haunt this forum daily.

Im just trying to educate you. Stay golden Pony Boy!

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